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  2. So....

    These threads are just us lot saying "can I get it yet? Can I get it yet? Can I get it yet?" So it's a positive thing really. You guys keep your own pace and don't feel rushed by our impatience and eagerness to get our grubby hooves on the treasure.
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  4. So....

    We managed to get some books out WAY ahead of schedule, and other books have taken WAY longer than we could possibly expect (sometimes for really weird reasons). Usually our estimates are pretty reasonable given the assumptions at play. But if those assumptions change (and they often do), then so does the schedule.
  5. So....

    Sorry Jeff, I was just trying to help out some of the previous posters who thought they remembered something about one a month. I was pointing out here that that wasn't correct, it was one every other month. But I realise that it's difficult to predict how long books take to produce. I do know that when the books come they're going to be very high quality, and I'd rather that than have a disappointing product. But having said that, I do think that some of the announcements have been a little over-excited (I can't blame anyone for getting too excited about a new Chaosium version of RQ though!) and unrealistic in terms of timescales (deliberately not mentioning a prime example ...). Without wanting to sound patronising (but I realise it might sound like that), I'd suggest that these threads are a sign of just how excited fans are about the plans that you've announced, and a good thing even if it's a bit annoying to you busy guys sometimes. My money is still ready and waiting though, for when the products do appear. I can't wait.
  6. So....

    Our plan is still to release the core rules, bestiary, and GM scenario pack before GenCon, and then keep rolling out books every other month or so. But honestly, this is now a silly thread and the sort of thing that makes me question whether we should ever make any announcements on when we expect books to be ready until the book is about to go to the printers. We tell you all our plans based on our own expectations, but we always have to adapt to changing circumstances. Writers might be slow or require more editing, feedback might enable more substantive editing than originally expected, artists might be slower, layout might hit a bottle-neck, and then there is the great black box of printing. If everything works as expected, we know how long it takes to make a book. That being said, things rarely go as expected.
  7. So....

    One RQ product every two months, following the initial release, was the previously-announced plan, as per https://www.chaosium.com/blog/rqgnew-runequest-edition-to-be-known-as-runequest-roleplaying-in-glorantha/
  8. I want this. The Arkham and Lovecraft Country maps in the 7e edition might make nice posters as well...
  9. M-SPACE actual play on Twitch [Swedish]

    I agree, subtitles would have been nice. I'm not sure anyone is up to hardcoding it though.
  10. M-SPACE actual play on Twitch [Swedish]

    I agree, subtitles would have been nice. I'm not sure anyone is up to hardcoding it though.
  11. The Underwater Grotto Restaurant: what's on the menu?

    Yeah, those are pretty much what we came up with. That's when I realized that plant life is predominately a land-based life form. I have Elfquest's Sea Elves supplement which lists mostly land-based food as their edibles. FYI, our group, we're the spearhead adventurers re-opening an island after a disaster long ago, helped re-establish trade with the sea elves (yay us!). Now we have to fight some suhaugin (boo!). Maybe my elf wizard can save some sea elven princess. (hah!)
  12. M-SPACE actual play on Twitch [Swedish]

    Shame there aren't subtitles. I'd like to enjoy watching it and showing it to my players.
  13. Aldryami vs uz

    As a general rule, yes. Or least behave more plant. Although naturally exceptions exist.
  14. The Underwater Grotto Restaurant: what's on the menu?

    It was a joke. You know hur hur. Sheesh this place can be such a pain sometimes. .;))
  15. Gloranthan Dance/Ritual

    Basically there is one Kalevala character reflected in one Uncoling shaman in name and attribute. There are oodles of difference, though. Väinämöinen building his kantele out of a pike's jaw sounds right out of Varanorlanth's bag of tricks, and there are more such traits that make the wild Odin parallel of Orlanth a better match than a shaman. Kalevalan Väinämöinen probably is one of those super-magicians, not limited to a single area of expertise. And he is a swordsman as much as a magician, nicely depicted in Gallen-Kallela's confrontation with eagle-form Louhi. There is shape-changing in the Kalevala, mostly attributed to Louhi. I don't see an Ilmarinen/Daedalos/Wayland character among the Fronelan Hsunchen, though. The pair of Dronari near Sog City probably come the closest in all of Fronela if you avoid Nida. Kullervo on the other hand might be Harrek or Janan Vartool, or any other headstrong young warrior with too much prowess and too little shrewdness. The Kalevalan song of iron would qualify as Gloranthan sorcery, btw - it is what you know, not what you are or what you have. The consequences of the Ban for the wildlife of Fronela in addition to the human cultures of Fronela have been under-explored. Migratory species abound in Fronela. Reindeer, salmon, birds like the swallow (which feeds on Gorakiki's bounty, also known as Gorakiki's curse in the subarctic regions), and at a guess even butterflies in southern Loskalm. I seem to recall Pralori outside of Pralorela from the info in Genertela Box, also north of the Nidan mountains, but there aren't any in the Guide. There ought to be elk, and Vargantyr sports elk antlers rather than reindeer ones. Speaking of the Pralori and getting back to the subject line of this thread, they claim to be the only keepers of the Serpent Dances which made up the Dawn Age shamanic meta-tradition of the Great Western Forest. At a guess, this was accompanied by rather monotonous singsong and drumming, possibly done by the dancers, rather than by stringed melody instruments (like the kantele) or reeds/flutes. .There are things in the Guide that require looking more closely, especially with the map of the Thaw which cannot be right, but that will be better served in a separate topic.
  16. Aldryami vs uz

