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They will on contact.... 50cal rounds will tear limbs off, ask any vet. I still have my headspace and timing key.

.50 cal rounds will tear your flesh open with in a certain amount of distance and they do tear limbs off.

If anyone is interested in discussing this that I suggest they read up on the Tactical Combat Casualty Care and the PHTLS (adavanced-Militaray)/ATLS course materials. Wound Cavitation from high velocity rounds and care from the platinum 10 minutes through golden hour to the silver 24 gives you a breakdown in the lethality of GSW's per location.

LOL you have me flipping through both rules... The TS companion is pretty good stuff for back then. It is however good to talk about it.

Supposedly William Wallace could do that, or was it lighting from his ass?

I have RL experience with the III+ & IV+ Level SAP plates.... especially vs the 7.62mm x39mm and 7.62x54mmR B-32 rounds.... I will share this in a private chat if you like. Also a few anecdotal notes about the Long-Iron shooters we have gone up against. Here is a company that makes claims that I know are not 100% accurate. http://www.bodyarmornews.com/bodyarmordevelopments/new-hard-armor-inserts-developed.htm

Guess SAP plates are not available? 7.62mmx54mm is a bitch to stop....

I see I am not CoC fan....but I understand

Yeah Kung Fu was cool in the west.

Rock paper scissors did work until your unarmed combat got ridiculous with the amount of "retreating" that occurred. I concur though that "skill" or level of proficiency needs to be a factor in the process. The Arcade fluff .... yeah I was a combatives instructor in the army...the kata/arcade/hollywood nonsense ends real quick.

TS did have called shots.... albeit with offensive penalties., the Wil roll you mentioned is realistic (been there myself RL), I understand the math issue with modifiers considering flow of play (but it did still work). The Will roll with certain types of wounds is something to consider.

It Could be I am sure Chaosium is happy I am purchasing so much of their inventory, I am also thinking about watching for the D101 "The Company" to see what it is about.

Gotta have ninjas and stray kung fu masters in the wild west.

I will look into it

I really like the TS putting the sheet of paper up against a matrix and going: "you three Attacks and two defenses" and slugging it out. Yet, that doesn' handle the reality of modern day unarmed combat. But with BRP how does one handle say a "combatives" (MAA style) Strikes, Locks, Chokes & Throws. Using simple combinations like Inside punch intrecept/choke that in blinding speed turns into a takedown with knee to the groin.?

I think recently one of the most compelling pieces espionage literature was " See No Evil" by Robert Baer. As far a VG games combat system... yes prior to my tours in Afghanistan it did seem to simulate it fairly well, but hindsight now I lean more towards TS or a d100. If I may ask what were the merit of the VG James bond system that you found superior, Maybe I am missing something?

Does it have Cowboys, Indians and Ninjas?

I just have recently heard about spycraft. Its d20 right?

So we are still discussing "wayfart"? Somebody needs to find the BRP one ring to " Rule them all.....and in the darkness bind them". Like I said in a post to Peter Nash MRQII had such a nice ring, like BRP.

Speaking of mechanics ... the martial arts system in TS was simple and fast.... suggestions for BRP?

VG's James Bond was more of a "Hollywood Espionage System" in my opinion. Espionage meets Playboy. But I did plunk down the cash for it as well.

Considering this day an age it wouldn't have to look far for inspiration.

"FYI I have the modern firearms system that I used in Rubble and Ruin available in the download sections. There are Modern and WWII. Many people tell me they like these rules. " Many compliments on the rules ... In fact I am about to spec out my RL 6.8mm M4 for my modern BRP Shadow Warriors Campaign.

No doubt the majority of the adventures where crawls and combat oriented. But with the recent "Shadow Warrior" theme in the movies from the Borne trilogy to the Body of Lies the stressing of field craft and information collection is coming into vogue. Back in the early to mid eighties what did you expect for 32 pages for $6.00. Besides at 12 years of age back then I was more a wanna-be commando then. My sidenote about TS/SI is for me just didn't capture the feel. BRP to me is the ideal system to capture "update" of old Top Secret. Presently I have everything from old TS save modules TS005 - Operation: Orient Express & TS006 - Operation: Ace of Clubs. I am hoping to have a complete collection soon.

According to legend there was 7 other piglets when this one was chased down by Arthur. So the random traits could cover the offspring.