Flesh Man Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 How does the Major / Minor sources of holiness work? Specifically how much holiness can be gained from scriptures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I don't have my Merrie England PDF at work, so I cannot check the actual values. When I get the chance at home, I'll check the values. The idea behind Major / Minor sources of holiness is that not every religion/sect gains power in the same way. Some take vows, some perform pilgrimages, some perform sacrifices and some study religious texts. However, it has been a while since I looked at these, so I cannot remember the exact details. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 What parts of the rules are you referencing? I cannot find references to the scriptures providing Holiness, just blessings. That specific part of the rules about holiness was written by me, so I am reasonably sure that you gain Holiness only from vows. Of course, vows are quite different between Christians and Muslims. Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh Man Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 The scriptures section only mentions gaining blessings. pg 25 bottom of first column. "Different religions gain holiness in different ways. games Masters may, of course, decide to allow all religions access to all types of holiness." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Aaah, ok. Yes, it is not explained very well in the text. Basically the point is that you can learn a Blessing without "using up" Holiness. You will require a critical success in Research (appropriate Scripture) or Mysticism, depending on your cult. This is particolarly important for sects that do not put much importance on vows, relics, icons or ordained clergy - for instance the Cathars. Since they have little or no Holiness coming from those sources, the Cathars will rather find blessings in the scriptures. This determines how many blessings they know. How many times per day they can invoke a blessing is still determined by their Piety. 1 Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yes, it is not well explained. Holiness represents the number of Blessings a Character can know. However, for Blessings From Scriptures, we only mention Blessings, not Holiness. A Critical Research (Religious Texts) roll means the Character gains 1 Blessing and 1 Holiness from the study of that sacred text. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh Man Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks for the replies. I assume this is the same for Mysticism. After several weeks or months a critical with Knowledge ([Mysticism]) gains a blessing and a point of holiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks for the replies. I assume this is the same for Mysticism. After several weeks or months a critical with Knowledge ([Mysticism]) gains a blessing and a point of holiness. Yes, Mysticism and Scriptures work in essentially the same way. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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