Tizun Thane

On 12/4/2022 at 5:18 PM, SaxBasilisk said:

outrageousity

What means outrageously in this context?

I understan the word outrageous, but in the oath, I am not sure.

On 11/23/2022 at 2:24 AM, SaxBasilisk said:

More troublingly, usually giants are figures in folklore that are defeated by trickery, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do so.

My PK tricked Sangnoir anyway... They lured him outside, and the more discreet knight stole the horse. 

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In Beroul, Tristan is again forced to leave for Brittany when the King’s men
nearly discover him. Kaherdin, meanwhile, is carrying on an affair of his own in
his own country. Tristan aids him, but is struck down with a poisoned lance held
by her enraged husband. He languishes and finally asks Isolde Blanchemains to
ask Isolt if she would attend to his wounds; if the Queen was coming, the ship
she sailed on would bear white sails; otherwise, black. Stricken by jealousy,
Isolde of Brittany lies to her husband; she tells him the sails are black. Believing
his lover had scorned him, Tristan dies. Queen Isolt finds him dead and she
herself dies of love. The two are buried at Tintagel, where Mark permits them a
proper grave; from the ground two trees grow, their branches intertwined.
These events occur circa 537-9.

@jeffjerwinI was unaware of your work at the time. And yet, I choose to follow Béroul's and Thomas version, and the death of Tristan occured in 538 in my game as well. 

To kill Saxons and bandits? Pure fun!

To have a sexual dream? No way!! ^^

15 hours ago, SaxBasilisk said:

if it does seem a bit like a railroad (which I think is less of a problem for a short adventure, I think).

it's an epic quest. All epic quests are railroaded ^^

I played it during the 540s, without any difficulty. I don't think the adventure MUST be played in 515 (?).

I changed the beginning. The intel to look into the wastelands came from a paramour of a PK (because it was appropriate).

The Wastelands were the highlight of the adventure. My PK felt the despair of the wastelands, and the holity of the queen of the wastelands. During the mass, 1 PK (christian) critted his spirituality roll. So he had a vision of the Virgin Mary,and his baby Son, during the Communion ^^

One other thing was the chronology. I let them counted the days, because there was a timeline. i added a few encounters "en route". And the fake damsel in distress/witch was the twin sister of the wife of one PKs. She (falsely) told she was made prisonner years ago, because I am a nasty GM.

But the fake damsel could also be the sister of a PK for exemple, not a random damsel.

On 10/27/2018 at 11:14 AM, Atgxtg said:

Grapple. Whole thing was completely redone.

What are the grapple rules in 5.2? Just curious.

14 hours ago, Morien said:

His heraldry is the variant arms of Sir Kay: "In the Vincent ms.: Azure, two bird’s wings inverted argent."

Interesting. Thank you

Good news!

Is the man in a blue surcoat Ector? I love the drawing anyway.

Will the pdf be available for the Gen Con? After?

On 7/27/2022 at 3:11 PM, ArkSvid said:

I've been avoiding spoilers for what's coming up in the campaign, but I do know that Cornwall was supposed to devour Jagent and be a major player in the future. As things are going now, they're on the path to becoming a rump state that serves as a lesson in one's reach exceeding their grasp. Really looking forward to seeing how this weaker Cornwall plays out in the future.

Or maybe they will come back next year with a bigger army, while the Saxons are invading Salisbury... The kingdom of Cornwall have indeed many lands in Brittany. We'll see. Anyway, nice little tale.

T

Otherwise, Book of the Manor (p.32) have a clear guidline about all this glorious expenses.

Neighborhood
Cost: £10
Length: 1-2days
Glory for Sponsor:50
Glory each for Melee and Joust Champions: 50
Local

Cost: £50
Number of Entrants: 1,000
Length: 3-5 days
Gloryfor Sponsor: 100
Gloryeach for Melee and Joust Champions: 100
Glory for other Entrants: 10-20

Regional
Cost: £160
Numberof Entrants:2,000
Length: a week or more
Glory for Sponsor:200
Gloryeach for Melee and Joust Champions: 200
Glory for other Entrants:20-30

Regal
Cost: £900
Numberof Entrants:3,000
Length:Two weeks or more
Glory for Sponsor:300
Glory each for Meleeand Joust Champions: 300
Glory for other Entrants:30

17 hours ago, mj6373 said:

ne of the PKs is having three of his sons come of age to be knighted in the same year, and since he's come into a fat wad of cash, wants to spend the rest throwing a big tournament in their honor, but we're not sure what the economics on that look like.

The knighting of the eldest is paid by a special tax. You have to pay for his two brothers, which is very costly (30 £ by knight, according to Book of the Manor, feast included).

