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HeartQuintessence

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  1. Ernalda is Queen of the Earth, I feel like she probably has or had those things prior, Poetry- I mean what power of nature whether it is for woe or weel, does not inspire the words to lip into existance and be created, summoning forth images and and game sometimes. I honestly would give Ernalda Virtues and other things take them for Orlanth and rework them (if I knew what they were), saying she had them first or they perhaps share them.
  2. Its such a good idea. If anything it could be simply looking at weighing who brings what to the table, in some reguards, maybe its not physical material wealth, but some other kind of wealth, a Heroquest they have performed an can teach the story of .
  3. THis is a amazing, I think this needs to be spun (pun intended) off into its own little scenario for the the 'book'. Hmm maybe it really should be called "Asrelia's Hut' - Gloranthan Femaleness- (ok maybe drop the sub title). But I like the premise it turns all the things into really neat Heroquesting. I think we should also talk about how much the women of the clans are its back bone - I mean I started reading thunder rebels last night, and on page 30 it talks about the types of marriage the Orlanthi recognize and this in terms made start thinking about how young women, might flirt and entince men- if all marriages are exogamous ( in theory you're marrying no one of your own clan) - then by the Thunder Rebels page .30 listing- which also states that it is exclusive and monogamous ( which we've positived may not be always true).- we have both men and women moving about, which presents a complex issue for clans. If your best cow-breeder woman is marry, how do you replace her? You can't really. Her secrets and her powers go with her lessening your clan.
  4. They must always be a mare.
  5. Oh this has turned into an amazing thread once again. I am glad I reached out to the tribe. Makes me feel even better. Onto the quotes. You my friend of my spirit, you nailed it, like I think you took what I had been running around trying to say and found words for it, perfectly. If this were reddit, there would be reddit gold involved. But I do think this what I have been trying to say so much of what women : 'Do is cloistered'. I am going to have to write a scenario where a young physically male child(but pre-puberty) sneaks into the ritual of his mother and aunts ect, and some how helps and there for becomes effectively initiated via helping, and so the ritual the becomes open to pre-puberty people who wish to participate because their thoughts and ideas make leaps that adults sometimes do not make. @Bohemond Peraps we'd best write up this Spindle mythos- ok at this right it sounds like I am gonna have to get a group together so we can produce this. I do think that perhaps there are some rites that Orlanthi men retreat into other spaces, for rites maybe that's part of things as well. As a woman, I agree. I mean I know they covered up many of the Ernaldan priestesses the RQG book, (because the rules said so) but I found the uncovered art to be tasteful and beautiful and yes we should have more men images, I mean, some Lunar lady with a cadre of cool male slaves (because that's a great image, but of course none of them are changed in an way, and they have weapons and they all look really neat). Looks like this Supplement will after it written need some cool art. Excellent points all around. as I stated above- I think having an adventure or two where people actively participated in and engage in secrets in general of both sexes. A man being needed for ritual- but he has to actually be in a particular mindset for the ritual that's not his normal - say a very 'gentle' guy being turned into a roaring beserker-- random ideas are weird. So you played "Battle Brigrade" in Glorantha, go it. I like that. It depends on what Bohemond has been reading, there are also weird subsets of books that make you go: Wait the entire point of this genre is for this women to have a polyandrous love life, but they all focus on her and not any of the other complexities that would come with this life, and all of this kinda grinds to a hault after she gets knocked up- I am not joking there are books on Amazon with components like that. Also if Polyandry is a thing in Glorantha how does that work? I mean can woman hold the keys to multiple year marriages at once? Mind you the men are not brothers or related in any other formmat, they may even been opposing sides, like an Orlanthi lover, a Lunar lover and a Grazeland lover... (there is a story there that I am gonna have to write). Thanks guys, this is getting to be really awesome.
  6. But this is a book about Women and initian and power... Though i guess female ducks work and they deserve a place in the book. Who do ducks worship? I feel their gods are distimce from the human ones...
  7. Out of curiousity and to poll the community, WHAT DOYOU ALL WANT TO SEE IN THE BOOK, at least i hope it'll be a book.
  8. Wow deja vu all over again. This is great, it gives me an idea, for a character- though I am struggling to represent her a bit through RQG's history tables, but here's the rough version that's coalecsed over the last few hours: -Child of the Hearthling Harts Clan (Ok that name sounds really kitchy and needs to change) - Her family includes her two mothers- One a Pure Horse woman Grazelander- 'captured via heroquest- The heroquest kidnapping may have been due to the Pure Horse Woman's lover being a Sartarite/Orlathi woman - The Grazelander Woman's dowry was She is young yet- pre initiation (using RQG's rules for inexperienced adventurers, though I may tweak things even more..)- as this thread was started to create and develop a nice "Lady's Suppliment. But opinions are welcome on the scant ideas I threw to the winds.
  9. @Ali the Helering Fortunate Sucession, that's the first time I have heard of this. Is this a book of some sort of a subsection somewhere?
  10. @Qizilbashwoman I maybe so new to glorantha that the context of the above makes no sense to me. Isn't Illumination a Lunar thing? How is there an ancient god of it? I guess its best to say that the Wyter is the representation of the Hearthling Harts, this clan founded by women and orphans of the Greater Darkness and reliviing their story of their ancestors at the DragonKill. [I guess this is there 'canon' history now'].
  11. THank you, this is making the "Hearthling Harts" an interesting tribe. I like the idea of the idea that the clan was founded by women who were widows and Orphans of Greater Darkness and then again a restablishment of "old methods' when the Dragonkill too many of the men : parallellism. I don't think the Hearthlings are like those Marazi at all, though I imagine during the Greater Darkness the Hearthlings took no slaves (that seems to be a thing that ties the Sartarites together, whether or not they took slaves during the Greater Darkness..