    Thats helpful. So presumably their appearance will reflect their relationship with the plant and man runes? So those Aldryami in tune with Aldrya will appear to be more plant ( perhaps similar to the Brian Froud illustration concept i posted), and Yelmalio, Babeester Gor, Ernalda worshippers appearing more humanoid? look forward to seeing examples of the various forms of Aldryami in the new RuneQuest. The more accessible Aldryami could make interesting player characters. Are there examples of how to play a Yelmalio, Babeester Gor, or Ernalda Aldryami?
  17. Gloranthan Dance/Ritual

    Yes Indeed. And I think its pretty clear that we are talking animism in Gloranthan magical terms as well as conventional anthropological ones. Now, I still don't think you are addressing the idea that your argument here might not be with me, but the Guide. You haven't mentioned at all that naming the greatest shaman of the Uncolings Vainemune *might not be a concidence*, for example, and there are a lot of smaller details along those lines. We also known Lalja Vainemune, literally the only Uncoling individual we have any specific information on, has a magical voice, and difficulty finding a wife. Do magical singing and having difficulty finding a wife sound like themes that might come up in the Kalevala perhaps? Also, lets jump back a few months - who, during the Guide to Glorantha Group read, said, in regard to the Uncoling shamans description in the Guide- "This appears to be a nod to the magical prowess ascribed to the magicians of the Finns (the Norse word for the Sami) in the Nordic Sagas (and in the Kalevala). " (I won't keep you in suspect - it was YOU). In general when I say 'this is a pertinent reference' here, what I'm saying is that I think the poetic descriptions of the acts of the great shaman-heroes of this arctic culture are relevant when coming up with inspiration for inspiration for this other group of sub-arctic people with shaman-heroes, and enough rather obvious hints are there to make it clear. What you seem to think I am saying, and are arguing vehemently against, is that I am implying that the Sami (of some era) are ethnographically identical to people who can turn into magical reindeer. I am not saying that, and I think your efforts to deride me for claiming that just confuse the issue. I'm saying more or less the same thing you said yourself in September. And you seem very hung up on the ethnic divisions between Finns, Sami, Karelia etc because you seem to be arguing from the idea of ethnographic equivalence, but I'm really not because I'm mostly just saying it is a really good source for ideas about heroic, poetic shamanism in an arctic/sub-arctic environment, and as such: I know we are going to move ideas around between cultures, because thats how we do it in Glorantha, and because Glorantha has a lot of very specific (and often odd) points about zoology to incorporate (among other things) if we are only talking specifically about shamanism, there is significant overlap between Finnish and Sami shamanic tradition (a lot of which is documented in the Kalevala). and I'm really not that hung up on the details because 19th century reconstructions of notional texts driven by nationalism and its subsequent re-assessment, give us a quite a complex debate that I really don't care about. [detailed description about lifestyles of Viking era Sami deleted] and that is all very interesting, and has very little to do with the reasons why I said the Kalevala is a useful source for the Uncolings, Do they have great shaman-heroes? Do those shaman stories talk about the snow, and bears, and fish? Then they can be useful inspiration for stories about the Uncolings, and other people of Northen Fronela t The Uncolings may have some similarities in how they herd to the Tanuku Fiwan, yes, But the Kalevala contains cool stories about fishing for magic salmon in arctic streams and such. I'm pretty sure those are cool stories that not only can I easily use for inspiration about cool Uncoling (or Rathori) stories, I'm also pretty sure that all those stories of fishing and swamps and stuff really aren't very relevant to the grasslands of Jolar and Tarien. Its as if you have not just got focussed on a whole bunch of lifestyle and economic detail to the exclusion of the myth and poetry and you are terribly upset that I won't do it too. I presume this is intended to be a slur of some kind, but luckily I don't speak Pratchett. And I can claim only an English translation, a few visits to Finnland, and a few reference books (particularly Kalevala Mythology by Juha Pentikäinen, which is probably terribly outdated - its not easy to get books in English). I don't think it matters - we are talking at cross purposes conceptually, not arguing over facts. Except the close identification of clichés based on cultures is your projection, not what I saying at all. The Pralori aren't arctic. The rest, yes, those too. Mix and match stories of Northern European arctic shaman-heroes for the hsunchen and not-quite-hsunchen for inspiration, But the Kalevala is the best known source, multiple points of identification with the Uncoling are noted in the Guide, And how did you get from 'the Kalevala is a pertinent source for the Uncolings' to 'the Uncolings are contemporary Sami'? Seriously, I have no idea, and I'm fairly sure you are getting triggered by something only you ever considered as a possibility. So we agree on some things. Great.
  18. Aldryami vs uz

