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21 hours ago, Jeff said:

If people are going to suggest that specific elements are (Kultain, Jar-eel elevating Pharandros, etc.), please cite from the Guide, Sourcebook, or RQ book that you think we are contradicting. Please do NOT cite from HQ materials, HW materials, or forum posts. 

Thanks for clarifying that the Sourcebook is considered a source for the RQG branch of the now split Gloranthan canon. 

Though the now deliberate inconsistency between HQG and RQG canon annoys me, as you have no doubt gathered, its good to know which is which. Though RQG canon already has differences to Sourcebook canon in any case. 

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29 minutes ago, davecake said:

Thanks for clarifying that the Sourcebook is considered a source for the RQG branch of the now split Gloranthan canon. 

Though the now deliberate inconsistency between HQG and RQG canon annoys me, as you have no doubt gathered, its good to know which is which. Though RQG canon already has differences to Sourcebook canon in any case. 

David - there is not a split canon. There is a Chaosium canon moving forward.

As an aside the Sourcebook is written as a collection of in-Gloranthan documents, and WILL be contradicted from time to time cheerfully. I just need to know where I have done so inadvertently. And the answer appears to be less frequently than assumed.

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11 hours ago, Jeff said:

David - there is not a split canon. There is a Chaosium canon moving forward.

As an aside the Sourcebook is written as a collection of in-Gloranthan documents, and WILL be contradicted from time to time cheerfully. I just need to know where I have done so inadvertently. And the answer appears to be less frequently than assumed.

Does this mean that any future HQG material will align with RQG canon?

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On 5/11/2020 at 8:54 AM, Jeff said:

If people are going to suggest that specific elements are (Kultain, Jar-eel elevating Pharandros, etc.), please cite from the Guide, Sourcebook, or RQ book that you think we are contradicting. Please do NOT cite from HQ materials, HW materials, or forum posts. 

Jar-eel elevating Pharandros: Sourcebook p.22, 30, mentions the interaction of Jar-eel with Moirades siring Phargentes II. Pharandros became king, but is that an elevation, or just inheritance?

The Kultain are mentioned in the RQG rules (p.109 says the Olontongi tribe was formed in1624 from the ruins of the Kultain and Sylangi tribes). As of 1621 or so, the Guide names the Kultain as guardians of the Derensev library (p.251).

The statement in RQG p.28 is that "most clans are exogamous". The Ulandrings/Greyrocks must be one of the exceptions, then.

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p114 - 12 meters (7 yards) -> 12m is about 13 yards.

p117 - The outside of each spire is approximately the same: roughly 12 meters (7 yards) tall and 100 meters (109 yards)...  The spires are tall and thin, and probably about 6m across at the base, but on the outside of a 100m circle.  This needs making clear.  Again, 12m = 13 yards.

p124 Throngee promises to 'trade up to two points of spirit magic' but this is an Etyries ability - he can trade Rune Spells, but only with Priests.  Is this a thing that the Issarian Temple can do?

p131: "is Marara's own" -> "is Maharo's own"

p138 "refrain from killing Jongar the Impala prince" -> "refrain from killing Maharo the Impala prince,"

p154 "but he's grateful Orlanthi gave" - "but he's grateful Orlanth gave"

p154 The map key has 5 as 'Ernalda Temple' but in the text this is 'The Old Hall'.  The alignment on the 8 and the 10 on the map seems out.  The numbers there seem different sizes.  Tamper's Well is in the middle of a square, not along a main road.

Things specific to Crimson Petals, which I have therefore been able to go through much more closely.  Apologies for some of these:

p 70 Yeresta offered around potions that would guarantee sons or daughters, increase[-d] fertility, and strengthen the[-ir] libido.

p70 Kallinda/Kalinda - different spellings.  Kalinda -> Kallinda in right column paragraph 2.

p71 Harel the Dull: Reverse order of sentences 'He is 30-year-old initiate of the farming god Barntar. Notable skills are Fast Talk 45% and Orate 40%.' to give consistency with other descriptions.  Add indefinite article. 'Notable skills are Fast Talk 45% and Orate 40%. He is a 30-year-old initiate of the farming god Barntar.'

p72 'crops could have died before maturing, or just fail to grow' -> 'crops could have died before maturing, or just failed to grow'

p73 'greeted by the village’s chieftain, Kanarg' - His stat block calls him Chieftain of the Clan.  -> "Clan's chieftain"

p73 Kanarg has his Rune Spells twice.  He's good but not that good.

p74 'when not in practice on a raid' -> 'when not in practice or on a raid'

p74 'He is the war leader of the village' -> 'He is the war leader of the clan'

p75 Bad logic in sentence structure. 'They are united in thinking his wife Jeninda deceived him, but all of them have some remnants of honor.//Still, they have honor where he does not;... -> 'All of them have some remnants of honor, but they are united in thinking his wife Jeninda deceived him.//Still, they have honor where he does not'

p77 As mentioned above, Senela has double Rune Spells.  The lower set seems to be the correct one.

p78 Lay Member of Barntar - Orlanthi seem to be Initiates more often than not.  The Rune Options give some balanced Runes at 50%.

p79 Minstar's father is described elsewhere as an officer.  'His father was a passing Lunar' -> 'It is known his father was a Lunar'

p 79 Jena is usually very quiet but also ambitious and talks for Karlag...  'Jena is passionate about learning and getting things correct.//Talented with tally sticks, usually very quiet.' -> 'Jena is passionate about learning and getting things correct. She is talented with tally sticks, and confident about herself.'

p80 the Child Ring probably don't have access to spirit magic, but might be able to access items that have it, in their households.  The Rune options give some balanced Runes at 50%.

p81 Yeresta's 2nd para.  Move 'if challenged' sentence to end of paragraph.

p81 'As well as dealing with any number of the spirits, the adventurers must deal with Rastip...'  This paragraph appears to belong at the end of Crisis and Resolution, p83.

