tooley1chris 689 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) Not really too familiar with Gloranthra or RQ so I'm wondering how compatible this books "moreย than 500 spells" would be with Magic World? Edited January 12 by tooley1chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soltakss 4,698 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 The magic system in Magic World is different, from what I recall. There was a BRP supplement that had RQ3-style magic (The Magic Book) and the Red Book of Magic is compatible with that. However, looking at Magic World sorcery, there is nothing to stop you taking the spells from the red Book of Magic and just using them as Magic World sorcery. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDLeary 450 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Soltakss is correct. Should be able to be used... however I would suggest a test run before actual use in a campaign. SDLeary 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simlasa 396 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 500 spells is a lot of spells... are they actually all that unique from each other or are they slight variations... 'speak to plant', 'speak to rock', 'speak to squirrel', 'speak to dog', 'speak to cat'? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soltakss 4,698 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 31 minutes ago, Simlasa said: 500 spells is a lot of spells Not really, the Book of Doomย has over 600 spells! 33 minutes ago, Simlasa said: are they actually all that unique from each other or are they slight variations... 'speak to plant', 'speak to rock', 'speak to squirrel', 'speak to dog', 'speak to cat'? There is some of that in the Red Book of Magic, for example there are 6 versions of Speak With () and 25 Summon spells. For theย Book of Doom, I tried to makeย as many spells as possible generic versions, so that the 600 spells are really 600 spells without many duplications. You should get both the Red Book of Magic and theย Book of Doom, but I might be biased. ย 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rsanford 468 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) So I preface this by saying that I know nearly nothing about RuneQuest. Are the spells in the red book and the doom book demarcated by tribe or by God? It it envisioned that any sorcerer could have a large number of these spells or it it meant to limit theย sorcerer / cleric to just the spells of a certain tribe, cult, religion? Edited January 14 by rsanford Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DreadDomain 324 Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 5 hours ago, soltakss said: Not really, the Book of Doomย has over 600 spells! For theย Book of Doom, I tried to makeย as many spells as possible generic versions, so that the 600 spells are really 600 spells without many duplications. Are rune spells in BoD associated with Runes? Are they associated with gods/cults? 2 hours ago, rsanford said: Are the spells in the red book and the doom book remarked by tribe or by God? It it envisioned that any sorcerer could have a large number of these spells or it it meant to limit theย sorcerer / cleric to just the spells of a certain tribe, cult, religion? There are a few different magic systems in RQ, Rune Magic, Spirit Magic and Sorcery. The RBoM only covers Rune Magic and Spirit Magic, not sorcery. To keep it simple, access to rune spells are limited in two ways. First, to access rune spells, you need to beย part of a cult and each cults will have access to a number of spells. To learn a rune spell, they need to sacrifice to their god (1 POW per spell). Second, all spells are associated to 1 or several runes. To cast a spell, you need to have a % in one of the runes. Generally, trying to emulate their god, characters will have % in the runes important to the god (generally 3 runes) so they will have abilities to cast runes from their cult (if they have learned it of course). Now if you use them for Magic World sorcery, anything goes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soltakss 4,698 Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 8 hours ago, rsanford said: Are the spells in the red book and the doom book demarcated by tribe or by God? Red Book of Magic simply lists spells in alphabetical order. Book of Doom has spells in categories, either connected to a set of rules (Alchemy, Crafting, Buildings & Ships), by Elemental Rune (Darkness, Water, Earth etc.) or by Domain (Healing, Trickster, War etc.) 8 hours ago, rsanford said: It it envisioned that any sorcerer could have a large number of these spells or it it meant to limit theย sorcerer / cleric to just the spells of a certain tribe, cult, religion? They are simply resources that list spells. In my Glorantha, the spells are typically available through Sub Cults or Hero Cults, or are given as gifts on HeroQuests. I don't see sorcerers as simply being able to go out and get any spell. However, that is going to depend on the GM and how they see their world. 5 hours ago, DreadDomain said: Are rune spells in BoD associated with Runes? Yes, all Rune spells in the Book of Doom are associated with Runes, in the same way as in the RQG Rules. 5 hours ago, DreadDomain said: Are they associated with gods/cults? See above regarding how they are organised. I will eventually produce a spreadsheet showing deities and which spells they are likely to get, but these would be available through SubCults or Hero Cults. 5 hours ago, DreadDomain said: Now if you use them for Magic World sorcery, anything goes! I would expect that you would simply use the description of the spell but use the way the spell is cast from the Magic World rules. There might be some tweaks, but most spells should work fairly easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tooley1chris 689 Posted January 14 Author Report Share Posted January 14 How have I never seen the Book of Doom??? Neat! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soltakss 4,698 Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 36 minutes ago, tooley1chris said: How have I never seen the Book of Doom??? Neat! Thanks. It was only released on 11th January, so is quite new. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tooley1chris 689 Posted Thursday at 11:25 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:25 PM On 1/14/2021 at 11:23 AM, soltakss said: Thanks. It was only released on 11th January, so is quite new. And now it is mine ๐ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rsanford 468 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 19 hours ago, tooley1chris said: And now it is mine ๐ Hey Chris when you get a chance let us know how useful the book would be to Magic World GMs, please... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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