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Please post any errors/typos spotted in The Smoking Ruin & Other Stories to this thread. Please take care to note the page number where you've noticed something!

We'll keep this tribal edit open for a week or two. We'll then review the thread and make any necessary changes to the files before sending to print.

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Page 37

It is possible if the players overthink the adventure
kickoff or choose to not gather their data while in Clearwine,
they may be operating without Daravala’s deadline.

-         -  could this sentence be made clearer? [it might just be that I failed my Read roll here]

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No one is sure, but stories exist of a battle when

Vamargic’s trolls met Braineater’s forces on the slopes

just south of the settlement and slaughtered them.

-          -- Better explains who slaughtered who?

 

 

No one knows what happened to Braineater;

according to the stories she and her force seem to

have disappeared.

-          Braineater was female (Trollpak page 28)

 

 

Page 41

famous singer and to use her highly developed social skills to gain Reputation.

 

 

Page 42

 (Donandar, see sidebar above),

Harmonise (1 pt., see above), and Switch Places (2 pts., see above).

 

 

Items with an asterisk are enhanced with an Armoring Enchantment,

-         -- Armouing Enchantment is currently unavailable in RQG (page 435)

 

Spirit Combat Damage: 1D6+1

-         --   POW+CHA = 29 

Spirit Magic: Befuddle (2 pt.), Demoralize (2 pt.), Healing 2.

 

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Snake Pipe Hollow à Snakepipe Hollow

 

 

Page 46

INT 13 POW 18 CHA 17

-        --   Correct sequence

 

 

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Armor: Heavy scale hauberk (5 pts.), closed helm (5 pts.), bronze greaves (6 pts.), vambraces (6 pts).

-- Assuming right side is bronze and the left one unenchanted iron 

Magic Points: 64 (18 + 46 with...

-- Allied (19); Bound spirit (16); Power crystal (11)

Page 47

Treasures: Ironshort sword (not enchanted), iron left vambrace (not enchanted). Possession of these in their unattuned state reduces her chance to cast magic by –15% and has a 15% chance magic do not work on her.

- A bronze vambrace  has an ENC of 2 

Sora Goodseller’s Hit Locations

Right Arm   6/5

Left Arm     6/5

Head          5/6 

 

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Page 53

When it returns to Treya, it is weighty with praise expressed in the form of Lunar silver.

-- Are they still using Lunar coins at this point in time?

Page 54

The adventurers may have to scramble to get Daravala the price estimates she
desires, as Sora certainly is of no help.

-- At this point of the scenario, what does this mean?

 

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Spirit Combat Damage: 1D6+1

Page 66

They leave the adventurers alone if they simply pass through the valley.

Spirit Combat Damage: 1D6+1

Page 72 

She wants nothing more than to get inside the citadel walls, but she is not be foolhardy or puts anyone’s life at risk.

-- Rephrase?

Page 73

The outer walls of the ruins are about 10 to 12 meters tall,

Page 79

Hombadaka Boko was a troll settlement during the Dawn Age, over a thousands and thousands of years ago.

Page 83

part of Braineater’s troops, and have the markings of her troops

Page 85

to join Kyger Litor in Hell.

Page 90 (x3 occasions)

 Hell

Page 90

She was originally a priestess of Kyger Litor

Page 91 

These are mainly children’s toys: dolls, small clay soldiers, bits of doll clothing, etc.

-- Not very trollish??

Page 92

One-Eye Bugleg

Add CHA score?

 

General Point

Are you really sure One-Eye Bugleg was a trollkin? 

 

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p.67 (A Minotaur at Prayer)

the minotaur explains in halting Tradetalk that Kero Fin is the mother of Verhala Velhara, the Lady of the Beasts, as well as the mother of Orlanth,

 

p68

Clatterhoof
Initiate of Verhala. Velhara

p.68

The adventurers have not spoken to Ereneva, breaking
their promise to Daravala to keep their mouths shut
about their destination.

Telling how it is excessive verbis

 

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There are  three different spellings of Shanasee in the book:

The most popular is Shanassee with 7, although not in the index. The Guide agrees that this is the correct spelling.

Shanasee, once -  page 167

Shanaesee, two -  page 4 and page 192 (index)

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Three items on Page 81:

"The troll spirits’ movement is only be choreographed
if One-Eye is nearby, directing their dance."

Remove word in bold

 

"The gamemaster should determine which by
considering the way the adventurers gained entrance, whether
they encountered One-Eye, and whether is she escorting the
adventurers into the Ruin"

Words in bold in wrong order

 

"In any settlement area (with the grey background on the
map) it perpetually gloomy, humid and smoke filled"

Insert 'is' after word in bold

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Can you please standardised the Stats Blocks "Rune Spells: " sections for each character to keep it consistent within the book and with the GM Pack Adventure Book.

After "Rune Spells:"   Delete" All common knowledge spells," or "All common Rune spells," or "All common knowledge Rune spells "     AND      Delete all (x pt.) AND the numbers after the spells, for example:

Page 17 

Rune Spells: All common knowledge spells, plus Charisma (1 pt.), Clever Tongue (1 pt.), Draw Beast (1 pt.).

