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On 9/6/2024 at 3:29 PM, Ali the Helering said:

Some of us, for professional reasons, experience of online bullying etc don't (& dare not) use social media.  Would it be possible to have the same information posted here?

Is this not social media?

Anyway, the new game announcement is "Miskatonic Tales: Journey to Innsmouth takes you on a mysterious adventure where players write their own story as Investigators of the Cthulhu Mythos."

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On 9/8/2024 at 9:14 PM, Ali the Helering said:

I haven't seen anyone bullied to the point of breakdown or suicide on BRP Central

Give it time ...

Although this is a generally friendly place, BRP Central has its own share of personal attacks and nastiness. Nowhere near as serious as other places, though.

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On 9/8/2024 at 4:14 PM, Ali the Helering said:

 I haven't seen anyone bullied to the point of breakdown or suicide on BRP Central, so I would have to say 'no', on a qualitative basis. 

I understand that you mean that as something of a joke about Social Media, but it actually the entirely wrong and dangerous conclusion.

If somebody has a breakdown or commits suicide over an RPG then they obviously had other, and far more serious mental issues that caused their actions. No one of sound mind kills themselves over a disagreement about using the resistance table. 

Back in the early 80s, long before social media,  there was some kid who played D&D who went crazy and killed himself. Many religious people and the press tried to blame that on RPGs, D&D in particular. They even interviewed the kids folks on 60 Minutes, where the parents admitted that while their son had been playing D&D for months, he  really been speaking to them for years. D&D wasn't to blame for what he did. He was mentally disturbed.

Likewise no one in their right mind does something extreme because of a post on Social Media, and if someone doesn't like how their interactions are going on social media they don't have to stay on that site, and can go someplace else or even not engage online at all. And how do these people actually manage to get through a game session? Most groups I've seen disagree with each other and the GM at times, sometimes with a good deal of venom.

Also back in the old days there was a religious comic book where someone kills themselves because their evil DM (actually evil in the comic) killed their character. I've never known anyone to harm themselves or have a breakdown over the loss of their character. If someone did we wouldn't blame the DM, would we? Gaming never would have existed if we did.  No one jumps out of a window because they lost at Monopoly. If someone did we wouldn't blame the other players, would we?

 

So we shouldn't blame Social Media or on-line forums for these sorts of incidents. They are responsible for how someone takes criticism or an insult. And it's not their fault in someone on a site can't handle it. It wrong to blame everyone else for something someone does to them self.

 

I think the underlying problem here are that:

1. We have people interacting with other people on-line who probably shouldn't be doing so due to mental issues.

2. We have a youth culture that has become overly sensitive and expect safe spaces and protection from being offended, and blames others for their actions,  which has lead to point number one above.  Previous generations were taught "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me." and/or "suck it up, princess."

 

P.S.    This site here was created by a guy who got repeatably banned from the Mongoose forums for his posts about MRQ. And those forums got hostile. So hostile that people  over at Mongoose, who were not particular fond of me (I was probably their most vocal critic of MRQ) actually jumped in and too steps to "defend" me when I got dogpiled on the forum for criticism something. I have no idea what prompted the action since they removed posts before I saw them, but I assume you there is nothing anyone could say about MRQ that would prompt me to kill myself.

Even here there used to be some pretty good "flame wars" (remember that term) over stuff using random or fixed armor, hit locations vs general hit points, the resistance table, fatigue points, RQ2 vs. RQ3, Strike Ranks vs DEX ranks, etc. Some of which got rather heated. Yet no actual harm cam from any of it. Not everybody agrees on things; It's all just a game; that's okay; and life goes on. Anyone who can't live with that has got a problem before the conversation even starts.

 

P.P.S. I still don't know what Triff posted over there that got  him permabanned. I suppose I never will. And that all happened 18 years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Atgxtg said:

I understand that you mean that as something of a joke about Social Media, but it actually the entirely wrong and dangerous conclusion.

It was not a joke.  I have seen it happen, entirely due to social media, and I do not appreciate the suggestion that such a tragedy would be a subject for humour, even mine.

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Chaosium's board games division is thrilled to announce a new game they're currently working on! 

Miskatonic Tales: Journey to Innsmouth takes you on a mysterious adventure where players write their own story as Investigators of the Cthulhu Mythos.

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