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35 minutes ago, JRE said:

Faced with a superhero master of Death (and how could he have the Unbreakable Sword when he left Brithos, unless it is his by right, as Deathbringer) and Disorder, maybe the College was the God Learners' way to steal power out of Arkat, so they could cut him down in size, and all the multiple Arkats are the multiple personalities left after they broke him up.

The Slontan experiments (and God Learner heroquesting other than sorcerous or man-of-all exploration of the new scriptures) started only after Arkat had been safely banished and his stars taken down. (Which begs the question where those stars would have been found in the sky.)

 

1 minute ago, mfbrandi said:

Self-dismemberment is a core Arkat capability — like the cosmic dragon creating the world.

It is a core Osentalka capability? Dismembering themselves into the two halves with reversed polarity of Arkat, Gbaji and Nysalor. (And I stand by that math...) And, after overcoming the zero/imaginary infinite Gbaji, severing of those parts that no longer served their purpose, like pouring all that accumulated Chaos on both sides of the separation between Arkat and Nysalor into Dorastor?

Or do you mean what the God Learners inflicted on him post-apotheosis?

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My own proposal for the God Learners dealing with Arkat is that they penned him up in Statham Well, but they could not beat him. Then they broke up the Autarchy, draining it of power and content and learning all they could. After beating the mundane opponents they settled down for a slow siege and destruction of Arkat, but they could not breach into Statham Well.

So they set up different structures and manifestations to drain up Arkat's power to keep him trapped. I willingly concede the Slontos College is one of them, and for personal reasons I would pinpoint the Tower of Xud as another. In time, the siege became just an empty tradition, and the different power drains got their own dynamic and heterodox use of the power, marking a sharp departure from the Abiding Book orthodoxy.

After the God Learners's fell, the remaining Arkati, fragmented and being their own bitter enemies, tried through all means to open the way to Statham Well, but most knowledge of the time of the Autarchy was lost. When some of them succeeded (possibly many at the same time, from different traditions), IMHO 1616ST, they found Statham Well empty.

Arkat somehow escaped in the interim but got broken up in pieces, or escaped by breaking himself up, your choice, possibly in the 1580s or 1590s.

You can never keep the Trickster locked down forever, but it would be funny if some of the last chambers of the sunken Slontos Eurmal college flood at that point, with the spike of power enabling the break out, as the destruction of Belintar could have opened the way to Statham Well, if we take him as the last God Learner. That would explain Belintar's distraction in the PoS webcomic.

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Allready Halwal, the great God Learner dissident, set about to re-unite Arkat, but his best efforts only managed to coalesce the Arkati knowledge he could find into (what would become?) the followers of the three rivals Goraint, Valsatar and Mabodinarne. And that's not touching the troll version or the expected Chaos monster.

The idea that the Tower of Xud fulfills a function similar to the (rumored) iron sword piercing the Only Old One in keeping Arkat from re-uniting is intriguing. But the decyphering of that children's book from the fall of the last Archon will have taken considerably longer than the first establishment of magical impediments of Arkat.

The Seshnegi/Jrusteli conquest of Slontos seems to have followed the fall of the Autarchy, with the Loper People interfering rather badly. On the other hand, Slontos may have been the first Jrusteli conquest relying on invasions and alterations of native myth rather than overpowering sorcery and daring acts of chivalry (such as killing native demigods).

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