Jape_Vicho Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 This is just a silly idea I had this morning, as I have been reading a lot of things gloranthan, mainy the Prince of Sartar comick and some lore about the lands west of dragon pass, but, is it possible that Belintar was a Brythini/malkioni? I don't get the exact difference between the two yet, are all non-human or only the brythini?. But the thing is, Belintar, an odd and mysterious fellow of blue skin and inmense magic power that arrives from the sea... Also the thing about needing to possess new bodies after the current one decays looks like a way of solving the ever-feared death for a brythini that broke his caste's codes and this lost his immortality. I have looked on the internet but no forum or wiki seems to make a connection between the two, so either it is a very stupid idea or an innovative breakthrough, most probably the former, but I wanted to know what some people that really know about the lore thought about it as it can get a bit frustrating to just read from the authors and I don't personally know anyone this deep in the lore. Cheers. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Eyh man, that's not a dumb theory at all! I'm sure some people will find reasons to dismiss it, but I don't know any particular reason why it'd be impossible. The blue skin might only be a PoS comic thing, I'm not sure if Belintar's "true form" is ever revealed in other media, and blue skin is of course present in other groups as well (some Orlanthi with Helering ancestry, and the Veldang of Pamaltela, though they'd look like sub-saharan Africans to us, I believe, and probably other groups), but again, it's a deliberate mystery who he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, Sir_Godspeed said: The blue skin might only be a PoS comic thing, I'm not sure if Belintar's "true form" is ever revealed in other media, He appears similarly in the Guide although his skin there is said to be bronze. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leingod Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 hours ago, metcalph said: He appears similarly in the Guide although his skin there is said to be bronze. I mean, according to Homer, the color of the sea can be described as "bronze." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Jape_Vicho said: This is just a silly idea I had this morning, as I have been reading a lot of things gloranthan, mainy the Prince of Sartar comick and some lore about the lands west of dragon pass, but, is it possible that Belintar was a Brythini/malkioni? It's possible, given that New Malkonwal may not have been very far away before it vanished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borygon Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Belinthar being a god learner superweapon is a pretty common theory. 15 hours ago, Leingod said: I mean, according to Homer, the color of the sea can be described as "bronze." We probably shouldnt trust a blind men on truthfully describing what color something is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) I believe it was the sky that was bronze. The sea was wine colored, if I recall correctly. (All due to the Greeks lacking a specific word for blue.) Edited July 10, 2020 by Sir_Godspeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape_Vicho Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Borygon said: Belinthar being a god learner superweapon is a pretty common theory. We probably shouldnt trust a blind men on truthfully describing what color something is. Superweapon in that it was a creation of the god-learners, not one of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Sir_Godspeed said: (All due to the Greeks lacking a specific word for blue.) http://kiwihellenist.blogspot.com/2020/05/ancient-greek-colours.html to avoid any digression. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowglass Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I think you have a plausible theory there. To clear up the Malkioni vs. Brithini question, the Brithini are immortals who adhere to strict caste laws, and don’t recognize gods as worthy of worship. “Malkioni” is more of an umbrella term for all Westerners in Glorantha, including the Brithini. They recognize the Invisible God over all others, and practice some kind of caste system. They are all technically human, but the Brithini are so weird and ancient that they seem inhuman to others. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Sadique Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 10:49 PM, Jape_Vicho said: This is just a silly idea I had this morning, as I have been reading a lot of things gloranthan, mainy the Prince of Sartar comick and some lore about the lands west of dragon pass, but, is it possible that Belintar was a Brythini/malkioni? I don't get the exact difference between the two yet, are all non-human or only the brythini?. But the thing is, Belintar, an odd and mysterious fellow of blue skin and inmense magic power that arrives from the sea... Also the thing about needing to possess new bodies after the current one decays looks like a way of solving the ever-feared death for a brythini that broke his caste's codes and this lost his immortality. I have looked on the internet but no forum or wiki seems to make a connection between the two, so either it is a very stupid idea or an innovative breakthrough, most probably the former, but I wanted to know what some people that really know about the lore thought about it as it can get a bit frustrating to just read from the authors and I don't personally know anyone this deep in the lore. Cheers. Good idea, something very similar has been mentionned in the past but not so exploited a Brithini or John Carter Warlord of Mars. It was in RuneQuest Con Compendium p72. Audience : I always thought the Pharaoh was a refugee God Learner, like Delecti was a refugee E. W.F.Nick Brooke : Oh, yeah, he could be. I've heard Greg say that he was a heroquester, maybe from the past. A First or Second Age Heroquester who screwed up on the Heroplane, as many do, and got chucked out at the wrong place. My pet theory is that he's John Carter, Warlord of Mars ... Or, the alternative is that he's a Blue Vadeli. He comes from the sea. He's got this very nasty thing he does with other people's bodies. That's a very Vadeli kind of way to behave. A Heroquester will be more Canon but I really like the John Carter Warlord theory. But a lost Malkioni Sorcerer from the Outer Atomic Explorers could be a good choice... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermet Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I'm also tempted to say he was the Man of Gold who taught / controlled the Vaybeti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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