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  1. To answer Errol's query re the founding of Pavis:

    • 720 the God Learners came and built Feroda
    • 780 God Learners built RobCradle
    • 800 giants and nomads curshed RobCradle
    • 830 Pavis and the Faceless Statue came and took over the orignal Pavis (now the Big Rubble)
    • about 850 Pavis decreed that the city was constructed enough that the dwarves didn't have to help any more
    • 860 Pavis retires permanently to his palace (which might be a euphemism for his apotheosis).

    All drawn from the Guide to Glorantha and Pavis: GtA.

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  2. On his website (in the part where he has a timeline of Prax scenarios) Soltakss has the first Proclamation in Sacred time 1620 and the second occurring in Sea Season after the Cradle scenario.  Not sure what his source was though.

    No actual wedding though.  Maybe the True Dragon ate the guest list?

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  3. Soltakss is right - there was a list which he did in 2006 of all the rune level folk.  It is ordered via the supplement in which each individual appeared.  I made a pdf copy for personal use.

    Soltakss - I'm happy to send you  copy (after all it is your work).  Happy to send a copy to Ian as well. Do I need you to approve this?

     

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  4. Perhaps where they landed is all part of the plan... kind of like leylines of magical power which flow from chunk to chunk.

    Of course there is a map deep in the Flintnail Temple showing where they all were planned to have landed.  Small groups of Mostali surveyor teams still go out from time to time to obtain field data to compare to the plan (and occasionally move them to where they should have landed).

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  5. I also started my Real City game adapting Scenes from a Market.  I was much less ambitious than Joerg - I used it merely to introduce Real City and its key locations and to get across the sense that outside the walls of Real City is a dangerous place to be.  As new members of the Real City Watch trying to make sure that hte market ran smoothly the players were very interested in each stall and who was running it.  

    It led nicely into Rough Business from P:GtA.  That intrduced Hagran's crew (or at least part of it) and gave them an understanding that the Pavis Royal Guard was not on the same page as Real City

    I have a mix of experienced players and a couple of 'new to Glorantha' folks as well.  To make the game accessible, the theory was start with one location (Real City), then have them do a brief trip into the Rubble (so expanding the horizon) and in Rough Business introduce New Pavis, Badside and the nomads.

     

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  6. On 3/17/2022 at 9:05 AM, Richard S. said:

    The god is the source of the magic, the myths are the pathway. They can't provide magic where they don't have influence, like how Lunar Magic is weakened when the moon is dark (except within the glowline of course) and the Windstop prevented Orlanth's magic from being used. Pavis, as a city god, only has power within Old and New Pavis.

    This seems logical to me - to a point. But if a City God then has a mythic act that occurred outside their city couldn't there be a (perhaps localised) place outside the city itself where worshippers have a connection to that god such that their rune magic would work?

    An obvious example for Pavis is when he went to the Paps and healed Waha. Each Pavis High Holy Day this is re-enacted in Pavis, but the actual action itself was outside the City. Pavis's actions have influenced the way that Waha and Eiritha perceive and treat with him and his cult - this action occurred at the Paps and so that location has a connection to him/his cult.  The location where he animated the Faceless Statue as well, perhaps?

    I also think that a city God's magic extends some way from the city. The idea that when Pavis was attacked and/or beseiged over the years if any worshipper fought outside the walls they had no access to Rune magic but if they fought inside the walls they then had full access is (in my view) frankly ludicrous.  If that were true Pavis would never have developed cavalry - why develop elite and well-equipped troops with valuable zebras knowing that their abilites are significanly impaired when they are carrying out their primary function?  In RQG terms, do all initiates of Pavis in Pavis County and who can worship locally every week have to make a pilgrimage to Pavis to restore their Rune Points?  Seems like a great time for the nomads (or worse) to raid their farms and towns whilst all the adults are away!  Durng the generations when the Rubble was closed there would never have been any way for Pavis worshippers to get or replenish Rune Points if they had to go to Real City to do it - that also seems ridiculous to me,and probably would have had people turn to other gods such that Pavis worship would have been wiped out in Pavis County.

    It is not the case that a clan or town wyter can only act in it's own town - it has influence throughout the clan's lands. Why the restriction on city gods?  Both have geographic limits on their power (which I agree with), shouldn't both work in similar ways insofar as their area of influence?

    Am quite interested in other folk's views on this.  🙂 

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  7. If you are happy to go back to the 1610s then River of Cradles has a great advanture which is for beginning characters and introduces the PCs to Raus Fort, so it and then Borderlands would work well.  In my view a campaign with Sandheart, Sun County and Shadows would be large enough on its own to not need to be intertwined with these.  Those three also work better with characters from predominantly sun-worshipping and associated cults.

    If your group want to keep running their existing characters and so you are in the 1620s then it makes sense to have a new  Argrath-friendly replacement to Raus.  I imagine that the early adventures would require more work than the later ones, but who is to say that the new person in charge desn't have a headstrong daughter...?  As a start, being an ally of Argrath would change the interaction with the nomads.

    Wherever the most fun is to be had is the direction to head towards.

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  8. Or it started to have noticable effects from 920 so they put on the request etc. as a political cover even though the work was done in secret beforehand.  Were there factions against this and so the Arrowsmith dynasty went behind / around the Council?  All just conjecture, but that is where stories and adventures come from.

  9. The reference to Labrygon being invited by King Jhanas Kyree (Yanas Kyrem) is on page 11 of Pavis Rises (Mongoose, 2010) and page 34 of Pavis:GtA (2012).  So it is some years after you did your original work.  I note Greg is thanked in the credits to Pavis Rises, read into that what you will.

    I canot assist in illuminating why the change occurred though.

