svensson Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Eff said: Honestly, another historical way of handling this would be to confiscate arms and armor and parole them, extracting promises not to raid the community for a set amount of time or similar. Or negotiating this with a local leader. Now, maybe Tusk Riders just get butchered out of hand and their corpses dumped in a ditch, etc., but it seems likely that paroles and prisoner exchanges would be used to avoid violence escalating out of control or the need for outright prison facilities in other circumstances. The reason why the ransom system exists is to limit the number of deaths in war and raiding. It's **profitable** to ransom your enemies back to their clans, and a war clan can sustain itself in the short term off the custom. However, after a certain amount of time they'll find themselves with no friends and no neighbors wealthy enough to raid for ransom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, Eff said: Now, maybe Tusk Riders just get butchered out of hand and their corpses dumped in a ditch, etc. I doubt the issue would even arise with Tusk Riders - it’s a no quarters fight, and no-one is going to either ask for or give it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwall Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 52 minutes ago, Akhôrahil said: doubt the issue would even arise with Tusk Riders - it’s a no quarters fight, and no-one is going to either ask for or give it. it could happen if the tusk raider was disabled by a chalana arroy follower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Dangerduck Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, svensson said: It's not at all uncommon in Orlanthi society for a clan chief to be out harvesting in Earth Season with the carls... the harvest is an all-hands evolution as the whole clan tries to get enough food in for the year. The societies in Westeros are feudal societies. In a feudal society, everyone is born into a social class and only rarely moves to another. Nobles are largely divorced from the wants, cares, and needs of their peasantry I think this is somewhat true, but somewhat exaggerated. The intricate web of family connections between Leika and the Chan sisters suggests a high degree of nepotism in Orlanthi Society. There are other examples. Maybe you aren't "born" into a class but there is definite "privilege". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Dangerduck Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Ironwall said: it could happen if the tusk raider was disabled by a chalana arroy follower. This is the exception that proves (or "tests") the rule. If the only way you can conceive for a Tusk Raider to be spared, is through the intercession of Chalana Arroy, then in the other cases there is no quarter or mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, Rodney Dangerduck said: I think this is somewhat true, but somewhat exaggerated. The intricate web of family connections between Leika and the Chan sisters suggests a high degree of nepotism in Orlanthi Society. There are other examples. Maybe you aren't "born" into a class but there is definite "privilege". Certainly there is a great deal of nepotism and patronage in Orlanthi society, but by and large that aristocracy is a meritorious one. If using some HQ sources like 'Eleven Lights' is any indicator, even a 'noble' who does not otherwise have a role in the clan [thane, crafter, priest, etc.] is expected to work the land... not 'manage' the land like some feudal knight, but actually work it, with a plow and bent back. This makes Orlanthi society a lot more egalitarian than the Lunars or Feudal Hrestolis farther West. Sure, you might have more hides of land and familial support, you may have nicer Gods Day clothes and drink more wine rather than beer, but the calluses on your hands and dirt under your fingernails is just as real as that of the poorest cottar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Rodney Dangerduck said: The intricate web of family connections between Leika and the Chan sisters suggests a high degree of nepotism in Orlanthi Society. There are other examples. I mean, not only is nepotism surely rampant, it’s likely considered both natural and unproblematic. Not looking after your kin is what would be unseemly! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 5/29/2021 at 6:21 PM, French Desperate WindChild said: Does a guy who decides the death of people (ok bad people but people) and cut himself their head an honorable man ? This is a job that has Humakt written all over it. Nice clean chop. Death, honor, crime, punishment. I suspect that Orlanthi, being a dueling culture, may well go in for judicial champions and trial by combat. Of course, Malia priestesses dumping plague in wells are generally dealt with a lot less ceremoniously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhôrahil Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Darius West said: This is a job that has Humakt written all over it. Nice clean chop. Death, honor, crime, punishment. Also, critically, not kin. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 hours ago, Darius West said: This is a job that has Humakt written all over it. Nice clean chop. Death, honor, crime, punishment. I suspect that Orlanthi, being a dueling culture, may well go in for judicial champions and trial by combat. Of course, Malia priestesses dumping plague in wells are generally dealt with a lot less ceremoniously. I'm sure that the local Babeester and Maran Gor Priestesses would be HAPPY to fill in if the Humakti's 'dance card' is full 😆 But yeah, between Orlanth, Humakt, and The Gor Sisters, most clans are amply supplied with executioners should it become necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohannesH Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 How about if there is a death sentence for some crimes that cannot be paid any other way, then how it is carried out? Publicly I presume, but in what way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 hours ago, svensson said: I'm sure that the local Babeester and Maran Gor Priestesses would be HAPPY to fill in if the Humakti's 'dance card' is full 😆 LOL one head or two sir? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Darius West said: LOL one head or two sir? Um, YES! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius West Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) On 1/25/2022 at 8:40 AM, svensson said: Um, YES! "Not everyone is into extreme C&BT" she says and cuts both his heads off. Edited January 27, 2022 by Darius West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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