Yorgan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 The Day brothers worked for Chaosium in the 1980's. Does anyone recognize from an old publication? The artist didn't remember which gaming company this was for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 @Rick Meints... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svensson Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I'm personally not sure if it's AD&D, RQ, Pendragon, or Tekumel. It has style elements of all four and each property has similar illustrations [a defended tower under siege] from the '75-'85 era. My wife used to be layout and typesetting professional for a major game company and I had her look at it. She doesn't recognize either the art itself nor the artists and says that the proportions are 'weird' for US standard game book dimensions. It's too large to be quarter- or half-page, and too narrow for a full page. In her opinion, it's possibly a rough draft or promotional piece of artwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorgan Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 This was also with it. Labeled 'King of the Hill' cover. Many people think that it's unlikely to be TSR or Wizards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Where are you getting these from? It's not clear if you are the artist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugen Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Scotty said: Where are you getting these from? It's not clear if you are the artist... I don't fell like he claims to be one of the "Day Brothers" he mentions in the OP. But, yes, it would be interesting to know what is his relationship with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorgan Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 I bought them from Mr. Day. He regularly sells artwork from his archives. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 These are by Gene Day's younger brother Daniel Day. I don't recognize either of these pieces. 1 1 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorgan Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Thanks. Ah well. I still think they are cool even if I don't know where they are from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Congratulations on picking up some nice pieces of art! Also: welcome to the forums! If you're into any of the BRP gaming family, this is a great site! As for the art: you might want to ask over on the Acaeum; they are pretty clued-in to all older things from TSR. If they don't know these pieces, then you might need to cast a wider net. Are any of them dated? Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Yorgan said: I still think they are cool even if I don't know where they are from. Yes, they are very cool. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentorange Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 The King of the Hill artwork is very similiar to one of the covers used on the karl Edward wagner short story collection Nightwinds: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleel Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 @Yorgan I would ask on rpgpub.net. A lot of diverse gamer knowledge there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I don't recognize them either. My guess is that they originally appeared in Dragon Magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d(sqrt(-1)) Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 5:28 PM, svensson said: I'm personally not sure if it's AD&D, RQ, Pendragon, or Tekumel. It has style elements of all four and each property has similar illustrations [a defended tower under siege] from the '75-'85 era. My wife used to be layout and typesetting professional for a major game company and I had her look at it. She doesn't recognize either the art itself nor the artists and says that the proportions are 'weird' for US standard game book dimensions. It's too large to be quarter- or half-page, and too narrow for a full page. In her opinion, it's possibly a rough draft or promotional piece of artwork. Doesn't look like Tekumel to me - the shields and swords are fairly plain, as is the armour. 2 Quote Always start what you finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Absentia Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 1:08 PM, Agentorange said: The King of the Hill artwork is very similiar to one of the covers used on the karl Edward wagner short story collection Nightwinds: I was thinking that they might be concept art -- early drafts for work that appeared in different form in final publication. !i! Quote ...developer of White Rabbit Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raleel Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) I keep looking at the third one. I could swear I've seen that. I keep thinking FASA, but I don't think that's right. The style looks vaguely british rpg to me. edit: I could swear the third one is warhammer lizardmen. The axes on the two front guys have some sort of glyph on the head. the front one looks like saurus, and the back one like mage priest. Edited January 23, 2022 by Raleel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Absentia Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Raleel said: ...The style looks vaguely british rpg to me. edit: I could swear the third one is warhammer lizardmen... The emphasis on oversized pauldrons really does smell of Warhammer, doesn't it? !i! 1 Quote ...developer of