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  1. 7 hours ago, Richard S. said:

    [for example] a peasant mob will pose the same threat to a group of experienced adventures that it would a gang of beginners because the base difficulty will have increased.

    No, the GM is supposed to take into account the experience of the PCs when they set a contest's resistance, so for example the same peasant mob might be medium for beginner PCs and easy for experienced ones.

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  2. Here are two HQ2 hacks.  They both transpose HQ2 numbers on to a smaller scale that's more like FUDGE / FATE, Apocalypse World, Barbarians of Lemuria / Everywhen, PDQ, and FU.  That simplifies the numbers, makes it easier to consider using different contest dice for HQ2 (the probabilities in HQ2 are not transparent), and makes it easier to compare all of these games.

    === Punk rock d20 HQ:G ===

    This is just a sketch.  There are three things to see here:
    1. Divide all the numbers by 4, so that 5 points is like 1w.
    2. The punk rock part is to roll contests using one die with a wide range of outcomes, like playing HQ2 using a d80.
    3. Fixed resistances instead of a treadmill.

    __ Character sheet __
    6 keywords (culture, community, occupation, and 3 runes), levels +4, +3, +2, +1, +1, +1.
    6 abilities or breakouts, levels +4, +3, +2, +1, +1, +1.
    0 to 3 flaws, each -1 to -4 and allowing you to add an extra ability or breakout of the opposite value.
    The numeric template is fixed but you can develop a character by switching abilities into different numeric slots, and by adding +0 abilities and breakouts.

    __ Contests, 1d20 with modifiers: __
    relevant flaws: -1 to -4 each
    no relevant ability: -1
    ability augment: +1
    stretch/specific ability: -2 to +2
    situational modifiers: -2 to +2 each
    plot augments: +1 to +5 each
    hero point: +5
    If you want to make it really punk rock, add
    natural 1: -5
    natural 20: +5

    __ Resistances __
    DC 5: low
    DC 10: moderate
    DC 15: high
    DC 20: very high
    DC 25: nearly impossible

    __ Outcomes __
    < DC - 15: complete defeat
    DC - 15: major defeat
    DC - 10: minor defeat
    DC - 5: marginal defeat
    DC: marginal victory
    DC + 5: minor victory
    DC + 10: major victory
    DC + 15: complete victory

    __ Notes __

    Starting from the goal of simplifying everything in HQ2, I considered doing this with 2d6, which is kind of like opposed d20s, but then I considered expanding the rolling range to represent crits and unexpectedly it suggested the standard d20 scale.  But that's interesting.

    Two comparisons between this and HQ:G:
    * A 1w advantage wins 75% of the time here, and 85%-90% of the time in HQ:G.
    * The chance of a marginal outcome is usually 50% here whereas in HQ:G, it's "average" 50% but more variable: 50%-75% for an equal contest and 10%-25% with a 1w advantage.
    * Reference for HQ:G probabilities: http://anydice.com/program/adbc

    === FUHQ ===

    What if you like HQ, but FU dice pools?
    Obviously, the world needs a FU-HeroQuest hybrid named FUHQ.

    __ Character sheet __
    12 points of abilities, keywords, and/or breakouts.
    0 to 3 flaws for an equal number of bonus points.
    Keywords cost 2 and are fixed at +1.  Breakouts are +1 or +2.
    Solo abilities are +1 to +3.
    Conversion: below 1w ~ +1; 1w ~ +2; above 1w ~ +3.

    __ Contest results __
    1-3 major, minor, marginal defeat
    4-6 marginal, minor, major victory

    __ FU dice pool __
    (In FU you roll X d6s and take the highest, or the lowest if you're at a net penalty.  X is 1, with modifiers.)
    no relevant ability -2
    stretch -2
    flaw -1
    ability +1 to +3
    augment +1
    specific ability +1
    situational modifiers -1 or +1 each
    plot augments +1 each
    FUHQ point +1 each (3 per session)
    Moderate resistance (routine check) -1
    High resistance (challenge check) -3
    Very high resistance (adventure boss) -5
    Nearly impossible (campaign boss) -7

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  3. Yeah, and I said no advancement.

