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  1. Funny you mention that. Here's the quote from Tradetalk #06 p.6, from the third and final installment of Shannon Appel's series on the Kingdom of Night, emphasis mine: "Ezkankekko fought fiercely. He even called up the Great Night Dragon but none of this was enough. Belintar scattered the Only Old One's remaining allies and even slew the Great Night Dragon, destroying its society forever: its body diverts the course of the Creekstream River to this day."
  2. The source I'm referring to is a series of old, old Tradetalk Magazine articles, written from the in-universe perspective of an Argan Argar priest from the Shadow Plateau.
  3. I've read that the monster Belintar slew late in his conquest of the Holy Country, whose back now forms the Lead Hills north of the Shadow Plateau, was called the 'Night Dragon.' So Cragspider's dragon may not be the only Darkness-associated dragon still around.
  4. The Blue Bat is probably Mahaquata, the troll version of the Blue Moon, otherwise known as Anilla and Veldara: Boztakang led the first trolls to settle the Blue Moon Plateau, it was their prayers and ceremonies that revived and reshaped the fallen Anilla into their bat goddess. The Black Sun is also called Basko, the shadow of Yelm, the darkness that always rests in the one corner Yelm isn't looking. He had almost ceased to exist, like Anilla/Mahaquata, by the time the trolls emerged from the Underworld in the Storm Age, but a troll host found Basko soon after emerging and with worship
  5. The sequence that begins on p. 123 of Heortling Mythology, where Heort is confronted by a troll party who conduct him to Only Old One's citadel, is the Orlanthi perspective on Ezkankekko 'summoning his chiefs' as jajagappa describes. Only Old One = Ezkankkeko = Kimantor (which means "the man you cannot see") = Lord Victory Nightbrother
  6. The most complete version I'm aware of is in Esrolia: Land of 10,000 Goddesses, where it's also called the Battle of Nochet, but I seem to recall there's a version from the Orlanthi perspective in the Book of Heortling Mythology. It's built in. The Unity Battle is in essence the story of how the Only Old One gathered the surviving peoples of Dragon Pass into an alliance to battle the invasion of the final Chaos horde. Every society that made it to the Dawn in central Genertela tells a part of the story. The Orlanthi sing of Heort, the hero who led them to hold out in the ho
  7. When my group was dealing with the same situation we didn't use a heroquest to unite the whole valley: we used Argan Argar Arms the Trollkin to crash-train the valley's swarm into competent spear-trolls. Obviously that would require some Darkness power on the part of the players. I'm not so sure that the Unity Battle wouldn't be applicable to the situation though. If memory serves, the Company of the Manticore is in Lost Valley because they were granted it as a fief by the Red Emperor, for their retirement, which puts them in the service of Chaos even if the Company's personnel aren'
  8. A character I played added a bit to their Illumination score by having a conversation with Argrath White Bull he also received directed training towards Illumination at the House of Black Arkat a few magically charged encounters between them and powerful draconic manifestations (negotiating Argan Argar Equal Exchanges with dragonewt priests and dream dragons) advanced their progress toward Illumination even further. That same character actually accomplished their illumination through contemplation in a refurbished Storm Age dragonewt meditation chamber during Sacred Time. i wou
  9. Makes you wonder how many times the villain's title has changed in the telling, if this myth dates back to the Hittites.
  10. This is a terrible thing to say of the people without whom Glorantha quite simply would not have survived the Greater Darkness, or probably the First Age either. Xiola Umbar weeps at the base prejudice and ingratitude of the fathers of Gbaji.
  11. Oh, I am delighted to hear of successful Argan Argar adventurers making unexpected friends! To speak directly to the original question, regarding potential tokens or signs of friendship: there is a historical precedent for pacts between elves and trolls, connected to Argan Argar. How much do you know about the Kingdom of Night, and Ezkankekko? The Shanasee Tree of Tarndisi's Grove has stood there since before the Dawn, and before the Dawn the peoples of Dragon Pass and Esrolia were united by the rule of Ezkankekko, the Only Old One, the demigod son of Argan Argar and Esrola, Ern
  12. As established earlier in the thread, there's only ever been a little Blue Moon-affiliated rune magic in official publications. That little is in Troll Gods, which has rules for the Blue Moon cult of the trolls in the Blue Moon Plateau, and it includes a spell provided to Annilla's cult by Artmal: Vesper. I workshopped that spell with one of my players, who gm's a game of their own, and this is what we came up with:
