God typically worshipped by Orlanthi herders?

[RandomNumber]

Hello,

Is there a typical deity worshipped by Orlanthi herders? I was looking at RQG and saw that Ernalda is the mother of plants and animals and that animal Lore is a cult skill. However, the Herder profession write-up on p.69 doesn't mention Ernalda at all and seems to suggest that Orlanth (or maybe Yinkin?) would be the go-to for the tribes of Sartar.

Thanks,

[AndrewTBP]

Typically? Orlanth for men, Ernalda for women. 

[RandomNumber]

10 minutes ago, AndrewTBP said:

Typically? Orlanth for men, Ernalda for women. 

Thank you

[Jeff]

Orlanth or Eiritha.

[Jape_Vicho]

Voriof definitely sees much worship from sheep herders, which probably are the most common herd in sartar, even though cattle is more prestigious. 

[Darius West]

4 hours ago, Jape_Vicho said:

Voriof definitely sees much worship from sheep herders, which probably are the most common herd in sartar, even though cattle is more prestigious. 

Definitely correct.  Also Heler has often written up as being popular with shepherds.

[Akhôrahil]

Yinkin is a small cult, but overrepresented among herders.

[Scorus]

Orgorvale! 🙂

 

[svensson]

Orlanth, Uralda [Eiritha to Heortlings and Cow Mother] or Uralda's species specific subcults, Entra [Sow Mother], Isbarn [Goose Girl], Nevala [Ewe Mother]. Apparently, chickens don't get a deity 😁 And horses get Elmal, of course.

Edited May 14, 2021 by svensson

[Sir_Godspeed]

9 hours ago, svensson said:

Orlanth, Uralda [Eiritha to Heortlings and Cow Mother] or Uralda's species specific subcults, Entra [Sow Mother], Isbarn [Goose Girl], Nevala [Ewe Mother]. Apparently, chickens don't get a deity 😁 And horses get Elmal, of course.

Orlanthi "Animal Mother"-style goddesses seem to be limited to herd mammals, with Isbarn being an interesting outlier/compromise of sorts. Perhaps simply because the goose is sacred in Esrolia/Nochet. 

Presumably there are mythic entities for other domestic animals, but they might not have anything resembling an organized worship, or established mythos.

[Jeff]

10 hours ago, svensson said:

Orlanth, Uralda [Eiritha to Heortlings and Cow Mother] or Uralda's species specific subcults, Entra [Sow Mother], Isbarn [Goose Girl], Nevala [Ewe Mother]. Apparently, chickens don't get a deity 😁 And horses get Elmal, of course.

Horses get Hyalor or Hippoi, often in conjunction with Yelmalio, but sometimes alone.

[Joerg]

2 minutes ago, Jeff said:

Horses get Hyalor or Hippoi, often in conjunction with Yelmalio, but sometimes alone.

Redalda/Redaylde instead of (or alongside with) Hyalor might be an option for horse breeders, too. "One of the Red Women."

Isbarn the goose girl apparently manages all manner of domestic fowl. Other than her, Mahome might be a source of poultry magic.

Mammalian beasts should really be Storm beasts rather than associated to the Earth. Yes, they do draw sustenance from the earth, but so do poultry etc. There are no (more) domestic reptiles other than snakes or geckos for pest control. No iguanas kept for meat, or tortoises for soup.

Weirdly enough, the concept of nursing with milk or a similar secretion appears to predate even the Golden Age, at least in the humanoid appearance. Even without rule 34.

Triolina is equipped for nursing, at least in the imagery Kalin Kadiev provided us with. (Merfolk don't appear to craft any depictions.)

[David Scott]

6 hours ago, Sir_Godspeed said:

Presumably there are mythic entities for other domestic animals, but they might not have anything resembling an organized worship, or established mythos.

I think you're likely to see small/tiny animal figures on crudes shelves / in alcoves perhaps gathered around an Ernalda / Eiritha figure (think the Minoan lady with the cat on her head) with an audience of her children in various local styles:

(Silla figure)

(Cypriot Hellenistic and Roman terracottas)

referred to as mother and father (animal type). Some may have had personal experience of the horse mother, cow mother etc and so know them by their names.

Have a look at some animal mythologies across our world. You'll often find the animals with very simple names, that vary from region to region.

In the temple, they have the best figures or frescos of them in tiny detail on the walls. Children often make crude clay versions of which their parents are very proud or parents make them themselves out of bone, wood, clay, or what ever is handy. On certain holy days all the children bring their cow / sheep / whatever figure and put it on the altar so it can be blessed and brought home to look after the real animals.

[Qizilbashwoman]

Are there any places with more unusual herders in Orlanthi territories? Lesser mammoths for milk? Small dinosaurs? Deer (the first domesticated animal was the reindeer!)?

[Bill the barbarian]

17 minutes ago, Qizilbashwoman said:

the first domesticated animal was the reindeer!

Can’t find anything to corroborate that, wolf at 12,000 is the earliest I can find.

[Qizilbashwoman]

10 minutes ago, Bill the barbarian said:

Can’t find anything to corroborate that, wolf at 12,000 is the earliest I can find.

wolf is commensal, not domesticate

also, entirely missing the DO ORLANTHIS HERD DINOSAURS bit

Edited May 14, 2021 by Qizilbashwoman

[Bill the barbarian]

Of course they herd dinos, they are very loud!

But seriously, not a clue, I will answer what I know and let others make guesses on that one.

Edited May 14, 2021 by Bill the barbarian

[Jeff]

54 minutes ago, Qizilbashwoman said:

wolf is commensal, not domesticate

also, entirely missing the DO ORLANTHIS HERD DINOSAURS bit

Only the Triceratops Queen "herds" dinosaurs.

[Bill the barbarian]

1 hour ago, Qizilbashwoman said:

commensal

commensalism | kəˈmɛns(ə)lɪz(ə)m | noun [mass noun] Biology an association between two organisms in which one benefits and the other derives neither benefit nor harm.

Not sure about that Qizilbashwoman, but I shall not quibble.

[Psullie]

On 5/14/2021 at 3:22 AM, svensson said:

chickens don't get a deity

they are very early stage Dragonewts surely... 

[svensson]

2 hours ago, Psullie said:

they are very early stage Dragonewts surely... 

A very adaptable and tasty stage... MUCH better than the stringy Breaked 'newt!

[Scorus]

Just to complicate matters: Is there a goddess attached to domesticated ducks (NOT Durulz!)?

[soltakss]

7 hours ago, Scorus said:

Just to complicate matters: Is there a goddess attached to domesticated ducks (NOT Durulz!)?

Ernalda used to be associated with geese, so why not ducks as well?

[Leingod]

8 hours ago, Scorus said:

Just to complicate matters: Is there a goddess attached to domesticated ducks (NOT Durulz!)?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that, though she's titled "Goose Girl," Isbarn is generally seen as being put in charge of all domestic poultry by Ernalda. Obviously the durulz aren't domesticated animals, so they don't count.

[Qizilbashwoman]

15 hours ago, Scorus said:

Just to complicate matters: Is there a goddess attached to domesticated ducks (NOT Durulz!)?

right, like Hanuman is the patron of non-human primates, nobody is confused about why humans aren't subsumed in there