Change to

Rune Spells: Charisma, Clever Tongue, Draw Beast.

 

Page 20

Rune Spells: All common knowledge spells, plus Flight (1 pt.), Leap (1 pt.), Mist Cloud (1 pt.), Shield 2, Wind Words (1 pt.).

Change to

Rune spells: Flight, Leap, Mist Cloud, Shield, Wind Words.

 

Page 152 

Rune Spells: All common knowledge Rune spells plus Fearless (2 pt.), Shield 2.

Change to

Rune Spells: Fearless, Shield.

 

Page 175

Rune Spells: All common Rune spells plus Create Ghost (1 pt.), Create Skeleton (1 pt.), Mindblast (2 pts.), Sever Spirit (non-reusable, 3 pts.), Summon Small Lune (1 pt.), Summon Medium Lune (2 pts.).

Change to

Rune Spells: Create Ghost, Create Skeleton, Mindblast, Sever Spirit (non-reusable, 3 pt.), Summon Small Lune, Summon Medium Lune.

 

 

Do FIND "Rune Spells: All"  to capture all these 

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Warrior of the Iron Dwarf caste Appears male, age 320.

Skills: Battle 30%,

--- Probably should be a higher value

Iron Dwarf Hit Locations

If the armour is unenchanted iron then drop the Hit Point Location values to

6/5

6/5

7/5

6/6

6/4

6/4

6/5

The weapons are also unenchanted iron, so

1H Hammer, Iron    PTS 10

Battle Axe, Iron    PTS 8

 

Page 179

Dark Season 1629

Lists three sets of trolls (Dark, Great, Trollkin) each giving written text describing a singular character, then listing a "Typical" type, i.e. "Typical Dark Troll Foot Warrior". Can you please match the text and headers so they are consistent?

 

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"Ultimately, her goals are become an expert
in History of the Dawning"

Insert 'to' and 'the' respectively, after words in bold

Page 47

"While this could true, the real reason he was eavesdropping"

Insert 'be' after word in bold

Page 53

"Thus, it not out of the question that Treya might flirt"

Replace word in bold with 'it's'

"The gamemaster’s goal is make sure the adventurers"

Insert 'to' after the word in bold

Page 54

"her grandmother’s many encounters encounter
with Tuskers"

Word repeated erroneously

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P.39

The Beast Men left the corpses to rot, but before they left, they hired a nearby Grazer clan to help them erect a memorial to those Beast Men who died in the fight.

Nice try to get the Grazers involved in this, but this battle takes place 28 years before the Battle of Alavan Argay which was the end of the Pure Horse Folk of Prax and started the Grazer history.

The Inhuman Occupation was still intact, there were no Grazers nearby, or any other humans except possibly Hiia Swordsman or the Puppeteers, or Isidilian's human slaves crewing the Cannon Cult and the Alchemical Transformer.

If there is to be Grazer involvement in this monument, the centaurs may have asked them for their help after the adoption of the Pure Horse Folk, three decades later, when the pyres had long been set on fire.

But then I doubt that the nomadic Pure Horse Folk of Prax had any skill in masonry - those who might had switched to striped mounts and were the (not yet quite exiled or trapped) zebra rider nobility in Pavis, beset by the Beast Riders.

 

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Telling how it is excessive verbis

 

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2 hours ago, Joerg said:

Nice try to get the Grazers involved in this, but this battle takes place 28 years before the Battle of Alavan Argay which was the end of the Pure Horse Folk of Prax and started the Grazer history.

These might be the earlier horse people who find a loophole through association with Ironhoof, then are later assimilated into the "vendref" who preserve eyewitness accounts. The un-stitched bipedal line of Harfraftos. Modern people would just see "grazers."

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p.87

protect a hand-sized shard of silvered glass

On the same page, the boxed text describes the item nicely Bronze-Agey as

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a highly polished shard of copper in the shape of a disk with a small handle protruding from the bottom,

No glass involved, silver optional.

 

That description of the depiction on the rear is of course a temporal paradox - the item is exchanged at the Wedding of the deities, whereas the transmogrification of Ginna Jar into the recipient of the item is the reward for the LBQ on the cusp of Time. This means that this item might be a heroquest reward of a re-enactment of the original wedding, with the physical component provided by the (undoubtedly royal) quester rather than the God Time original.

That's fine as far as holy relics go, but it is B-grade, a very powerful copy.

 

The boxed text also has "Violence is always an alternative" in the second repetition, rather than "Violence is always an option". Please amend this to option, as this is a catch-phrase, and the point of it is that Orlanth doesn't even consider alternatives until getting repeat demonstrations.

 

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Telling how it is excessive verbis

 

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2 hours ago, Joerg said:

p.87

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The boxed text also has "Violence is always an alternative" in the second repetition, rather than "Violence is always an option". Please amend this to option, as this is a catch-phrase, and the point of it is that Orlanth doesn't even consider alternatives until getting repeat demonstrations.

 

But that's exactly how the How Peace Was Made myth is displayed (printed) in King of Sartar (regardless which edition you use) ...

So either this has been misquoted from the beginning or there is some meaning in this wording ...

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