  13. Is it really a 'lie' if it's told to mere products of the Paseren?
  14. A Lunar slave, but which moon? There's a whole mess of slaves tied to the Blue Moon in Fonrit, and in addition to Seseine they provide a less, ah, malevolent option for a put-upon goddess. Afidisa was the goddess, demigoddess or heroine of the Artmali, aka Veldang, the people of the Blue Moon, who went before Pamalt Earth King of the south to petition for a place in Pamaltela for the Artmali to settle in the God Time. After she proved her power to heal and restore by rebuilding the long-ruined Camp of Innocence with just her presence and magic, Pamalt recognized the good in the Artmali
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    slightly further in this vein, does anyone know where potatoes come from/are widely cultivated in Glorantha? It came up in-session this weekend, and I just sort of assumed that tubers were a set of children Aldrya had with Lodril, so they probably come from Peloria. and of course potatoes of all kinds are up there with maize as quintessential Western Hemisphere produce, specifically the Andes Mountains.
  16. Another general question: does anyone have interesting ideas for places Artmal's bones might've come to rest in the Middle World after being defeated by 'the god of Desero' in the Gods War? I've already pointed out Fralos in Seshnela, and I think the Blue Sable Altar northeast of Pavis will be another in the campaign I'm running. Do any other sites of Blue Moon relevance stand out to the tribe as good places where the Moonson's bones might have come to rest?
  17. Yeah, go ask Entekos and the Hundred Goddesses of Pelanda just how sweet life was under Emperor Brightface, once he finished killing their sons, enslaving their daughters, stripping them of their temporal power and imprisoning them, with power they originally gave him to keep everyone safe.
  18. When did Glorantha exist before, or without, Chaos? The Chaosium is the source of primal creative power, Chaos is the infinite from which form itself arose. The trolls understand this: Bozkatang, the first true Chaos Fighter, faced and defeated the first demons born from the Chaosium long before Yelm drove the trolls aboveground. Chaos cannot be allowed to win, but it is a necessary component of the Gloranthan cosmos. Always has been.
  19. oh man, I'd really like to read The Book of the Vadeli Trader
  20. Clover, huh? I would've expected ferns. There's a lot of clover where I live, but that's pretty warm and humid generally. Get as far south as places like Zamokil though, and and I'd expect the clover to mostly be a dry yellow turf that blooms with green and blossoms when rains do eventually come, the way the real world Atacama Desert transforms into streamside meadows for a little while when it's properly watered.
  21. I don't suppose there's any description somewhere of what the Melibite and/or Teshnite contributions to raising the Boat Planet might have been? Okay. Now, since no one's ever heard of an official version of the life of Gebel, here's my taking a shot at it. For my Glorantha's purposes Gebel was born some time in the 1580s, not in Melib, but in Atarpur in central Teshnos. He was the illegitimate son of a noble-priest of Calyz high in the hierarchy of the city's temple complex to the Council of Five, and a Hsunchen slave woman of the Pujaleg people. Gebel was not acknowledged by his
  22. Isn't the Sartarite role in all that detailed in one of the HeroQuest modules?
  23. Of whatever aluminum/silver alloy Artmal's bones would be made of, at any rate. Addressing another element of the question: does anyone know biographical-level details about Gebel, the Teshnite hero who is forecast by the Guide to recover the Red Sword (or Hes-tur, or both) in cooperation with Gabaryanga? Thus far I've learned that he is a great sea-voyager, and the fact of his quest and success, but without any of the whys or hows of that story. Does anyone know of sources on his life before the Red Sword quest? Gabaryanga is almost as obscure a figure in the materials I have avai
  24. Imagine what the Zzaburi would do with all that aluminum if they could get the bone's spirit to cooperate.
  25. I think I'm going to run with the idea of a very obscure link between the Blue Moon and this Seshnelan city, on the theory that Cathora was a high-status Basmoli woman whose family were integrated into the talar aristocracy some time in the First Age. The city itself may prove to be founded over a site where one or several of Artmal's bones fell to earth after his defeat, drawn by sympathy to his wife's kin; the bone's spirit manifests as the lion-headed entity that demands only an unmarried woman of Cathora's line, the local talars, rule Fralos.
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