metcalph Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) Just a few stray observations when given the book an initial read through. p16 A clan of grazers moved out of the grazelands through Esrolia. I wonder if this might be the origin of the obscure Yelmalions of Caladraland (Cuts of Runequest: Mythology p152) The Holy Country is awfully square in the p17 map (1400-1500). The God King seems to have loosened up a bit in nex centuries map p17. Of interest is the legend Malkonwal which doesn't persist into the next century. Rikard may not have been totally making it up. Estal Donge is still around in Boldhome. The King of the Balymr, Enstalos Jereni, seems to have an unfortunate first name which would make him unpopular among the Dundealos. But there's a curious mention of a Vamastal Greyskin who is said to have been on the Sartar High Council in 1613. Perhaps Garaystar Flatnose had a name change? Bagnot's current smallness (expalined in the ext) is quite jarring - even Alda-Chur and Wilmskirk look more sophisticated. The Ogre Riots of Filichet is disturbing to read. Goblins finally described! Myrmidons in Dragon Pass? They're eating our DOGS, they're eating our CATS. I shouldn't have been so surprised given Timinits do appear in a Elder Secrets scenario and I never once thought to ask whey they might come from. The Tiger-men return. The Black Horse Rider p132 has Black Speech among his languages. Sounds like "Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul" Edited October 10 by metcalph 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Thanks @metcalph! And Thanks Chaosium! Just talked to my FLGS and had James (Thanks Warp 1... you rock!) put one aside for me out of his order. HUZZAH! 2 Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Duguid Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 6 hours ago, metcalph said: Goblins finally described! These are (pretty much) the same Goblins, worshipping the same deity, as in Wyrms Footnotes #7. Quote -- The Winter King | An Unofficial Buyer's Guide to RuneQuest and Glorantha | The Voralans | The Children of Hykim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 10 hours ago, metcalph said: Goblins finally described! Yes! 3 hours ago, Brian Duguid said: These are (pretty much) the same Goblins, worshipping the same deity, as in Wyrms Footnotes #7. Well, some of the background is. But if you check out the stats, you'll see they are much larger and stronger. Somewhere there was a Dragon Pass game counter which shows the goblins much like large shadows with oversized hands and feet. Think that has gone into the concept as well. 10 hours ago, metcalph said: The Tiger-men return. Yes! 10 hours ago, metcalph said: The Black Horse Rider p132 has Black Speech among his languages. Couldn't decide whether this was a miswriting of Darktongue or its own unique language among the Black Horse Riders? I suspect the latter. Other initial notes: Finally got a good writeup on the Earth Twins of Old Tarsh providing more information on them as rulers plus their cannibal virgin bodyguard Love the cutaway view of the Shaker's Temple Liked the Caravan Travel map - nice level of detail Dragonewt Road map - weird spelling of "Dragon Newt" and the Dragon's Eye was left off the map? Like the historical maps of 3rd Age Dragon Pass + Holy Country (the square Holy Country is interesting, but if true it didn't last long) Like the addition of the new Occupations (had already created my own Laborer for Nochet, but nice to see it added broadly here) Love the art - the broad landscapes are useful to see Nice to get more details on the Grazelands, Black Horse County, and the Wilds 1 Quote Edge of Empire | Nochet: Queen of Cities | Nochet: Adventurer's Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tindalos Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 10 hours ago, metcalph said: Goblins finally described! Interestingly they have a Move of only 6, slower than humans; which is quite at odds at how they were in the board game! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revilo Divad Of Dyoll Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 11 hours ago, metcalph said: The Black Horse Rider p132 has Black Speech among his languages. Sounds like "Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul" Never before has any voice dared utter words of that tongue in BRP Central, Metcalph [the Grey]. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccercalle Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) I have just started to browse the book and it is amazing. There are one thing that I think could've been handled differently. 1: Maybe the Wilds could have been divided in regions. Not it's one chapter for every area that isn't "human". I am not sure about this but I think it could have been organized differently. (I had another point but that has been fixed). But it is great! It is also easier to understand what will be in the upcoming Sartar book, probably much more about "politics" and the different tribes and clans. Edited October 10 by Soccercalle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozbat Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 I just got an email saying my order had changed to 'shipping'. I have to say I was a little disappointed that it wasn't going to be delivered by Dragon.. even a Wyrm delivery would be ok.. Shipping is so 21st century what's gone wrong @chaosium? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 4 hours ago, Soccercalle said: I have just started to browse the book and it is amazing. There are two things that I think could've been handled differently. 1: Maybe the Wilds could have been divided in regions. Not it's one chapter for every area that isn't "human". I am not sure about this but I think it could have been organized differently. 