    Of course - just I find there is a frustrating avoidance of conceptual consistency, so phrases like 'has the X rune', or uses the X rune, the two runes are opposed, even the meanings of the Runes themselves will become terminology that has up to four or more somewhat inconsistent meanings. There are some similar issues with other magical terminology. And then we might start to slip into situations where some explicit statements about Gloranthan reality are no longer consistent between game systems.
  19. Nope. That's one of those hard-to-come-by grain products. I think you mean "sashimi".
  20. Aldryami vs uz

    I think many of these cases are somewhat speculative or limited, and if you make your own big and somewhat speculative list of what has the Man rune, then reason about the Man rune from that list, you run the risk of a circular argument. Are you sure all of those races have the Man rune? Why? Do you have a specific source, or just feel that they do? (FWIW, I think Ogres absolutely have the Man rune in the same way that normal humans do, maybe a little more, but the Chaos Rune as well).
  21. Aldryami vs uz

    HeroQuest has fundamentally different mechanics from RuneQuest. And yes the Aldrya cult encourages its members to be strongly in tune with Plant, not Man (especially since elf player characters start with the Plant Rune at 75%). More Man-oriented elves tend to drift away from Aldrya towards Yelmalio, Babeester Gor, Ernalda, etc. without ever leaving Aldrya entirely. Normal elves in full embrace of the Song of Aldrya tend to be pretty difficult player characters in anything other than an all-elf party, as their kinship with and understanding of Man tends to be pretty minimal.
  22. The REIGN OF TERROR Keeper Map of Paris by Olivier Sanfilippo is available now as a poster and art print at the Chaosium Redbubble store in sizes up to 33.1" x 23.3" (840 x 593mm). Beautiful cartography for your Call of Cthulhu campaign!
  23. Gloranthan Dance/Ritual

    You might be surprised, but ballet is quite Gloranthan, particularly in Dara Happen rituals. I believe this is some outtakes of the preparation for the Dance of the Heavens performed during the catastrophic consecration of the New Lunar Temple in Dragon Pass: Below was a dance I saw performed at Clearwine Fort as part of an Earth Season religious festival of Orlanth and Ernalda: Whereas I saw this dance during a Storm Season celebration of Orlanth:
  24. Aldryami vs uz

    I assume this has an implicit RuneQuest Glorantha context, because clearly this isn't true at all for HeroQuest. (and personally a wish that HeroQuest Glorantha and RuneQuest Glorantha had more conceptual consistency, I worry the Glorantha they describe is going to diverge) I personally don't like the idea that Plant and Man are opposed for elves. It kind of makes the Aldrya cult opposed to Man, which has a lot of weird implications for elven society. But then, I don't like the idea that Beast and Man are opposed either, it doesn't mentally work for me with eg Uralda etc, cults that are about the union of Man and Beast in a social context.
  25. Aldryami vs uz

    Note, we don't use the Spirit Rune for corporeal beings. Even though shamans work with the Spirit Rune (ie spirits), they aren't really defined Rune except when the discorporate. I toyed around with including the Spirit Rune on the tree, but it simply didn't work very well in play (and it became clear that it would end up creating problems for future products that I'd like to avoid). For Aldryami, Man is opposed with Plant instead of Beast. A herdman has 100% Beast, no Man (despite having a hominid form). Now I gotta say, I wouldn't use the Rune tree and Elemental wheel to describe every NPC (or even most). I usually just write down the two or three most significant Runes. Just like I don't write down every skill a NPC might possess at a base or low rating.
  26. So....

    As Rick has already stated, we've begun layout of the core RuneQuest books.
  27. Well, here is to two views and a bit more strict definition, word fanatism meaning "being overly exited of something". While fanatism does not include aggression in it's core definition, other interpretation, cold bloodness does not iclude excitement, which is strong emotion. If both views are false at base, there is a challange to keep debate sensible very long. Leaving maybe only one option: to do whatever you want with it without need to be debated.
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