ChrisJ Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Currently the rules only list minimum STR and Dex to use a weapon - but surely the size of the wielder has some bearing. I was creating a Humakti Drulz the other day and while the character had the minimum STR and DEX to use a greatsword it didn't seam reasonable that a 1m tall creature would be able to walk around let alone use a 1.5m long sword. But currently RQG has no minimum size to use a weapon. Should a Size 4 Drulz be able to wield a greatsword? CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumuzid Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 that's a good question. on the one hand real-world humans have wielded pikes 3x+ their own height in great numbers; on the other hand, those are pikes, not solid swords. you're talking about the equivalent of 3m long sword in the hands of a 2m tall human, and that would be...I dunno, Sephiroth's sword? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherVingan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Currently the rules only list minimum STR and Dex to use a weapon - but surely the size of the wielder has some bearing. I was creating a Humakti Drulz the other day and while the character had the minimum STR and DEX to use a greatsword it didn't seam reasonable that a 1m tall creature would be able to walk around let alone use a 1.5m long sword. But currently RQG has no minimum size to use a weapon. Should a Size 4 Drulz be able to wield a greatsword? CJ Yes, for the laughs. One of my favourite D&D characters was a Halfling barbarian called Pippi Longknife who wielded a longsword in two hands. Would've been a lot more fun if the rules had let her use a greatsword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaz Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChrisJ said: Should a Size 4 Drulz be able to wield a greatsword? Friend of mine is a fellow HEMA practitioner who happens to be on the small side. Also can bench press 2.5 times their body weight and has no issues with Big Weapons. No. ps My Great Sword is the lightest fastest weapon I own and I own, use and teach many. NO. pps Also my Neighbour Ruth Tolkein and a rather large sword. NO. More Nope with Nope on Edited February 25, 2020 by Thaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @soltakss tell them about the pixies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 Sounds reasonable - I'll just be a little more inventive when it comes to interpreting fumble rolls Plus for my Size 4 Drulz NPC - I have added a bearer/squire responsible for carrying said Greatsword - should add some humorous interactions - after all that's the point of Drulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaz Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 If he can pick it up, he can use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 10 hours ago, PhilHibbs said: @soltakss tell them about the pixies Yes, please! Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 hours ago, PhilHibbs said: @soltakss tell them about the pixies Grandpa, tell us about the pixies !!! Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Although blindingly obvious once I'd seen it - I watched a youtube video last night where two violinists played all of the different sizes of violin available. From standard to 1/32 (for three year olds). It would mean that weapons could be made for different sizes. A greatsword for a duck would be a short sword and one for a pixie would be a dagger. Smaller weapons could be made in the same style as their normal size ones, but just do less damage. Likewise weapons for larger creatures. A Giant's greatsword could perhaps do 2D10 or 2D12 damage. Wasn't that why Bilbo's sword was in fact an elvish dagger. 1 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, David Scott said: Although blindingly obvious once I'd seen it - I watched a youtube video last night where two violinists played all of the different sizes of violin available. From standard to 1/32 (for three year olds). It would mean that weapons could be made for different sizes. A greatsword for a duck would be a short sword and one for a pixie would be a dagger. Smaller weapons could be made in the same style as their normal size ones, but just do less damage. Likewise weapons for larger creatures. A Giant's greatsword could perhaps do 2D10 or 2D12 damage. Wasn't that why Bilbo's sword was in fact an elvish dagger. The weapons will scale a bit differently. A "greatsword" scaled down to pixie-size would approximate a letter-opener, la bit like a misericorde; I suspect the pixie-greatsword blade would be a bit thicker than that (more dagger-like, as you say). But IMHO you're envisioning an awfully-dinky "Giant" if you're considering 2d12 damage. Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirinyaga Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 actually, it's not that simple physics characteristics don't scale linearly with the size. The weight and the momentum will be 8 times bigger if you double the size, for example. The rigidity will scale yet differently (to the square I guess), etc ... Anyway, no, a greatsword for a duck won't be really a short sword, neither will a long sword for a duck be equivalent to a 3 meters long sword for a human, it's something in between and totally different for a duck than for a pixie because it's not linear to the size (famously, an ant can bear 100 times or more its own weight). I think using STR & DEX requirements only is probably a very good approximation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaz Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, kirinyaga said: I think using STR & DEX requirements only is probably a very good approximation. Exactly. Siz has nothing to do with it. If the Pixie has sufficient Strength and Dex they can use it. It might look weird as heck and I'd assume to do so they are using str boosting magic...but hey this is Glorantha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirinyaga Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Well, technically, you need to also look at the ratio weapon weight/user weight. Else, even with a lot of STR, instead of moving the weapon, you'll be moving yourself. But that will only matter for a pixie using a long sword or a human trying to use a tree like a club. Now, in a magical world like Glorantha, it's probably fine. The respective ENC will also be different : a duck moving around a long sword will find it very impractical. But, to a duck, the sword ENC is already proportionally bigger, as his wearable ENC will be lower than human's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaz Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, kirinyaga said: The respective ENC will also be different : a duck moving around a long sword will find it very impractical. But, to a duck, the sword ENC is already proportionally bigger, as his wearable ENC will be lower than human's. ENC is about strength. Carrying great weapons about is never easy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 7:23 AM, g33k said: Grandpa, tell us about the pixies !!! http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=362253&sid=0c779a876075b15c271405dec18550c2#p362253 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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