I use the childbirth rolls, for established long-term relationships (And yes, you roll the same year). For one night stands, PK can roll or not, or with a -5 malus, depending of my mood of the day and the precautions used.

On 6/24/2022 at 1:21 AM, Richard S. said:

'm assuming it's just old english speak for a short person, not a supernatural short craftsman, but I'm just wondering if there's any particular reason they're mentioned so often? And of course, since this is the Pendragon board, do they get any attention in the game or gpc?

There is always an ambiguity. Sometimes, it's a normal man with a disability, serving as a jester. Sometimes, it's a magical being. King Oberon is a dwarf, for example. As David2 said, in Erec & Enide, there is king Billis of the Antipodes, or in the same tale, Guivret le Petit (Guivret the Little), a fierce dwarf knight. There is also the servant dwarf of the knight Yder son of Nut, a powerful and somewhat evil knight.

http://nightbringer.se/nightbringer/a_guivret.html

This tale is full of dwarves to be honest (and I love it!)

Of course, in Arthurian Legends, you should forget the cliché about the d&d dwarf. An arthurian dwarf looks like a human (always short, often ugly, sometimes beautiful). He is often cunning, sometimes loyal. He don't have a beard. He is not a miner or a craftsman, but have often a sharp tongue.

And sometimes, he is a wizard, a human with supernatural power, like Frocin, the dwarf in king Marc's court. 

You can use them as much as you want, usually as some kind of servant in some noble court. 

17 hours ago, SaxBasilisk said:

Read the outcome in my campaign here. (I did get the names Guinier and Guiomar mixed up, which is fine, as I don't think she's coming back.)

Guiomar is a man, and Guinier a woman ^^

The others pursued avenues for Sir Roderick’s benefit, with Sir Harri giving him love advice and admonishing him for his behavior. Even a match with Sir Bryn, who had slain Roderick’s father, was suggested for a moment. Eventually Sir Roderick realized that Carys was a good match. The two fell in love (?), and they undertook the ritual. Sir Harri performed the serpentine bris. The lady Guiomar left in disappointment to return to her uncle Cador.

It' a bit short to my taste.  Which rolls did you ask for?

I would ask for a valorous or love for the lady to go inside the cuve. Then a chaste or luxurious roll (or maybe some seduction roll) and an App roll to tempt the snake.

21 hours ago, Voord 99 said:

ook of Knights has one solid addition to character generation that I really like: Glory from the person who knights you.  This is both true to historical reality and, more importantly, is something that comes up in the literature.  I’m going to add that to my game when Arthur “introduces” chivalry.

Interesting. How many glory points? Canonically, you could be blamed (ie honor loss) if the new knight became some felon. Hard to quantify however.

Otherwise, yes, the third edition is probably the best to play a short campaign. It's my favorite edition btw.

10 hours ago, MOB said:

he Master Tournament Table tells you everything you need to know about tournaments of all sizes, from Neighborhood to Regal, including the number of knights in attendance, the value of the prize on offer, the Glory for participating and for winning, and the cost and Glory from sponsoring a tournament. Detailed rules follow on how to run jousts and melees, including rules for joust scoring and special tables for when you fumble…or worse, when both knights fumble!

I really hope the rules for the Melee are good. It was always a flaw in the rules before, and I hope for the best

10 hours ago, MOB said:

, and we have plans in the works to put out more card sets in the future, starting with a small deck in the Starter Set.

Nice ! Can't wait the new cards

The drawing is beautiful by the way.  Is it the wedding of Arthur and Genever? 

16 minutes ago, Morien said:

Technically, by the rules, if it is a Sunday and not noon yet

I use the sunday at noon rule. I love it. It's part of the spiritual world, from a christian pespective , and I think it's hilarious. My Players always ask what day they are, and they are so happy to learn it's saturday. 

However, there is little chance that the battle of Lindsey was fought on a sunday, and remember the guy needs chirurgy anyway.

1 hour ago, SaxBasilisk said:

If you let this PK survive, surely others will be seeking the same solution later, and you want to be ready for that.

Exactly. That's why my advice was "let him die". It's not mean. It's the world. If you want to set a harsh world, it is the way. In a harsh world, being heroic is truly heroic. 

10 hours ago, creativehum said:

So, magic!

First, do not overuse magic. As a GM, I would let him die to teach a lesson. War is messy. He should have been more careful. Uther's times are brutal, and magic is very rare. Thousands will die this day.

Usually, in this case, my players would pray. It's cute. With a crit, some miracle could occur, if I feel the mood.

With O PV, maybe one of your players have some healing potion? +1d6 HP and he is good again? Maybe some NPC otherwise?

If you want to have magic to save him, go for a Merlinus ex machina. Merlin agrees to save him, but asks for a gift. A future unspecified gift, from all of them.