     

     

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  10. Ian,

    I have pdfs of various parts of this you gave to me back in the early 2000s when you lived in Melbourne.  Please let me know if you want me to send them to you.  I certainly have the Liberation and Wedding ones, and various other smaller ones (e.g. Kagrokka, and 87 page 'Man for all Seasons' one.

    Coincidentally I am running a game heading into these very adventures right now.  Only took 20 years to get there!

     

     

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  11. Whilst there is a simplicity to Akhorahil's suggestion, this renders obsolete the line in the spell description that fumbles still have the consequences that they normally have.  So you are left with a rule where everything bumps up a success level ther than fumbles.  Thus losing some of the simplicity.

    A skill increase (say +40% just for the purposes of the discussion) increases the chace of success considerably and reduces the chance of a fumble by a flat 2%. so it also impacts on the chance of a fumble.  It also impacts on others if it pushes the skill level over 100%, as someone listening presumably has their skill reduced.  Arguably that is too powerful for a 1pt spirit magic spell.

    All in all I think I'd play it as per my first paragraph as it then only impacts the individual upon whom the spell is cast and maintains the same chance of excitement and hilarity ensuing when a fumble is inevitably rolled as one tiptoes past the sleeping jackobear...

     

  12. 6 hours ago, jajagappa said:

    Of course this occurs the DAY AFTER I place my order! <grumble>

    I hear you.  Two weeks after, in my case.

    On reflection though, if it means that the creators didn't take a pay cut then I am content with my lot.

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  13. Well, I am pleased and surprised.  But I now suspect that ducks only pretend that they cannot fly and have been very successful in fooling all the tall races since before Time began.

    My 'printed in the UK' copy of Yozarian's Bandit Ducks arrived in Australia today, a mere eight days after it was ordered.  Ahead of all the others that are on the same order, which of course is why (perhaps) ducks can fly...

    It may just be that the Sandheart militia are footsore from having to walk this far and so march slowly.

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  14. Then I had better get quacking cracking!

    Jokes aside, my current game is based in Real City in the Rubble; it may well be that I can mine the scenario for ideas. Am just about finished running Rough Business from P:GtA.

    In other news, my most recent order arrived this week - it arrived just over 3 weeks from the date is was shipped.  That inspires some confidence, and now I have a legion of chaos to inflict on the heroes as well...

    ... time passes...

    Done.  Bought seven titles in glorious premium tactile tangible reality.  In case it is useful to anyone, postage to Australia is just under 25% of the cover price.  Bulk orders did not seem to impact this. 

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  15. Speaking only for myself, I buy things that I want to run or play.  We don't expect Chaosium to offer anyting other than one type of electronic book and one type of phsyical book; I am certainly not expecting the individuals sharing their wonderful creations via the Jonstown Compendium to provide more choices.

    Moving on...

    This might be a question that is a bit too self-interested, but I'll be as shy as a Storm Khan and just ask.

    Is there anything which might become available POD in say the next three weeks which can be shared with us?  🙂

    A physical copy of Armies and Enemies of Dragon Pass, or Secrets of HeroQuesting would really be something to behold. And so many others, of course.

     

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  16. Thanks for the heads up Nick.  I will be one of the folk who sneaks in an order in the next few days to access the current prices.

    Speaking (writing) as someone who lives outside the UK, my experience is that the postage cost from the UK to Melbourne Australia is significant.  Also, it seems to take 50-60 days from when the item is printed and shipped for it to arrive and so I expect that it comes via sea freight, rather than air freight. 

    That is perplexing as Lightning Source have a printing location here in Melbourne which would be far quicker in terms of delivery which they don't seem to use for DriveThru product.  I would have bought more physical items if the supply chain wasn't so fragile and long, and the postage cost was lower.  I guess that the UK outlet is the only one with a relationship with DriveThru

    All of this is outside the control of anyone on this forum.  All in all I much prefer the option to purchase hard copies than not having the option.  I accept that prices change and appreciate having a chance to be ahead of it for my next order.

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  17. Well, here I was just floating an idea and then in the blink of an eye someone helps out.  That is very kind - thanks Bren.

    It looks good.  I'll be offering this to my players in tomorrow night's session.

    Seeing it visually makes me think of another question. Are the category Elemenary Rune and the specific Rune both available to inspire a skill? So you can use both Fire/Sky and Darkness for listen?  Moon and Air can both be used for Sense Assassin and Sense Chaos?

     

  18. One of the interesting and positive changes in RQG is the integration of Runes into play.  However, with this comes another bunch of things for the GM and the players to remember and so I have a suggestion.

    Remembering that the Earth Rune is inspirational for communication skills and axes, whilst Air is swords and manipulation would be much easier if next to every skill category on the character sheet the relevant rune was shown. So the headings for each category would be Agility [water rune], Communication [Earth Rune] etc.  It would be right in front of the players and so no-one would have to remember or to double-check the rune information on pages 48-49 of the rule book. After all, if the play can flow with less breaks then there is more fun to be had.

    If I was a player at a table that would be something I would write onto my character sheet to save time and to jog my memory.

    I would also draw in the relevant rune on the weapon skills table for the same reason.  It would show at a glance which elemental rune the player needs to roll on to inspire their skill for the relevant weapon.

    As a GM who is trying to keep across everything and who has a couple of players new to RQ at the (virtual) table,  if that was something which was in front of the players for them to track and use then it is easier for me to concentrate on the story and engaging those players.

    Before anyone says that 'anyone can just do this so why don't you?' - I am suggesting it because if it was just there it would be helpful to everyone.  Also, many folk have electronic character sheets these days which are a bit harder to put these sorts of changes on to.

    If anyone has already done this on an electronic character sheet (such as the fillable pdf one I have seen) and is happy to share it, then please let me know.

    Thanks.

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