White Rabbit Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 hours ago, Ian Absentia said: The emphasis on oversized pauldrons really does smell of Warhammer, doesn't it? !i! Yeah,like something that appeared in White Dwarf back when Games Workshop minis took off. On 1/23/2022 at 1:12 PM, Raleel said: I keep looking at the third one. I could swear I've seen that. I keep thinking FASA, but I don't think that's right. The style looks vaguely british rpg to me. edit: I could swear the third one is warhammer lizardmen. The axes on the two front guys have some sort of glyph on the head. the front one looks like saurus, and the back one like mage priest. It's possible the art got sold multiple times. While I get a British RPG/White Dwarf vibe from it, it also looks like something that might have appeared in STARDATE Magazine, which was put out by FASA. I'll take a peek at some of my old magazine to see if any of this pops up. All three illustrations look vaguely familiar, but looking for art in 40 year old issues of Dragon, White Dwarf, Different Worlds, Heroes Magazine, Sorcerer's Apprentice, Fantasy Gamer, Dungeoneer, Wyrm's Footnotes, any of the other gaming mags I have from that time is definitely a needle in a haystack sort of thing, and I probably don't even have the right haystack. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I don't know the WH communities, but -- given how many are detecting more than a whiff of it -- I gotta ask: are there any sites that really emphasize old/historic lore and this sort of question? Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 hours ago, g33k said: I don't know the WH communities, but -- given how many are detecting more than a whiff of it -- I gotta ask: are there any sites that really emphasize old/historic lore and this sort of question? No, just sites that focus on older RPGs like here. We're probably about as close as it gets to an RPG historic society.Remember, most of this stuff came out years ago in magazines that mostly had small print runs and were sold to a small group of fans, sometimes just a subset of fans, depending on what the magazine covered. No one back in the 70s and 80s were thinking of posterity or anything like that. They were just making, playing, and trying to sell games and game related content. Now add to that the fact that many gamers move on from gaming over time, and that many RPgs come out with newer editions, which tends to de-emphasize content from previous editions. For the most part the only people who care about RPGs from the 80s are people who played (or at least knew about) those games back then. It's kinda a shame because while much of it isn't relevant anymore, some of it is still very good, and all of it has historic and nostalgic value, even if it is just the history of a niche hobby. One of the things I have to give the current Chaosium crew credit for is that they do seem to value the older content. They seem to realize that this was something that happened once upon a time, and cannot happen again- at least not quite in the same way. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g33k Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Atgxtg said: No, just sites that focus on older RPGs like here. We're probably about as close as it gets to an RPG historic society.Remember, most of this stuff came out years ago in magazines that mostly had small print runs and were sold to a small group of fans, sometimes just a subset of fans, depending on what the magazine covered. No one back in the 70s and 80s were thinking of posterity or anything like that. They were just making, playing, and trying to sell games and game related content. Now add to that the fact that many gamers move on from gaming over time, and that many RPgs come out with newer editions, which tends to de-emphasize content from previous editions. ... Well, but there *ARE* sites that do specialize in "old D&D / old TSR" (such as "the Acaeum"). And this site... "Mr. Suitcase" is probably a unique resource within the RQ & Glorantha communities. Is there nothing comparable to these in the Warhammer communities? Edited January 26, 2022 by g33k Quote C'es ne pas un .sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I can't speak to what is available for Warhammer, or many other games for that matter, but there are a few websites like the Acaeum and Dragonsfoot, and Stuff of legends (for miniatures) that are great for information. It all depends on what you want to know. As "Mr. Suitcase", I like to think I am unique, but there are a number of other collectors/historians on this forum that know a great deal about Chaosium's products, particularly RQ/Gloranthan ones. Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Meints Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 RPGGeek, part of the BoardGameGeek site is also pretty handy. 1 Quote Hope that Helps,Rick Meints - Chaosium, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 As mentioned above, the final illustration looks like Warhammer. Specifically Lustria for Warhammer Fantasy Battles. If one looks at the frontispiece for the WFB Lustria supplement (2004) it shows distinct similarities - albeit drawn by another artist in a very different style - to the right half of the illustration under discussion. That would make the humans Imperial conquistadors marching up from their anchored ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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