    "I'd let players shuffle points around between ratings over time to reflect what aspects of their character they wish to emphasize in play, (Many Fate-based games take a similar approach.) "  That.

    Character development like in literature, but not advancement which is an illusion in HQ2 since resistances are defined relative to the PCs and advancement is independent of whether a character becomes more skilled in the fiction.

  4. On 11/5/2019 at 3:37 PM, JonL said:

    Advancement & escalating resistance are one of the big warts on HQ2/G as written.

    Laws's "Why advance Characters at all?" side-bar in HQ2CR is a totally legit approach if you're leaning more towards "Ratings are relative measures of abstract problem solving power" and away from "Ratings ratings reflect in-fiction capabilities and effectiveness."  In that context, I'd let players shuffle points around between ratings over time to reflect what aspects of their character they wish to emphasize in play, (Many Fate-based games take a similar approach.) 

    Yeah.  The resistance treadmill is pointlessly confusing.  If fixed resistances had been the default that would have been so much clearer, and they could have added value by providing rules for character development rather than advancement.

  5. If I may paste two paragraphs from a sidebar on p. 105 of the HeroQuest 1 book:


    Charlatans and False Belief

    A world full of magic can also be a world brimming over with charlatans, hucksters, and exploiters claiming magical powers they do not have, espousing false religions, and promulgating useless magical techniques. Many crackpots and deluded souls wrongly believe that deities, spirits, pure forms, or entities of their own fevered imaginations have favored them.

    Just as there is never a shortage of deceivers, the supply of gullible Gloranthans is also inexhaustible. The many false claims about magic partly explain the extreme conservatism of most Gloranthan homelands; the people who have thrived are those who refused to try alternative magic.


  6. Seems like Orlanth Adventurous initiates would be on the elite side, more fighters than farmers... so she should have a sword.  Particularly with the new rules and fluff.  I wonder why she doesn't.

    Edit: and the caption says she is in fact a rune lord.  So yeah, what's up with that.

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  7. On 4/24/2019 at 8:15 AM, Sir_Godspeed said:

    Maybe there's a Beaver Spirit that makes this easier. Sounds very beaverish, at least.

    IMG the lowland Dragon Pass duck clans herd beavers for carpentry, for pulling swamp chariots and sleds, and for fur and meat.  So they're kind of like horses.  The lowland clans also herd giant snails, and they're kind of like cows.  Then there are highland clans that herd and ride sheep.

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  8. I dunno if I'd consider it "*the* common reaction"... it happens in the King of Dragon Pass game but are there other references to it?  Might be more YGWV.

    About traditions, I'd say a new clan will recognize the same ancestors (including the new clan founders, eventually) but has to find/get/create/invoke a new wyter.  And traditions can evolve, like if the new clan ends up giving special honors to different minor gods or subcults for whatever reason.

    About land, I think Greg said informally that all the best agricultural land was occupied in the first age.  Of course wars and disasters such as the Dragonkill cause depopulation sometimes.  And with magic you can sometimes make bad lands better.  Anyway, fuel for storytelling.

  9. There is a very good Glorantha mod for Age of Wonders Shadow Magic called Age of Glorantha (link).  I think it depends on motivation.  Good total conversion modders are out there, but they don't grow on trees.  I once aspired to make a Glorantha Civ 4 mod and asked Issaries for permission to start, at the time a console-style adventure game was also in pre-development, so for that reason Greg politely said no.

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  10. > [Joerg] Or rather the leak the Mostali have been trying to plug under the Long Dry?
    > [David Scott] The assembly gantry ...[snip]

    I don't remember ever hearing about this Mostali Prax / Dragon Pass tunneling stuff before, but it sounds cool.  Is there some background text on it somewhere?

