M Helsdon
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One thing to bear in mind is that farmers exploit everything they can to support their community, and that includes activities off the land (my ancestors two centuries ago were farmer-fishermen and sailors). Farming work is often seasonal, with sowing in Earth Season and harvest at the end of Fire Season, and although there are tasks to perform between those times, utlising other resources is essential. So fishing, whether in a river, or the bay, would provide another source of food and income, and of course the rivers are conduits for moving agricultural produce and perhaps irrigation. So a farmer venerating, say, Barntar, and Lyksos would not be unlikely.
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Purely for my own amusement, I've created this map based on maps shared on the Well of Daliath by Jeff. The island names may no longer be current canon, as some of the maps looked to be fairly old, but this may be useful for anyone travelling across Choralinthor Bay. The map is from the Argan Argar Atlas, with additions.
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The Heortland Land Goddesses and their inland territory as described in Ships & Shores are derived from the information kindly provided by Harald Smith, from his forthcoming Chaosium Heortland supplement. Their territory lies primarily between the rivers of the plateau.
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There's a fair bit about Esrolian rivers in Ships & Shores. The Lyksos has its own section in the Periplus, and the volcanic soil spread by the rivers in southern Esrolia is mentioned. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela
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I recall reading somewhere (it may have been one of Jeff's posts) that when the God King redirected the Engizi via the New River he 'married' Esrola as the local Land Goddess to Engizi. I can't recall the source.
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15.
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That's reliant upon sales. I have a number in mind, and when that is reached, I will generate the poster.
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I intend to 'finish' in the next week or two. There will always be typos, especially in a book of this size, but it is nearing the '95% complete' stage where the last 5% is almost impossible to finish, as you enter the realms of diminishing returns for effort expended. Then the generation of a POD can commence! Laughs manically and runs off into the distance gibbering and meeping.
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You are welcome. I'm pleased that it is useful. I'm now implementing corrections to the typos identified by my valiant proofreaders.
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Harald and Nick have provided valuable information. In the 1621 Harrek meets Argrath at sea, and most of his fleet will consist of Wolf Pirate penteconter uniremes and biremes, supplemented by merchant round ships and tubs to carry supplies and plunder. I imagine that at that time he will command about forty or fifty ships, and about two and a half thousand men and women. There will be a hierarchy of captains, some commanding only their own ship, others a squadron of three or more..... Of course not all the pirates will perform the circumnavigation - some will still be based on the Three Step Islands, both to defend and supply it by raiding and exacting tribute along the coast. At this time, Harrek's crews are likely to be mostly Yggites and Orlanthi from the Manirian coast. Dormal will be worshipped as well. The ships will probably sail in groups. A penteconter can only carry enough food and water for two or three days - most stowage is under the rower's benches, so coordinating with the cargo ships is essential - and the captains of those ships are mostly likely to have previously sailed the southern seas and be familiar with the currents, weather, location of islands and harbours. Most of the pirates will want to have at least one sailor aboard familiar with the southern waters. My books don't detail the south - it would have made the book too large - but if you do buy Ships & Shores, the details on logistics and navigation will be useful. Harrek will be sailing out of sight of land, something most of his pirates have rarely done, save in the Neliomi where conditions are very different. Navigating using the stars will be important, as the fleet may be scattered by winds and waves, and have to have plans to find each other. Plenty of scope to encounter weather, monsters, and even unmapped islands, and the uncertainties of sailing the open sea - lack of water, and even threats of mutiny. Your best Chaosium source for the appearance of Wolf Ships is in RuneQuest: Glorantha, page 402.
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I've just uploaded a new version of Ships & Shores as there was an irritating formatting error in V16. Preparation for the POD continues. Detail of an illustration by Mark Smylie. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela
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Ships & Shores V16 has now been uploaded to DriveThruRPG. This is the final format of the panorama of the Holy Country and Choralinthor Bay. The book is 'complete' barring typo corrections. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela
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It looks okay in the 'full-sized' version. I create these screenshots from an image at 50%. Word seems to adjust the content for some reason when you change the page display size. Thank you. I liked the earlier version but on reflection it was messy.
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Didn't like the white space, so have reformatted the page, which will be included in the next update.
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A Panorama of the Mirrorsea An Air God’s view… Choralinthor Bay is the birthplace of all modern ship- building in southern Genertela and the location of many hazards also found along the coast. The shallow waters and gentle winds here are accounted to be placid, lending him the epithet of the Mirrorsea, but his topography and the shifting tides can make him a challenging place to sail when they turn. The last piece of art has been added to Ships & Shores - a fabulous panorama of the Holy Country centered on the Mirrorsea by Mark Smylie. Version 15 has just been uploaded. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela I will create a poster of this picture when sales reach a certain level. Work on the POD may commence in a month or so. A Vision of Myth is also available - just one off gaining Copper..... https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/462903/Visions-of-Myth
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Recently updated with new art by Mark Smylie, and now in the DriveThru sale. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela?src=hottest_filtered
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Perhaps a larger version of this - the Vithalla temple at Hampi.
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Katrin has sold prints of some of her illustrations at conventions, but they don't appear to be on her sales site or Redbubble at present.
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As promised, a 'poster' of Katrin Dirim's beautiful Nochet picture has now been added to Ships & Shores available to be downloaded. Even in the version in Visions of Myth it isn't possible to see all the detail. This should help. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela
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Thank you.
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I'm not sure how that could work? The books definitely complement each other, but I don't see how DriveThru could handle a multi-author bundle. We can certainly market them together.
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Hi Jason, thank you for your comments and your review. There are five pieces of art outstanding, not previewed in the current Work in Progress, though Mark has sent me preliminary sketches. Four are roughly half-pagers, and one is likely to be a double-page spread. It would be enormously useful to me for you to share your review on the FaceBook Runequest group, or, if you are not a member, allow me to do so. I know Mark has several commissions ahead of mine in his work queue, so I won't be posting there about Ships & Shores for a week or three.
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Ships & Shores has been updated to version 13. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela Minor text changes and I have modified the character pictures by Mark Smylie to remove the borders so they are all now a little larger. Another beautiful picture by Mark: the shipwright Korrand of Sklar shows a model of a trireme to the lady Awétynna of House Chorlanaeo whilst her handmaiden makes the final adjustments to her hair. The ornate and ostentatious hairstyles of Esrolian noblewomen demonstrates their status and wealth. Awétynna is an Initiate of Choralinthor. [The dress style is heavily influenced by Bronze Age Mediterranean costume, apparent from Sardinia to the Levant and Egypt, and best known from Crete.]
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Ships & Shores has been updated - two beautiful pictures by Mark Smylie. Now at V12. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/452062/Ships--Shores-of-Southern-Genertela A fisherwoman accompanies her husband, a sailor riding a Duck's reed boat, from their coastal village as he travels to join his ship at the harbor of Karse.
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She is high priestess of Delaina, who is a sister of Ernalda, and City Goddess of Rhigos. There's a paragraph about Delaina in the Glorantha Sourcebook, and more in Harald's Nochet player book, and my Ships & Shores.
