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Darius West

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  1. Wakboth holds the chaos rune, ergo, Wakboth IS chaos. You say Wakboth is not all Chaos, but how certain of that are you? Do you doubt that Wakboth can call the creatures of chaos to leap into his mouth to sustain him, but obliterate themselves in the process? As to Wakboth liberating the creatures of Glorantha from their gross matter, well what about liberating minds from sanity, and for that matter, liberating those who exist into the blissful non-existence they knew before their birth? In this sense the Crimson Bat is also a great liberator, but the teaching methods are a bit extreme, an
  2. The Broo healer of the Rockwoods mainly heals broos. And yes, a good Uroxi would commit suicide rather than take on a chaos feature, but is an illuminated Uroxi a good Uroxi? Is an illuminated anything a good anything? Not for long. Dragonewts do many odd things, and never rule out wearing garters. "Shame on anyone who thinks evil of it"
  3. And why would I do that when none of the evidence points to any other view being correct? Right, so, we should take a broo's opinion of the truth over the rest of Glorantha's? The only reason Glorantha has a diversity of opinion is because it rejects chaos. Had the bulk of Glorantha simply accepted Chaos, all those views you are saying are so diverse and important would have simply ceased to exist, having been destroyed by Kajabor and Wakboth and the world would be dead. Where's the diversity in that horrible gooey monoculture of dead chaos slime? I am defending the right of Gloran
  4. Nope. Chaos is definitely the death of the world, or Glorantha would revere Wakboth as a great liberator and a new god. Kajabor was so powerful that even the spirit of Glorantha herself couldn't actually destroy him, but had to turn Entropy into Time to curtail this immensely destructive force, which even now is destroying everything in Glorantha, just more slowly, and will inevitably completely destroy the world eventually. The fact is, Glorantha existed perfectly happily before chaos, and to remove chaos would be an immense blessing. There is no "spiritual message" involved here. You hav
  5. The point is that within the history of Glorantha illumination HAS been exploited by munchkins, over and over again. And yes, that means this was part of the Author's intention, unequivocally. Illumination seems benign on one's first parse of the info, but it isn't. Illumination is actually a hugely insidious and destructive force in Glorantha. Then you are doing it wrong. Orlanth has so many aspects and subcults that it is eminently possible to play any number of variations on the theme, who are all utterly individual and unlike each other... Unless you are playing HQ, as then yo
  6. Bronze age warfare shouldn't quite be subject to the same moral compass we would ourselves apply. They are a society where the routine slaughter of animals for sustenance is a matter of necessity and religious observance. The death of enemies is a matter for which you rejoice and thank the gods. if you can slaughter them in massive job lots, so much the better; thank the gods even more. To talk about innocent victims is culturally ignorant and inappropriate. Were they innocent victims when they sent their sons to lay waste to Sartar ? Were they innocent victims when they bent their knee
  7. Isn't it ? I would have said that every munchkin and his little brother dog would have been lining up around the block to get the perk that lets you join any cult. There simply isn't anything intrinsically spiritual about dodging your responsibilities, culturally determined or otherwise. Nysalor illumination is a false illumination that amounts to spiritual materialism. It isn't even about actually seeking refuge from suffering, it's all just about unlocking power. Any actual spiritual dimension is largely irrelevant. And what is the spiritual message of Nysalor? It amounts to "Chaos is
  8. Yes is definitely is a joke of that sort... But do you seriously think that Illumination isn't also Munchkins gaming the rules? But it leads to another form of munchkins gaming the rules. Consider... You transcend cultural determinism, rejecting the implicit cultural limits you have been taught to accept, and are now spiritually immune to the repercussions of breaking them. This leads to moral relativism, supported by casuistry, that forsakes all limits in the pursuit of power. It is the very definition of munchkinism, dressed up in a New-Age frock sprouting a chaos feature that nob
  9. This sounds very promising. Poland and its people often pleasantly surprise me. despite their implacable hatred of vowels. Błogosławieństwa dla was wszystkich
  10. "Keep deep lore out of newbie threads. If you can’t say it in one paragraph it’s not appropriate for a new user post. Deep lore threads are awesome places to learn, but only when you are ready for them. Help new members by linking to existing deep lore posts with “Here is some more information if you are interested.” Have more in depth info to add? Make a new thread and link to it. Remind your fellow experienced members to continue the conversation there." I don't believe we should talk down to people or restrict them from "adult conversations". Deep lore conversations can be very tantal
  11. Yeah, by RQ3 rules I would argue that a 1 hour extension should only allow travel in the Near Spirit Realm, not the Far Spirit Realm. Aspirants/Assistants are noobs and should kick around in the wading pool while they learn to swim.