  12. Well dang, Maran Gor and Babester Gor are... well hard core in some ways. Good to know. Also I am loving the fact that in a way none of the old material gets invalidated by newer stew (though the production values on the new stuff are TOP NOTCH By Ernalda's bountiful breasts, "The Coming Storm" and "Eleven Lights" are beautiful to be hold... if I had more space and a book shelf I'd buy physical copies. Ok so, who's Yelorna, I immediately see "Yel" in the name and go: "Any relation to Yelmalio?" Do we have people who just write new MYths for Glorantha, and in Glorantha when you do that, does it take adoption by community? (see my Wyter questions at the top of Page 8? Or can someone simply telling a story and making it up make it a real myth in the mind of those listening and so it can be performed as a HeroQuest? I ask because I am considering building a Clan, who's Wyter are effectively Reindeer, a 'herd' of Reindeer, (at least in my mind. I think the tribe ended up with Reindeer-herd Wyters because even though they started in Earth Season, their clan making dance was not until Winter as was their quest to find the Wyyter ( which was initially because the grouping was made up of young people, who.. thought they knew better. (I am not sure if this the official story). Can one even start a clan without men or do we need both Genders? (Oh now I see how Glorantha becomes a rabbit hole).
  13. Question: Do Wyters(clan-spirits I guess), do they have a gender? Can they have gender? I know they mentioned in Sartar Kingdom of Heros, but then in reading say Thunder REbels- which really goes into them (boy was Thunder Rebels eyeopening if, 'outdated' as others have said. But it opened my eyes to the world of Wyters. Can a Wyter be created or born, formed from the collective quest to bring the clan together? Is there a clan-making ritual? Has it been written about?
  14. Which I think got one of those 'pre-pub' versions at gencon.
  15. Well that answers that question. And with each question I ask, I get better equiped to answer my own questions and build my Glorantha slightly better. Also I want God & Goddess of Glorantha out *[please let that been soon it sounds like we've been waiting for for 2+ years eve since Guide to Glorantha came out]*. So now I am wondering if all this heroquesting stuff might present some new angles for women.
  16. oh man , now I see why I keep returning to Glorantha, this scratches a mythical itch that I didn't know I had.. also--- Ernalda priestes turing a body of clay or a doll into a living child is.. um...impressive- also cool. Also wow that's one way to keep a tribe alive. they need to give us RQG rules, or maybe just some HQG rules for Heroquesting. Who's Redala and where can I read about her? Is she also in obsolete material and doesn't count? Skimming through some of this material- what is up with all this shapeshifting in Hero Wars material?
  17. Hero forming? Ok, please tell me more, because that idea just makes me go wait, in Glorantha you can do this by Heroquesting? Wait what? (like i know everything is mythical, but my brain is doing some real gymnastics to keep up with new information. Could a man wanting to Serve Ernalda as a priestess simply take on a Heroquest and during that quest quest bear a child, cause like you said it seems impractical (not to mention exauhsting, I mean real child bearing just takes a toll, I can only imagine that doing it as a Heroquest is going to really be... intense. Wait are people transported to the Heroplane physically or are they spiritually there? Is there a difference?
  18. @Eff & @Jane Thank you for clearing that up, that's actually really interesting from a new person's point of view, like to have that mini summary. So 1) Which early Glorantha '80s material can I find this in where the cults are not restricted by gender? 2) Where is there info on this Nadan cult? (I've heard a few people talk of it, but never seen any. More book suggestions please! So this presents and interesting view point: and I ask all of my elder and more knowledgeable tribe mates for information on this topic cause this gets my wheels turning. 3) What are the compromises that you all see? Since I am really quite new, I think I kinda like idea and may spin it this way: a) Women and men can worship Orlanth and Ernalda, and yes the subcults(?) Vinga (Orlanth as Woman, and Nadan (Ernalda as man) exist and maybe indeed be the way in which some Gloranthans come into themselves and access the mysteries and their power. But I don't think it stops men from worshiping Ernalda as Queen of the Earth, they just cannot be her Priestesses (because of the requirements, persay) and I am not sure how it afffects Vingans.
  19. Wait @Jane , can I get a little clarification on that: You siad the RQG Clashes in what ways? Is this clash with prior material? And what do you mean 1 expensive book and the last 20 years of development? I know Glorantha can and does ellicit strong feeling from various corners of the internet (the friend who introduced me to Glorantha for that matter). I mean isn't the point of Your Glorantha May Vary (YGMV) to allow people to address those clashes at their own table and not necessarily have to have official stuff match? Though I will agree that perhaps not mentioning any female Wind Lords is a little silly ( but wait are Wind Lords different from Vingan's which are different again from something else (Rune Priests?)?) If this is the case then nothing 'clashes' persay, though I admit that having more material with female wind lords would be cool, front and center in official published material- so that way we can point and say: Yeah they considered things!
  20. That is a better way of putting it @g33k Also Hello! Much easier. man now i am really thinking about Women.'s myth, and heroquests and initatioms and scenarios...
  21. So this means that Grazelanders are living in the Dragon pass. Cause tobecome King of Dragon pass you have to marry the FHQ who apparently has some amazing fallijg and those women are like Ghngis Khan levels of... "i have stuff todo excuse me..." from what i read in RQG. So maybe ill work from a Sartarite, Grazelander, Esorloian perspective and write some qomwn, s myths.
  22. No this is great. @scott-martin wwhat god is this?
  23. Well i guess the Orlanthi people are mired in their religiousity. Is there a book about Prax and its culture? Because thenimage of thFethered Horse Queen is interesting...
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