The Wanderer

11 hours ago, Morien said:

Mysterious Manor might work. Light on battle, heavy on talking to people. (Adjusting to the time and location, of course... No Brus sans Pitie yet.)

Thank you! In which supplement will I find it?

Apart from the White Horse what adventures do you recommend for a glorious and a squire in the 501 year? Preferably in Salisbury, as the knight is the seneschal...

Ok, than maybe I'll choose any other adventure for the knight and the squire for the return trip to Salisbury, and run a normal feast during the wedding... 🤔

4 hours ago, Tizun Thane said:

I played the cards as usual. Every time an opportunity arised, I used one of the NPC and role played the encounter

I think I'll make some minor changes in the NPCs because I have two players and one of them is a squire of the other one. Any suggestions or recommendations?

On 6/22/2021 at 4:18 AM, Voord 99 said:

The APP roll does not affect your seating.  You sit where you sit: knights sit with knights, as they are supposed to.  If you’re seated wrongly, that’s a matter of a failed (or more likely, fumbled) Stewardship roll of the person organizing the feast.  However, mechanically, the APP roll has the same effect as in the BoF, by giving you a bonus on Geniality or, if unfortunate a minus.  It represents, not where you sit, but whether or not people are paying attention to you admiringly in the context of where you sit.  The only difference is that, unless you are sitting at high table (because that’s where you should sit), you can draw cards, and if you are sitting at high table, you have an automatic +1 on top of this.  The APP roll is APP modified by Glory, which makes criticals a bit more common, but as there’s no “winning the feast,” the main effect is that it makes other rolls easier, if they’re modified by Geniality.  It makes a difference e.g. if you’re trying to loosen tongues to make an Intrigue roll to find out some plot-important information late in the feast — it’s not terribly important in itself, although in a five round royal feast a critical APP is a not too shabby 20 Glory, all other things being equal.

Then, I'm asuming you do not give bonus on Geniality for seating but you give it "only" for the APP (modified by glory) roll, right?

What do you mean with "and if you are sitting at high table, you have an automatic +1 on top of this"? Automatic +1 on what?

Also, if there's a fumble on the roll, what is the result? -1 or -2 Geniality?

On 1/31/2022 at 1:26 PM, Tizun Thane said:

I played it with the Book of Feasts, and it was a blast

How did you introduce the rules of the BoFeasts in this adventure? I'm considering running it during Morgan's wedding at 501 (I think it's easy to change things to adequate it for two players: a glorious knight and his squire.

How do you manage the "programmed death" of the NPCs? I'm asking because I don't want my players to know when their relatives are going to die, of course! Do you make secret rolls?

6 hours ago, SaxBasilisk said:

I wouldn't do it, either - maybe charging everyone 1 Librum per Salisbury estate. I don't feel so bad about it - the group not only rebuilt the walls of Sarum, but built three fortresses (two practically in the spots the BotW suggests), so I feel as if they've paid plenty.

Let's not forget it's not just Robert's knighting they need to pay for during Anarchy - it's Jenna's dowry as well.

Maybe I'll do that, taking their DF seems painful enough, considering the tributes during these ages.

When does lady Jenna marry?

1 hour ago, Morien said:

Faerie-related adventures might work well, since they tend to rely more on traits than skills, and this would even the playing field between the Glorious Knight and the Squire.

What do you think (as you recommended not to use the Savage Forest during the Anarchy) to run some adventures related to the Forest of Gloom/Glamour? Maybe taking advantage of Glorious Knight being an officer of Salisbury (seneschal).

9 hours ago, creativehum said:

How long did it take game-time-wise? I'm imagining two or three years?

I ask only because it seems like I might be offering more Glory for the quest of a multi-year campaign. You get 250 Glory for killing a lion. I think this tale is worthy of more than that -- knocking down villains, bringing stability to the troubled isle, saving the sister-in-law of Duke Ulfius -- but that might be just me.

Not saying you did anything wrong! Only passing on how I see this adventure as a big deal and worthy of solid renown for pulling it off.

It took two years, I accelerated the things a bit because I want to play Morgan's wedding next year (501).

Apart from the glory (now I'm thinking it could have been more...) I rewarded them with gifted manors (one for each PK; should have been granted?), and also they became officers (seneschal and marshall) of Salisbury!

On 2/6/2022 at 11:03 PM, creativehum said:

How did it go? Anything interesting you want to share about running it?

As far as rewards go, the rules say "The object of King Arthur Pendragon is for your character to accumulate Glory."  

So, I'm curious: what Glory did they get for accomplishing the Adventure? That's what my focus would be on.

I used the campaign of lordly domains, specially the beginning but I made a lot of changes during it. For example I made the abbot of deertown offering to help and then betraying them. Also, they got help from an aunt of the usurpers who got in love with one of the PKs 🙂

Glory, they got about 500 or 600 maybe (250 for accomplishing it, the rest from combats).

34 minutes ago, Morien said:

But to bring this back to your question, you kinda shot yourself in the foot by allowing for a 50 year old uncle to start with

I allowed because the player insisted he wanted to experiment with the role of a veteran and it was fun enough, which is the main objective!

