tal Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Can anyone give me their oppinion of the RQ III supliments Gloranthan Bestiary and Elder Secrets? Are they essential, nice to have, so so, or a waste of time to track down? Quote 141/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapersAndPaychecks Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Can't comment on Elder Secrets, I don't have it. Gloranthan Bestiary is so-so at best; I much prefer the treatment in the RQ2 book (which has Dragonewts!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trifletraxor Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Can anyone give me their oppinion of the RQ III supliments Gloranthan Bestiary and Elder Secrets? Are they essential, nice to have, so so, or a waste of time to track down? The Gloranthan Bestiary is filled with nice monsters, definitely worth having. Can be found both on eBay and eMule. Elder secrets is essential for a Gloranthan game, and a nice supplement if you play using RQ3 creatures in other settings. SGL. Quote Ef plest master, this mighty fine grub! 116/420. High Priest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaira Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Neither of the supplements are essential for Gloranthan gaming, though they're clearly nice-to-have. A large proportion of the Bestiary is critters from Pamaltela, which means either you don't use them unless your game goes to Pamaltela, or you fudge and use the critters in unusual circumstances in Genertela. Nice to see stats for Slarges, though! The rest of the critters were initially valuable for their RQ3 writeups, as prior to the Bestiary many monsters had only existed with RQ2 stats and had to be converted by GMs. Now that's a moot point - if you have RQ2, MRQ Monsters, etc, you may find you already have lots of the critters already available. Personally, I'd get it (price depending, of course) - just for Gloranthan critter completeness. Elder Secrets is remarkable for the appalling artwork and some really good content. The Secrets book itself contains some excellent essays, though these days you might find a lot of it published elsewhere (GSA, the HQ Glorantha Book, etc). The Elder Races book again contains writeups of Trolls, Elves, Dragonewts, and some cults, etc, which you might find elsewhere, although there are some tidbits which you won't find anywhere else. It's certainly useful for a writeup of how Gloranthan metals and crystals (especially iron) *should* work. I'd grab it, again price depending. Incidentally, have you looked at some of the HQ books, in particular Anaxial's Roster and Introduction to Glorantha? You'd have to more or less write your own stats for the monsters in Anaxials, but it's v. good Gloranthan info. Cheers, Sarah Quote "The Worm Within" - the first novel for The Chronicles of Future Earth, coming 2013 from Chaosium, Inc. Website: http://sarahnewtonwriter.com | Twitter: @SarahJNewton | Facebook: TheChroniclesOfFutureEarth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tal Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Thanks everyone! Quote 141/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 A bit late, but yesterday (8th March) was International Women's Day and it was more than my life's worth to go on the PC. Elder Secrets is good, lots of information about some of the Elder Races. It also has an updated Cacodemon cult with Vomit Acid, Fiends and stats for Cacodemon himself. It also covers Mostali, Aldryami, Uz, Baboons, Beast men, Centaurs, Giants, Grotarons, Jelmre, Keets, Luatha, Ludoch, Motocanth, Newtlings, Ogres, Slarges, Timinits, Tusk Riders, Voralans, Waertagi, Wind Children, Dragonewts, Dinosaurs, Magisaurs, Wyverns. Wyrms, Stoorworms, Cult of the Bloody Tusk and Cacodemon. There are stats for Cacodemon, The Crimson Bat, Cwim, The Mother of Monsters, the Hydra of Dragon Pass, The Chaos Gaggle and a Roc. Theer is a bestiary that contains Amphisboena, Catoblepas, Hippogriff, Nasobeme and Redcap. It also covers inaccessible areas of Glorantha and several secrets that are not covered anywhere else, to my knowledge. Gloranthan Bestiary has a few cult outlines that aren't found anywhere else (e.g. Kaarg) and a lot of creatures in RQ3 format. Most of these were in the RQ2 Gateway Bestiary and other RQ2 products, but they were updated for RQ3. Of the two, Gloranthan Bestiary is probably the more useful as it has all the common creatures that you would need stats for. Elder Secrets is the more interesting of the two, however. There are PDFs knocking around of these and all the other RQ2/RQ3 products, if you can get hold of them. They also appear fairly regularly in games shops and at conventions. You can get them on eBay as well, or so I am told. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tal Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Soltakss, Thanks, I got Elder secrets off ebay and am waiting for it to arrive. Waiting for the Bestiary to show up on Ebay(not a real fan of PDF's) for a decent price. Quote 141/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinisalo Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Elder Secrets is a must-have imho. That one page article on heroquesting kept me running my game for about 10 years! Quote My Glorantha fan site: http://www.clan-tula.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunGuyFromYuggoth Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Both are excellent. Happy hunting. Quote Roll D100 and let the percentiles sort them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tal Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Found them both. Thanks everyone. Quote 141/420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRose Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 One more thing about Elder secrets is there are article on Rune metals and Magical crystals that I think are very nice. so you can put your troll in lead plate or use crystal besides the standered power crystals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogspawner Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Not being able to make proper use of Rune Metals and Magic Crystals without buying Elder Secrets rankles somewhat. Could someone tell us the full rules for these things, please? Quote Britain has been infiltrated by soviet agents to the highest levels. They control the BBC, the main political party leaderships, NHS & local council executives, much of the police, most newspapers and the utility companies. Of course the EU is theirs, through-and-through. And they are among us - a pervasive evil, like Stasi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiba Homer Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Although it is written well and the viewpoint is fun, I dislike what is written on rune metals, their benefits are very bland and mostly ineffective. The crystals are much more interesting and are effectively 2nd ed. Otherwise Elder secrets is well worth buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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