Erol of Backford Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I have exhausted my online search trying to find a copy of the HQ Sartar Companion does anyone know where it might be found as a PDF? It doesn't appear to be on Lulu, Amazon nor any other location. Ebay has one at $125.00 which is a bit steep for me. I don't mind a PDF if its out there? At Moon Design, Drive Thru RPG, etc its not available or out of stock... Sartar Companion, by Greg Stafford and Jeff Richard, was published by Moon Design and Cubicle Seven in November, 2012. It is 296 pages in deluxe, oversize paperback. Jaja mentioned its the same book but different cover 2010 and 2012? I read through the posting "Will Coming Storm/Eleven Lights be reprinted?" and so its sounds less than promising that it will be rereleased any time soon if it does. If I missed any available PDF please send me the link, any help is appreciated! (If this is the wrong place to post this please move and let me know where to do so next time?) Does anyone think some copies may be at the upcoming Con in Michigan!? It would add to the incentive to make the trip... Thanks all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) Rumour has it we are simply waiting for it to be rebranded as a QW product now that Chaosium has relinquished the copyright to HQ. Great book so get it when it does become available again. Patience might be required though, I think it is far back in the chute Edited January 18, 2022 by Bill the barbarian 1 Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewTBP Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 You should ask in the QuestWorlds part of the site, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Duguid Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) To make it available again, they need to replace the HQ branding with QW branding, and maybe address anywhere else the HQ brand is referenced. But I guess they may not want to encourage people to buy out-of-date product where much of the content will be available and in some cases amended/expanded in the forthcoming Sartar box set. Then again, note that MOB has just put something on the Chaosium website promising that 2022 will be the year of QuestWorlds, so making some old QW products available again may tie in with that 😉 @MOB promised there would be rebranded versions in May last year: Also confirmed on a couple of occasions by @Rick Meints: As with everything else, I guess it's just a matter of priority for their resources, and I'm sure Cults of Glorantha, Sartar Box Set are higher priority. Edited January 18, 2022 by Brian Duguid fixed typo Quote -- The Voralans presents Glorantha's magical mushroom humanoids, the black elves. "Absolutely phenomenal" - Austin C. "Seriously weird-ass shit" - John D. "A great piece of work" - Leon K. The Electrum best-selling The Children of Hykim documents Glorantha's shape-changing totemic animal people, the Hsunchen. "Magisterial ... highly recommended" - Nick Brooke. "Lovingly detailed and scholarly, and fun to read" - John H. "Absolutely wonderful!" - Morgan C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The Sartar book, Pavis book, and Sartar Companion book for Questworlds should be available in a few months. We will probably have a small stock of them at Chaosium Con in April. 5 4 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiorgan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Rick Meints said: The Sartar book, Pavis book, and Sartar Companion book for Questworlds should be available in a few months. We will probably have a small stock of them at Chaosium Con in April. That's excellent news! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Is there any way to reserve a copy if we cannot attend? Excited to see/hold these books and thanks all either way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 22 hours ago, Erol of Backford said: Is there any way to reserve a copy if we cannot attend? Excited to see/hold these books and thanks all either way! What would you expect us to do with the "reserved" copy? Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 Buy it, me pay for postage? I need my Glorantha fix Mr. Meints! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 10:34 PM, Erol of Backford said: Buy it, me pay for postage? I need my Glorantha fix Mr. Meints! Anything we bring to sell at Chaosium con is going to be sold to attendees. You are welcome to have another attendee buy it and send it to you through whatever private arrangements you can set up. Unfortunately, Chaosium cannot provide such a service ourselves. Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 I guess I'll need to get to Michigan!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Is there an ETA on the announcement of general availability for the rest of us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 13 hours ago, Doug said: Is there an ETA on the announcement of general availability for the rest of us? I think we need a "Ships of the QuestWorld!" announcement. If Chaosium has a few copies, that's probably 1 case that they Air-$hipped. If they sell at cover-price, those copies probably offer little to no profit (i.e. it's promotional). But since the books ARE shipping... the other cases of them are presumably surface-shipping even as we type; but (by definition) that's the "slow boat from China." Because of potential shipping delays, customs delays, random acts of Gbaji... Chaosium doesn't like to ETA such things at this point in their transit cycle. Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartQuintessence Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Does this exend to things like Thunder rebels and Storm Tribe ( getting rebranded?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 hours ago, HeartQuintessence said: Does this exend to things like Thunder rebels and Storm Tribe ( getting rebranded?) Those are not getting rebranded. 1 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartQuintessence Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Aww so they won't be available ever again. . ? *Sigh* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godsmonkey Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 7:27 PM, HeartQuintessence said: Aww so they won't be available ever again. . ? *Sigh* Will they? Those books were published when the game was called "Hero Wars". Does it fall under the copywrite agreement of HeroQuest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 18 hours ago, godsmonkey said: It was Will they? Those books were published when the game was called "Hero Wars". Does it fall under the copywrite agreement of HeroQuest? It was explicitly named "Hero Wars" because MiltonBradley held the "Heroquest"(c) at that time; Greg grabbed the (c) for the next edition of HW when MB let the (c) lapse for their long-out-of-print boardgame. Unless the new agreement between Chaosium & MB contains explicit mention of it, I presume the HW title remains Chaosium's (until/unless they fail to re-register it, and some ambitious upstart grabs it out from under them); but honestly, the terms of that agreement are none of our business (and may even include explicit confidentiality clauses; but business-contracts aren't typically matters for public review & commentary, so...) . However... the game mechanics have changed since the HW days; and (likely more-importantly) so has the "canon" thinking at Chaosium's creative team. As they repeatedly remind us: "canon" doesn't limit what you do in your game, at your table. "Canon" only limits what Chaosium publishes... and those titles are now non-canonical. OTOH... my persnickity rules-lawyerly brain notes that @Rick Meints specifically said (above) "not getting rebranded" (i.e. they do not carry the infringing "HQ" (tm)'s, which need replacing before a reprint); he did not say they weren't getting reprinted. In the end, I think the Chaosium will look at: the sales-numbers of the original run, vs the effort needed to bring the mechanics up to QW standard & the setting up to Guide & Sourcebook standards trying to estimate the market for a "Classics" style (non-updated) offering in the model of the RQ2/RQC line. to determine if they are getting reprinted in any fashion at all (I tend to doubt it, personally: from what I have seen, they don't seem to like that era of product; but maybe Rick specifically phrased it that way to hypothetically allow for a reprint-without-rebrand "someday"). Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, g33k said: to determine if they are getting reprinted in any fashion at all Why reprint something that probably did not have high sales numbers in the first place for a game system that is not being re-released when they have similar content in the works in the planned Sartar book that would supersede, replace, or contradict that non-canonical material in those old books? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, jajagappa said: Why reprint something that probably did not have high sales numbers in the first place for a game system that is not being re-released when they have similar content in the works in the planned Sartar book that would supersede, replace, or contradict that non-canonical material in those old books? Thank you. Mostly what I said; but much more concisely said. I suspect (quite strongly) that this is much in line with Chaosium's own thinking. Edited April 8, 2022 by g33k Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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