It's the end of 500, next year 501. Next year I'm planning to run the wedding of Morgan using for the first time the BoFeasts so I think it will be a nice chance for the squire to do things.

A PK died while his heir was 14 y.o. so I encouraged the player to make a kinsman to play while the heir grows.

He made a 50 y.o uncle and it was fun for all, but now some bad luck (major wounds and getting old) made his APP decrease to 3. And the heir is still 16... What to do now?

I don't want to make him play another kinsman but he wants to play the heir as squire and don't think it'll be a good idea (there are only two players in my campaign and the other one plays a 8000 glory PK). 

Also there's the issue with the servitum debitum of the manor as the old uncle can't fight but still lives and there is no knight till the heir becomes knight 😱

What do you think?

Then do they get Glory for those bonus £ as it is extra spend for the SoL? I'm using your House Rules giving them 10 glory for every £ spent on conspicuous consumption (SoL).

14 minutes ago, Morien said:

On the other hand, if they are glorious knights already, it could be that they are deserving of officerships anyway in Salisbury. Especially if they are of proven loyalty to the Countess, and having just proven their skills as commanders in Rydychan.

I read in other post that the officer's pay would be about 6L per year and that goes to the standard of living... But as they already are rich knights, could they save money (from their income) to use as discretionary funds? Or do they must spend all (% of SoL of the manor and the officer's pay bonus) for the SoL??

So, the PKs obtained the victory on the Rydychan campaign and the baroness Gwendolyn gifted them with the manor they held there (just a 10L manor).

But that seems a poor reward as they spent too much money and resouces from their private trasure so the Countess Ellen should also reward them in some way, so, what dou you think about one of these options:

a) Appoint them to be officers of Salisbury (they are two PKs, so maybe marshall and seneschal) seems appropiate as they are going to effectively rule Salisbury with the countess during the Anarchy (we are in 501).

b) Upgrade any of their manors within Salisbury from gifted to granted.

c) Giving them any valuable present during Christmass (an improved horse or anything like that).

What do you think?

How could they possibly reunite £50 from scratch?

When count Robert is knighted, do the PKs have to pay the value of their main manor (that is, £10) or the value of all of their holdings (for example if one PK has 5 manors he will pay £50 😱)??

It's working now, at least for me!

Omg the Pendragon Generator is GOLD!!! 🤩

I'm asking mainly because the BoFeasts. There is a sheet to track NPCs glory, app, courtesy flirting, intrigue, chaste, modest and temperate, I think just in case a PK has to interact with them.

I have another question regarding the Feasts: I find all the sitting preferance based on APP a bit weird... shouldn't it be based on Glory? I mean... a knight with 8000 glory and APP 5... is he going to (almost invariably) be seated below the salt?

I was going to start using the BoFeasts and after reading it, I wonder...

Do you track the stats of every NPC in your campaign? I'm a lazy GM with little time, and I feel overwhelmed with the possibility of having to track (and update every year of campaign) things like glory and skills of all the NPCs (or even "just" the important ones).

How do you manage to do this? Or don't you?

PS: for the family I just use a list of 20 NPCs and ages (posted by rcvan in the old forum) for each PK but I don't track the glory or other stats...

On 4/7/2020 at 9:27 PM, Morien said:

If not, well, wood burns when you put enough effort into it...

I was thinking... How well? I mean... How easy or difficult is to set fire to a motte and bailey castle?😄

27 minutes ago, Morien said:

You mean survival, not surveillance. 🙂

Yeah, I am pretty sure I have commented elsewhere that I think the Followers' Fate (I think that is what it is called)

Sorry for my english, it is pretty rusted 😅 aand I have the core book in spanish!

27 minutes ago, Morien said:

As for the Battle System, you will get way too high casualties by rolling Followers' Fate every battle round. The results are too high anyway for a Battle, where casualties of the order of 20% was enough to get the army to retreat.

Yes, I think we talked about this before. To do just one roll at the end of the battle.

27 minutes ago, Morien said:

The way I would do it in Battle is to tie the Followers' Fate directly to the unit commander's roll and how the PKs do in their own melee rolls. Say, for example:
PKs Triumph (i.e. all of them win their melee rolls) = 2% casualties of the whole unit (including the PKs, who of course are immune from these casualties themselves)
PKs Win = 5% casualties
PKs Lose = 10% casualties
PKs Are Crushed (i.e. all of them lost their melee rolls) = 20% casualties
If the unit commander failed the Battle roll, double the casualties. If they fumbled, triple. If they critted, half.
In the case of a 'fractional casualty', carry it over to the next round.
Half of the casualties are wounded, retreating to the Back of the Battle for First Aid in the next battle round. (If the whole unit retreats to the back of the battle, they stick with the unit and are recovered, or they can be recovered when the unit does retreat to the Back of the Battle later).
Of the other half, half are dead and the other half are captured, when fighting against civilized foes. When fighting against Saxons and the like, they are all dead.

Thank you, I like it!! If I finally use this or a slight modification I'll let you know if it works well 🙂

EDIT: I have also thought about calculating the casualties of the enemy "mirroring" the results of the PKs' Followers' Fate. Just to estimate how many prisoners and the loot.