2: The map could have been made with higher resolution. It is sometimes hard to read the names if you zoom too closely. And I think that I will zoom quite often when I use it. But it is great! It is also easier to understand what will be in the upcoming Sartar book, probably much more about "politics" and the different tribes and clans. I had the team upload a higher resolution version of the digital map. Please download it again and if you believe it is now fixed, please delete the comment so that people don't think that is still the case. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccercalle Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 11 minutes ago, Jeff said: I had the team upload a higher resolution version of the digital map. Please download it again and if you believe it is now fixed, please delete the comment so that people don't think that is still the case. It is fixed and the hi-res is absolutely gorgeous. I have edited my comment to reflect this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 6 hours ago, Soccercalle said: 1: Maybe the Wilds could have been divided in regions. Not it's one chapter for every area that isn't "human". I am not sure about this but I think it could have been organized differently. I had a similar issue in my Nochet book when looking at the areas outside the city. And I did the same in grouping together as otherwise it gets incredibly fragmented on text entries for relatively sparse areas. 1 Quote Edge of Empire | Nochet: Queen of Cities | Nochet: Adventurer's Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccercalle Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Just now, jajagappa said: I had a similar issue in my Nochet book when looking at the areas outside the city. And I did the same in grouping together as otherwise it gets incredibly fragmented on text entries for relatively sparse areas. Yeah I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Jeff said: I had the team upload a higher resolution version of the digital map. Hi-res digital map looks great! Quote Edge of Empire | Nochet: Queen of Cities | Nochet: Adventurer's Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erol of Backford Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Whoa... nice landmark! I suppose it was the Black Dragon's dream dragon that ate Bagtrap? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 What's the file size on the new version? Looks like B&M is still 9MB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozbat Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 3 hours ago, Jeff said: I had the team upload a higher resolution version of the digital map. Please download it again and if you believe it is now fixed, please delete the comment so that people don't think that is still the case. Thank you @Jeff.. so much better and loads in the viewer better too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozbat Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 16 minutes ago, Jens said: What's the file size on the new version? Looks like B&M is still 9MB. its the 29.4 MB map .. very last download file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Brooke Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 10 hours ago, jajagappa said: I had a similar issue in my Nochet book when looking at the areas outside the city. And I did the same in grouping together as otherwise it gets incredibly fragmented on text entries for relatively sparse areas. Same for Furthest. The section on what’s “Outside the Walls” covers a wide range of otherwise unrelated areas. 2 Quote Community Ambassador - Jonstown Compendium, Chaosium, Inc. Email: nick.brooke@chaosium.com for community content queries Jonstown Compendium ⧖ Facebook Ф Twitter † old website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted October 12 Author Share Posted October 12 p11. 1432 - Bina Bang masters Lord Lurker in Shadows at the Castle of Lead. 1435 - Dagori Inkarth declares war against Lunars, offer their aid to Tarsh Bina Bang seems to be an awfully shit emissary for the Red Moon, just saying. The dates are from Trollpak which is why this is not in the corrections thread but even that has some weirdness about Troll missionaries being slaughtered in Halikiv in 1376 ST after a declaration was verified (presumably it's not the 1435 declaration that was mentioned a few paras before) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Bray Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 On 10/10/2024 at 1:52 PM, Tindalos said: Interestingly they have a Move of only 6, slower than humans; which is quite at odds at how they were in the board game! Maybe they wear a ball and chain and lead boots to stop them running into the walls of Muse Roost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Bray Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 There actual speed is Move 20 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Brooke Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 1 hour ago, metcalph said: Bina Bang seems to be an awfully shit emissary for the Red Moon, just saying. She's a great emissary for the Blue Moon, though. Quote Community Ambassador - Jonstown Compendium, Chaosium, Inc. Email: nick.brooke@chaosium.com for community content queries Jonstown Compendium ⧖ Facebook Ф Twitter † old website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccercalle Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 How large is the map that comes with the book? My shipment arriwes first on Tuesday and I am thinking about using an offer from Redbubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malin Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Just finished reading it, and the high res map is gorgeous... finally I can zoom to my heart's content! So many ideas for my campaigns, far too many. Might be my favorite one since Guide to Glorantha... 2 Quote ☀️Sun County Apologist☀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Again, if you all enjoyed the book, please leave a good review (with maximum stars if possible) on whatever site you bought it. That will help us be able to get the book into greater circulation. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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