  11. For one thing I think trolls run trade ships out of the Shadow Plateau along more or less the same trade routes as everyone else.  Maybe using some alternate routes if they have different navigation skills, or help or contact with sea trolls, or contact with different communities like in Jrustela.  But I think sea trolls are mostly not intelligent so they would have to be very primitive materially.

    There's a mention somewhere of ice skating troll ships on the frozen White Sea.  Maybe they run west out to the glacier and who knows, maybe even up and around the other way to Koromondol.

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  12. >  assuming every age ends with a reappearance of the Devil (according to KoS) 
    It's one of many things I prefer not to take too definitely, as a firm assumption.

    But sure, yes, basically it was the excesses of the God Learners, which caused cataclysms.  Does that mean there has to be a being taking the role of Wakboth?  Shrug.  In Middle Sea Empire p. 42, there's a suggestion that 3rd age Western scholars say that it was Gbaji who led the God Learners astray, working behind the scenes.  Gbaji is the entity for which *they* use the epithet The Devil, but Gbaji and Wakboth have different mythologies.

  13. About burning a whole library, it might not work if you do it impiously.  But it might work at first.  Another thing that might not make it work so well is if you don't understand what you're burning.  Like if you haven't read it at all, or stole it from some foreigners and can't read it - well, maybe that sacrifice will not yield anything.

    A scroll you copied yourself, devotionally, is probably the best sacrifice.

    But I think scrolls from rival scholars will work, too.

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    On 1/13/2019 at 11:15 PM, EricW said:

    The Lunars tamper with myths and bend the rules. ... somehow seem to tinker with myths on a scale comparable to God Learners
    What protects imperial sorcerers from the Doom Guardians

    I don't really see it as tampering, more like reinterpreting.

    That said, in King of Sartar nothing protects the red moon from the dragons that tear it apart except maybe the moon's own powers of rebirth.

    16 hours ago, g33k said:

    who IS "glorantha.tumblr.com" ???

    Down With People according to https://www.glorantha.com/forums/topic/the-lore-of-glorantha/.

    14 hours ago, jajagappa said:

    Guide p.135:  "By 776, the heirs of these wizards, popularly called God Learners, had developed unusual magical methods to look at the world. The secret is dead with its initiates, but was evidently called the RuneQuest Sight. It apparently allowed initiates to see the world as a series of patterns, relationships, and repetitive reflections which could be organized according to the now famous Runes. Their Heroquesters followed the paths of their Runes through the Otherworld, and then shaped the Otherworld by planting those Runes into other parts of it."

    I recently stumbled across the classic Compleat Enchanter books and have to imagine they were an inspiration.   "... parallel world tales in which [universes] based on the mythologies, legends, and literary fantasies of our world [can] be reached by aligning one's mind to them by a system of symbolic logic. [The main characters] travel to several such worlds ..." (wikipedia)

  15. 2 hours ago, Ian Cooper said:

    I think the bits, as with the Red Goddess have to have existed, but their assembly as Yelm was new. Indeed Yelm would by Greg's suggestion be a composite of other figures: Antirius, Elmal, Kargzant, the Emperor etc. My point is not that is was created fresh, but the name Yelm is applied to a synthesis of these elements.

    OK, well - when you say

    2 hours ago, Ian Cooper said:

    Yelm is not the god of the sun at the Dawn for Dara Happa [Antirius is].

    ... how do you think Yelm is different from dawn age Antirius?  Concretely.  How were his myths different?  Likewise how do you think the current Antirius is different from the dawn age one?

  16. 22 hours ago, GianniVacca said:

    We could walk the Revolution D100 path and have Foil, Shadowing, etc. be +30% bonuses to the relevant RQ:G skills when they are used in this particular way.

    Yeah, in a Glorantha context it would be interesting to have Traits be a special thing you can learn from certain cults.  The rules already provide other ways to get buffs - rune augments, heroquest rewards, and spirit and rune spells - but if you want even more chrome that's a way to get it.  Or if you just wanted to hack RQG to make it more like Rd100, with a smaller skill list.

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