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  1. The social models, role models, systems of organizations, have little changed. How Yelm was understood by the Emperor and great magicians (rather than heroes) resulted in the foundation of shrines and priesthoods. Others were given up. They are not Dara Happan nobles but they obey the Solar order, which was not suppressed by the Red Goddess. Their heresies did not survive the destruction they caused of the old Dara Happan Empire. But the Yelmites could also have all converted to carmanism. It describes the Empire quite well, although it no longer works exactly the same. It challenges the Orlanthi point of view that it is stagnant, but they do not tend to form stable governments with strong central power.
  2. I was in fact serious because Dara Happa is based on Yelm's cult who is a very important deity, who "makes" the Rich Land (and many or all other lands). It is essential to the conservatism of Solar cultures that Yelm is extremely reliable.
  3. The changing forms of rule reflect temporal failures of the aristocratic Solar religion to stand up to external conditions. Although pretensions to empire are vainglorious under the Lunar Empire, the language and cults of old Dara Happa have endured perhaps because they dominate by divine order most of the population and land powers. Catastrophic events may disturb the stars and Yelm's mundane states may be shaken (I think this is true of other Sun-worshipping cultures too), but the general order is mostly stable. Empire as such is always Yelmic at the root.
  4. It sounds really good. Impressive. I agree some names should not appear here for those lineages certainly did not stay in Dara Happa proper, unless they have intermarried among nobles in the more recent and peaceful centuries too.
  5. I didn't remember... "Miscellaenous Observations on Odd Runes" mentions the god Khor. I think divine names can be used as prefixes too. There is one named Elmatryan. And Bisoshan, referring to Bisos the Bull god from Carmania.
  6. Couldn't Dara Happan and Pelorian languages form names based on divine names such as Lodrilius, Dendarius or Yelmia, with the divine names expanded by a suffix?
  7. Then maybe Dara Happan uses case-endings that can be dropped in some words and in other similar languages. I'm not really a language expert.
  8. Concerning Temples of Uleria dedicated to prostitution, I think most cities in Glorantha, including the smallest ones such as New Pavis, have at least a whore's street. Temples are independent, or form some sort of guild, and must sponsored by nobles.
  9. JagaNatha might as well embrace rape as punish it, IMO.
  10. For Dara Happan names, names can be used with a -us, -a or other Latin termination, etc. Other forms can be derived from Greek in the same way but it is not found in the Gloranthan sources. For Lunar names the forms are whatever. Everyone in the Empire can become a Lunar.
  11. I understand that Humakti would not target people who return from the Underworld as much as they target people who resurrect. I didn't think it could be a problem, I just thought powerful heroquesters would usually be taken seriously. But in a general context, Humakt defends the sacred status of death both as his own territory and as a member of the Orlanthi pantheon.
  12. If the Humakti don't have the problem with sacrilege resurrection, they still have to deal with competing heroquesters. I don't know what happens in the Sword Bridge quest, so I could not comment on this. My point is mostly about the scale of power involved, even if only followers of other war gods are taken as serious rivals. Humakti who have never heroquested and meet real heroquesters who follow rival war gods have problems. :-)
  13. People who go to Hell with all of their soul and body and return are very powerful people who have walked heroquest paths of special kinds, in fact Heroes. I didn't mean people who were killed by Humakti but people who went to the Underworld willfully. If I can make myself clearer, I mean to say that it is highly unusual to meet them and just call them sinners and try to kill them (although it is often what most people would like to do). They are very dangerous, may have a large band of followers, and when they are not blessed by the gods, they are able to withstand divine rules. Very few such individuals are known in Glorantha: Sheng Seleris, Ethilrist, the Red Emperor, are the ones I can remember.
  14. I think most Humakti cults would have serious problems if they met them and had to kill them again.
  15. I think it cannot be dogmatically forbidden in all instances, but things involving Chaos may be forbidden. Usually no Lunar would ever think of embracing Chaos as such, they usually follow the Lunar way, not a path of corruption and destruction.