  12. I think that might be more God Learning than Illumination, potaytoe potaatoe
  13. I can agree with you to a degree, but remember that nothing opens the floodgates on power in Glorantha like illumination. Suddenly the illuminate is able to use and abuse magic like never before, and the only consequence is social censure by those who dare to speak truth to power in an age where massacre of enemies is seen as a good thing. Illumination is a license to riot handed down by some very questionable gods who are all-too sympathetic to chaos imo. In many ways, due to its covert nature, Illumination is more destructive of the world than actual chaos features and chaos monsters, as
  14. Yes, there is power involved, but to assume the continuation of war was the only reason would be very uncharitable. It is like telling someone that they are only marrying for sex or for money. Such a claim makes a lot of pretty simplistic and insulting assumptions. One might view the marriage as a way of hopefully securing peace in the region, for example. A way of seeking to end the Hero Wars, while guaranteeing that there was now a confederation strong enough to face off against the Lunars, including the former Holy Country, Maniria, Prax, Sartar and the rest of Dragon Pass and its vario
  15. This is charmingly cynical and likely quite accurate. It certainly seems to describe the actions and motivations of most illuminates from the literature. Everyone is down on Argrath apparently for being a bit too genocidal with regards to the Monster Empire. Beat Pot is a hypocritical monster. Jar-Eel is a fascist poster girl with no conscience to speak of. Then there's Ralzakark... Yeah... Ralzakark... And there's Oddi the Keen, who joins up with Ralzakark before ultimately betraying him. I could get into how Arkat and Nysalor are both Gbaji. So, are all illuminates a pack of axehole
  16. If any part of Ralzakark is a broo then all of Ralzakark is a broo. Normal female child, or covert ogre illuminate?
  17. Why kill them when you can simply render them unconscious with an uppercut, a sleep spell, a befuddle. "Chaos stalks my...ooof!"
  18. If Argrath were only devoted to destroying the Lunar Empire he would never have taken the time to court and marry the Feathered Horse Queen. As to what Kallyr's long term aims were, why do you suppose that they were so very different to Argrath's? She wanted to restore Sartar, but really could Sartar be restored as an independent and sovereign power while the Lunar Empire still exists? Probably not, given the determination of the Lunars to kill Orlanth and subjugate Sartar at all costs. Do we ever hear of the Lunars seeking a long term peaceful settlement with Sartar or Argrath's Empire in
  19. In essence every hero is a proto-god by this reckoning. Most heroes, for example, have a Nemesis, and many have a fetch of some description. To say Ragnaglar is somehow not a broo is however absurd. Just because he is embodying the Unholy Trio doesn't make that less the case imo. No illuminated broo detects as chaotic, but does that mean they are no longer broos, or no longer chaotic? No. Illumination just hides this component of their character, but they can still have active chaos features. He isn't a deity, he's just a very naughty broo.
  20. Ultimately the slaughter of Peloria is a mass Hero Quest. Orlanth killing Yelm... A lot. But seriously, by the time the slaughtering gets going in earnest the Lunars have devolved into the monster empire, and likely Argrath is getting the blame for the "Lunar" Empire imploding. Remember that the Lunars would "mainly" try to avoid feeding their citizens to the Crimson Bat...Mainly. I take the situation of the destruction of Peloria as being very similar to the way the Roman historians blamed the Visigoths and the Vandals for sacking Rome, when in fact it was the Romans themselves who sacked
  21. Jeff, I have always been curious about the Pavic cult of Iffinbix. It is apparently an Earth cult that practices sorcery, has square, slope roofed temples which require people to eat agipith roots before entering ( I assume they are filled with poisonous gasses), and likely practice a fair amount of teleport magic. Iffinbix also seems to be linked to the rise of vampires in Pavis. Can you tell me anything about the mythology of Iffinbix, or detail about the cult's history after Time, or what it's magical abilities are like? Was the cult originally from Teshnos, for example?
  22. A fair assessment. Yeah, it is a bit like that. Beat Pot is a less-than-sympathetic character for that reason. Who knows what Jar-Eel sees in him. I think it expresses a huge deficit in her character that she takes him as a lover. That is a very jaundiced reading of those characters. They are both aware of the terrible dangers that illumination represents. The whole notion that chaos is somehow okay is fundamentally flawed as an idea, and the license to riot that illumination represents is something that a person with a conscience should oppose, even if they are illuminate
  23. I think it runs deeper than that. Destroying the Lunar Empire isn't only something Argrath wants. Pretty much everyone in Sartar and the Heortlands wants that, and likely many folk from further afield too. Argrath is just the one who can and does bring it to fruition.
  24. Broos can look like just about anything. If a broo buggers a unicorn, you get a unicorn broo. If a broo buggers a mold for a statue, you get a hollow human, and kudos for creativity.
  25. Sry, every part of Ralzakark is just a broo, and this weird connection they have is just a chaos feature. Prove me wrong.
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