 

 

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p83 under Divination: 'worshipper' -> 'worshiper'

UK spelling -> US spelling

p92 'sources fresh water' -> sources of fresh water

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4 hours ago, Diana Probst said:

p114 - 12 meters (7 yards) -> 12m is about 13 yards.

p117 - The outside of each spire is approximately the same: roughly 12 meters (7 yards) tall and 100 meters (109 yards)...  The spires are tall and thin, and probably about 6m across at the base, but on the outside of a 100m circle.  This needs making clear.  Again, 12m = 13 yards.

This raises the question as to why any references to yards are needed.  I thought RQG used metric (vs. HQG not using it).

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p9 'four genders and six sexes' -> 'four sexes and six genders'.

p65 'See Into the Lake (Reducks) on page 17.' -> 'See Into the Lake (Reducks) nearby.'  p17 is Pegasus Plateau Art.

p79 'bond of a fatherless children' -> bond of [-a] fatherless children

p84 guilt (and red blotches) -> guilt, covered in red blotches

p96 "Skuk's Hit Locations" -> Sku[l]k's Hit Locations' on hit locations title.

p96 'failure meaning it has taken two hours instead of one. If no one has this skill, no attempt is made.' - does this mean that if there are no Storm Bulls in the party, success is automatic?

p108 'nothing dangerous lives in these warrens.' -> 'nothing dangerous lives in these caverns.'  (The warrens, from the paragraph below, are indeed dangerous.)

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9 hours ago, jajagappa said:

This raises the question as to why any references to yards are needed.  I thought RQG used metric (vs. HQG not using it).

We provide Imperial/US customary units of measurement for our readers in the UK and US, free of charge. 

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19 hours ago, Diana Probst said:

p124 Throngee promises to 'trade up to two points of spirit magic' but this is an Etyries ability - he can trade Rune Spells, but only with Priests.  Is this a thing that the Issarian Temple can do?

Throngee promises to 'train up to two points of spirit magic'

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p49

"See The Return of the Grey Crane sidebar (below)." - The sidebar is actually titled The Grey Crane Returns and is directly above that sentence.

p 92

"He marked out the walls of the city using the old magic and called forth Sartar to watch over the new." It feels like a word was dropped there, maybe city?

"The Prince’s masons build the fine stone walls that surround Alone" should be built

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Anla Renekot(s.143) & Escatar Oval-Noova(s.144) Move Quietly -60% & -85%.

Rulebook s.216 Move Quietly:

This indication shows how much
the armor subtracts from an adventurer’s Move
Quietly skill. When several different types of
armor are worn, use the noisiest as the modifier.
Do not add all the different types together

 

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7 minutes ago, Jason Durall said:

An updated version has just gone up on the Chaosium and DTRPG sites. 

You guys are really quick with fixes. I just downloaded v1.01. Thanks.

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On 5/15/2020 at 9:11 AM, Jason Durall said:

An updated version has just gone up on the Chaosium and DTRPG sites. 

For entirely selfish reasons :- Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot. 

 

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On 5/15/2020 at 1:11 AM, Jason Durall said:

An updated version has just gone up on the Chaosium and DTRPG sites. 

Thanks for the heads up!   I would actually be super super super awesome if we had a few sticky threads here on BRP, or some page over at Chaosium.com, that somehow communicated when PDF files get updated.

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On 5/15/2020 at 4:11 PM, Jason Durall said:

An updated version has just gone up on the Chaosium and DTRPG sites. 

Thank you. 

In future, would it be possible to put the revision number inside the file somewhere, besides in the file name ? (on the credit or copyright page for example)

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p.90-91 Jafoska should have 12 HP (+1 from SIZ). Disorder and Harmony add to over 100%. It's odd that she & Baran know Sleep, since it's a spell restricted to the Chalana Arroy cult. In the sub-header, Jafoska is "outcast" but Baran is "lapsed" (don't know whether or not that's intentional). Slow isn't included as one of Jafoska's spells (she has a matrix for it). Baran's spirit combat damage should be 1D6.

p91 Rhand column, missing comma after "Hide 40%"

p101 Rhand column Typical Wicked Duck, typo "Multimissle". Magic points don't match POW. SIZ+STR=17, so no damage bonus (instead of –1D4).

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On 5/17/2020 at 10:36 AM, davecake said:

Thank you. 

In future, would it be possible to put the revision number inside the file somewhere, besides in the file name ? (on the credit or copyright page for example)

We begin updating revision numbers when the file goes to press. Version control gets a little hinky when we're dealing with versions that haven't gone to press yet, and we're not eager to have a print version that begins at anything other than 1.0. 

 

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