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6 hours ago, metcalph said:
I don't consider somebody's apprentice
We have a different way of viewing things
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44 minutes ago, Bill the barbarian said:
I cannot recall Aziok, where is she from?
She is the Dark Troll Arkati Queen who does not approve of Arlaten muscling on her gig in the Rubble.
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9 minutes ago, metcalph said:
here's really only two sorcerers in RQ3 - Halcyon vor Enkorth and Arlaten.
What about Mikos, Aziok and her daughters, and Maculus?
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12 minutes ago, DreadDomain said:
This, I absolutely concede. Without access ro the RQ3 rulebook, a character with sorcery in a scenario would be very difficult, if not impossible to use.
Having done such convertions, I would say no. It is not too bad.
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On 11/2/2022 at 10:57 AM, Godlearner said:
And then there is Uleria, or are you guys taking away the D10 from her priests? I mean she her role is to act on the physical world 😈
In part this was a serious question. Do priests of Uleria still maintian their D10 DI in RQG?
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3 hours ago, svensson said:
The idea of a SIZ 10 trollkin slapping around SIZ 18 Uzko warriors has a certain appeal.
Does not have to be. Any multiple births are considered to be trollkin even if they are Uz in every other way.
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3 hours ago, David Scott said:
Their role is to act on the physical world. Rune priests don't have that role (I realise that its not always as clear as that).
And then there is Uleria, or are you guys taking away the D10 from her priests? I mean she her role is to act on the physical world 😈
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1 hour ago, Ludo Bagman said:
This means that the average STR of the encountered iron dwarf warriors will be higher than average.
They will have boosted stats with sorcery to make any restrictions such these meaningless.
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23 minutes ago, Jeff said:
AA is all about communication with the Night, rather than going about fighting the foes of Darkness. His priests are not particularly martial - they have mass of spear-using trollkin, but those are expendable masses - the dark trolls don't fight with the trollkin! Zorak Zoran and the Karrg Sons are the war gods for the trolls. As a result, AA has Rune priests, not Rune Lords.
AA go where Night's rule is not absolute and danger abounds. Trollkin need to be trained and organized and even though AA's primary role is not of a fighter, his leadership role speaks to the need of military aspects. I would say there is a good case there for some Rune Lords.
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31 minutes ago, Jose said:
Hi, I am planning to give to Thunderbird all common rune spells 1 point and cloud cover, summon /control small silph, bless thunderstone.
Any suggestions will be welcomed.
You are still laying RQ2, suggest you move to RQG. 😁
Why do you feel this spirit should have access to common rune spells?
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1 hour ago, Barak Shathur said:
dwarves have been given a blunt weapon as their primary melee weapon
Only Iron dwarves would have primary melee tools, and these dwarves would surely choose tools which are the best for the job.
Yes, other dwarves have blunt tools listed, and dwarves are good at using their tools, but they are not the best tools for the job of war.
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9 minutes ago, Erol of Backford said:
Has anyone encountered Slarges in Genertela?
They are said to exist in Pamaltela. There was a reference to a crocodile like people in Western(?) Genertela
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38 minutes ago, Erol of Backford said:
So what about the other questions, anything in Kralorela on the Sun Dragon? Should we assume Sun Dragon is somewhat like Lodri in Prax being followed by the Agimori, a small number but always there?
According to Jeff, there are multiple Draconic humanoids, in addition to Dragonewts. There maybe Sun Dragon worship thee.
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5 hours ago, metcalph said:
Humakti have gifts and geases and also sever themselves from society before rejoining. IMO a Seshnegi that joins Humakt has no Rightness and is considered legally dead.
What if the Humakti stays away from THOSE gifts and geases. Severing before rejoining is a form of Baptism. I would say, in the extreme case, their Rightness is set to 0 or 100 and start his life from there.
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In previous rules, I believe warhammers could crush or impale. So, have them impale as by default.
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6 hours ago, Richard S. said:
nationally supported cults
Malkionism is a nationally supported cult.