Otherwise, maybe the comatose character will met in his dreams his old mother (but she is weirdly young and beautiful again). She will says to her son he is going to die. But there is a way to save him. She have connections in the Other World. A terrible way, with a terrible price to pay. Does he say yes? A few years latter, the King of Sauvage will kidnapp all his children, or some other curse.

Anyway, don't lose your time with sidequests. Others PKd will die, and soon. It's the nature of the game.

2 hours ago, Darius West said:

Never assume that we understand those higher mysteries, or that they didn't involve the "call of the flesh".  Now this may have been Christian propaganda

I read different articles about this custom during the crowning of the king. Maybe it was pure propaganda. Maybe it was not. Ireland was already (mostly?) christian at the time, so it looks unlikely.

However, in the life of Caradoc (a french tale in the 12th century with old roots), the king Caradoc the Elder (and the sorcerer Eliavres afterward) are both forced to have intercourse with a mare. And Eliavres and his mare got a son together, a stallion named Lluagor. This weird tale could be an echo about some forgotten myth. The monk could gossip about the same old myth.

Anyway, I don't think bestiality (even sacred) is a good theme for the game 😅

3 hours ago, Darius West said:

Never assume that we understand those higher mysteries, or that they didn't involve the "call of the flesh"

I was just trying to make sense about the contradiction in the original adventure. PKs are looking for a pagan blessing, but they should remain chaste. It's a good explanation from a gaming perspective.

12 hours ago, SaxBasilisk said:

Along the way, they might test some of virtues, particularly some of the pagan ones (it was always odd in the original to require a Lustful test...)

It bugged a long time. RAW, If you want to explain the scenario with its chastity test, I would allow a religion (pagan) for all knights. If they succeed, I would tell them they can enjoy this night of joy and life, BUT if they want to understand the higher mysteries of Epona, they have to ignore the "call of flesh".

For a rerun of the adventure however... to have Saxons in search of a blessing is a good idea.
A good idea is to test pagan virtues this time, not christian ones.

- To lend some horse to some fellow dismounted knight ? (generous)

- an ugly old crone (with some ogres as bodyguards?) is asking with a threatening voice if they are in quest of the Whithe Horse? (Trustful)

- the same old crone is asking the PKs if they are worthy of this holy quest ?  and why? (proud)

- the same old crone maybe wants some love, in exchange for some intel ? (lustful to "satisfy" her)

- Some energetic test is not difficult to imagine either.

So... I read the "king beneath the hill". It's a nice d&d aventure with a celtic touch. 

Is it a nice adventure for KAP? Probably somewhere ^^ I think you could change all the undeads by some faeries (or make the undead less D&D and more Pendragony), remove some magical items, place the hill/tumulus in some appropriate site. In the old boy king, all the "real word" tumulus in the Forest Sauvage are listed.

9 hours ago, AlHazred said:

The sword can only be taken by a true knight." In D&D and AD&D, there's some specifications how to determine that. For Pendragon, I'd make it a contest of Valorous rolls, to see who is "worthy."

Maybe honor would be more accurate? Anyway, thank you. I will read it.

Does someone know " The King Beneath the Hill", a pendragon adventure from white wolf magazine (#26)? It is good or not?

On 5/4/2020 at 3:35 AM, SirGarethBeaumains said:

Hi there - Beaumains editor here - what would you like to know? I'm actually working on a project at the moment which is to reprint a bunch of stuff from the magazine, mainly adventures, plus more which was intended for the magazine but never made it before life got in the way of me having time to edit it.

I always was very curious about Beaumains. I would love to read more about it. Is your project next to fruition? Could you post the pdf somewhere (drivethru...) ? So many questions...  A bottle in the sea...

@SirGarethBeaumains

I said boring in the sense that having a big tournament and a big feast every year is a bit repetitive. 

18 hours ago, Morien said:

YPWV, though.

If I remember correctly, you have  one "court session" and one "adventure session" per year. I have only one adventure session per year. It's logical you have more use of the Pentecostal Court.

4 hours ago, SaxBasilisk said:

For those with campaigns in the Boy King era and later - how often do your knights visit Camelot?

I follow religiously the advices provided in Blood&Lust. Once every 3/4 years I think. I try to maintain an aura of mystery around Camelot. The court of the Liege is the main court in my game, not the royal court.

Familiarity breeds contempt, after all.

4 hours ago, Morien said:

So unless the PKs are busy with something else, they try to make their way to Pentecost to participate in the festivities and in the tournament.

Once in a while, it's fine. Every year? It became boring quickly. My players hate Lancelot for this reason. They don't even compete anymore if he enters the jousts ^^