I think what we are dancing around here that the source for all magic in Glorantha is the same, but to be useful to must be channeled and structured. I believe Jeff previously referred to making structures in order to cast sorcery. In the same way Rune magic and Spirit magic are already pre built structures. They are shortcuts with specific and limited results whereas sorcery is the long, but flexible way of doing it. If we consider that than the difference between Zzaburi and other castes is that Zzaburi do not take shortcuts. in this way we can see as to why Malkioni societies are in part no different than others since they are not so different, but at the same time more versatile as there is no need to adhere and promote different specialist pantheons and spirit cults to cover societal needs.
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1 hour ago, Jeff said:
Here's the current rules:
Thank you Jeff, that is very usefull. Are special abilities/magical adilities determined by the person's level of RIGHTNESS within thier caste?
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2 hours ago, radmonger said:
If proper Caste Magic[1] does turn out to be something other than the results of sorcery cast by Zzaburi on other castes, there would either need to be yet another magic system that did describe what does happen when they do, or a justification for why they never would.
Since we are in the RuneQuest topic area, I am going to stick with what is in the current rule set, and until we see the actual rules for Malkioni zabburi use sorcery, the other casts use Rune and Spirit Magic and all references to Caste Magic => 😨🤡👺
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2 minutes ago, metcalph said:
I'm assuming a warrior picking up sorcery because the topic was teaching sorcery to the non-Zzaburi. A Zzaburi that starts prancing about in armour is likely breaking caste and becoming magically weaker.
But not all Malkioni are caste static and we have discussed learning sorcery outside Zzaburi caste.
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34 minutes ago, metcalph said:
To get RAW for 50% chance for the above spells requires 50% writing, three spell skills, two Runic Knowledges (Death and Stasis) and two Techniques (Summon and Dispel). The Runes and Techniques alone is four seasons, the spells another three. All this is becoming significantly costly timewise for a warrior who studies in sorcery, so much so that he'd be better off not getting involved in combat at all. As for the magic, he's going to boost nine other warriors. Let's say that he has 30 magic points. That's lot for somebody in the Colymar. That's about 3 magic points of spells each which is barely better than the other warriors' own magics (bladesharp 3 etc).
The numbers aren't stacking up. To be effective, the sorcerer has to be in the role full-time, which proves the Malkioni reasoning about Caste. If you want the Malkioni warriors to have sorcerous combat effects then the appropriate mechanism is, I think, Caste Magic and Rightness (My own thinking: treat the Rightness Score as a Free INT and assign sorcery spells to taste). Or you could give them a Hrestoli Runespell that gives them the temporary runic knowledge of a specific rune and +10% to spell skills per magic point expended in the Runespell. Which has the added advantage of getting up the nose of the nearest Wizard.
Right, but you are assuming a warrior picking up sorcery. If you start the other way, an apprentice going bad for example and then becoming a warrior things are work out much better. A warband with a "pet" sorcerer is a much tougher nut to deal with.
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36 minutes ago, Jeff said:
Depends on the needs of your game and what that lower caste sorcerer has done.
I see, so we can use this as guide for local conditions as it seems to run the gamut. Interesting. Thank you.
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29 minutes ago, Jeff said:
Others think that deep knowledge of sorcerous techniques should be restricted to specialists (such as Rokarism).
Is there enforcement of this? Do the Rokari seek out those from lower castes and persecute them?
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2 hours ago, Darius West said:
Everyone who follows Malkion is a Malkioni. Brithini are Malkioni.
Are they? Or do they just offer their worship to Invisible God directly without going through Malkion.
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As was stated in the other thread (Worship in Malkioni lands - RuneQuest - BRP Central - The Chaosium forums (basicroleplaying.org)) Zzaburi use sorcery. The other castes suport the worship of the Invisible God, but may worship cult and spirits as well. The question I have here is do any Malkioni, except Zzaburi use sorcery? Is it prohobited? Is it proscribed? Or is it encouraged? How difficult, and how expensive would it be for an Adventurer, or just a tradesman, to purchase a casting of sorcery?
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Shargash rune spells?
in RuneQuest
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You do not need to be a fighter to benefit from this spell, especially if you receive it from an associated cult. Example: Ernalda.