muminalver Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Eiotminds have started to release the art for the "New" Drakar och Demoner. This is the roleplaying game that started thehole thing in Sweden. Its basic a Brp versión of magic world, with ducks and wolf folk... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I don't know, "Magiker" doesn't have the same connotations as the original "Trollkarl" class (wizards)... Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Magiker Can be used by both female and male practitioners. As I recall they were going for a genderneutral rulebook. I do miss Stråtrövare and Hantverkare is a New proffesion. I do worry that they change it too much.. That would bé sad.. But The art, I really like the art style. Edited May 2, 2016 by muminalver missed an phrase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinabrett Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 2 hours ago, muminalver said: But The art, I really like the art style. It reminds me of AD&D Planescape. Can I be a Vargfolk, please? Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 It a playable race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 ? vargfolk had the following stats in the old version... Str 4d6,size 3d6, Con3d6+3, dex 2d6+9, int 3d6, POW 3d6, cha 2d6+2 move as human, bite 1d8 ? 1pts skinn, training normally hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The artwork there is really remarkable, I must admit. I have a tough time enjoying a game if the art sucks; it's the pseudo-artist in me I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_RDP Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 That art is fantastic and evocative. That would be the style I would want to do for Skaerune' if I could. Hrmm maybe someday 2 Quote Its 2300hrs, do you know where your super dreadnoughts are? http://reigndragonpressblog.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 The illustrater has this page with.. Stuff Look http://johan-egerkrans.blogspot.se/?m=1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baragei Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 How come the swedes are able to pull this off again and again; small companies produce small games for a small group of customers (in swedish, a language spoken by 9-10 million people on a good day), and manage to blow international publishers out of the water with concepts and looks? Is there some sort of govermental stipend for this, or do they just have that rare combination of luck and raving lunacy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 I think its a mix of luck a exceptional individuals, doing the right thing in the right moment. I think old version sold something like 100000 còpies, of course this is pre-Internet, pre-cabel Tv in Sweden. In a country not known for Nice weather, during a time when there was not much to do. It inspiered a lot of people, the artist J. Egerkrans beguin his career due to this game.. In The 80 the best enjoyment was vhs videos and the game evry kid played was Drakar och Demoner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Do you think the game will be translated into other languages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 They said they would not, but The are planning on translating Trudvagn, if I understand correctly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 http://riotminds.se/riotminds-to-release-acclaimed-classic-role-playing-game-for-the-international-market/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On 2.5.2016 at 0:38 PM, muminalver said: Magiker Can be used by both female and male practitioners. As I recall they were going for a genderneutral rulebook. I hope that is not part of the political correctness movement that was lamented by fellow Scandinavians at last Kraken... On 2.5.2016 at 0:38 PM, muminalver said: I do miss Stråtrövare and Hantverkare is a New proffesion. I do worry that they change it too much.. That would bé sad.. But The art, I really like the art style. Not sure whether there has to be much change. I never did a word for word translation, as my Swedish is almost enough to read the ancient (boxed set) rules fluently, and I mostly compared them to known BRP rules rather than studying them in detail. I spent most scrutiny on the spell economy, which I loaned for a "Low Sorcery" style magic (compare Midkemia) for my then non-Gloranthan RQ setting Runewelt. I cannot help but compare Drakar och Demoner (original edition) with Das Schwarze Auge (DSA, aka The Dark Eye), the German response to imperialistic TSR demands when roleplaying was pushed big style in 1984. DSA created a very "gutbürgerlich" German setting which I left as fast as I could for settins of my own design. They did establish an art style of their own which is pleasant but quite - let's call it "politically correct", despite a couple of badly thought through initial illustrations which created a modest uproar back in the days. Anyway, I bought Drakar och Demoner when I was a bit over two years into the hobby, and well into my own major setting, then with a different, slightly older German rpg, while making first tentative steps towards RQ and Stormbringer. Anyway, I had the opportunity to compare the German mainstream rpg with the Swedish one, and boy did the German system and setting suck in comparison. (That was about the last time I took a closer look to DSA. I heard they kept working on the system and the setting, but frankly I cannot see how improving either would lift it to the standard of Drakar och Demoner of the late eighties.) 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarence Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Regarding the Swedish RPG scene, it seems to consist of a good mix of alternative game developers and more commercial ones. With both camps being quite close to each other, doing work for each other - and ideas flow both ways. It seems to be paying off at the moment: Mutant: Year Zero, Symbaroum and Trudvang are being translated and win prizes : ) And the alt scene is bustling with interesting titles... 2 Quote FrostByte Books M–SPACE d100 Roleplaying in the Far Future Odd Soot Science Fiction Mystery in the 1920s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trystero Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) I'm also really digging the artwork. Pity I don't know any Swedish. Edit: I remember seeing the box for Drakar och Demoner in a store in Sweden back in 1985; it was the edition that used the same Michael Whelan painting of Elric that appeared on the 4th-edition Stormbringer book, and (being unable to read the back-cover text) I wondered whether it was a licensed version of Stormbringer. Edited May 4, 2016 by trystero 1 Quote — “Self-discipline isn’t everything; look at Pol Pot.”—Helen Fielding, Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muminalver Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 1985, that would have been the 2 eddrakar och demoner made 1984.. I think.. I did not know of either elric or almost anything of fantasy, at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trystero Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I don't know the editions well enough to tell which one it was, but I think it was either http://www.runan.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/drakarochdemoner.jpg or http://media.xn--ventyrsspel-k8a.com/2015/09/Drakar-och-demoner-239x300.png. Quote — “Self-discipline isn’t everything; look at Pol Pot.”—Helen Fielding, Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorpa Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I am so waiting for my Kickstarter copy and from what I have seen it is gonna be glorious! Plan to use this Retro Edition to introduce my nephew into the wonderful world of Drakar and Demoner. He is about the same age I was when I got started at 9-10 years old. At first we didn't even read through the rules we just used the numbers in the book to sort of created our own RPG. But within a year or so I knew the rules almost instinctively. And that is why I love the BRP system. It is just so easy. Even though nowadays I have moved on to RQ6/Mythras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorpa Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Speaking of the devil. Riotminds just released a "work in progress" cover of the first adventure campaign to be released at the same time as the new retro Drakar och Demoner. Edited May 6, 2016 by Chorpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Chorpa said: Speaking of the devil. Riotminds just released a "work in progress" cover of the first adventure campaign to be released at the same time as the new retro Drakar och Demoner. Trying to dust off my Swedish after a decade of not using it: "The Riddles (or Secrets) of the Sea of Dusk?" 3 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorpa Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Joerg said: Trying to dust off my Swedish after a decade of not using it: "The Riddles (or Secrets) of the Sea of Dusk?" Very good and very accurate I must say. It was first planned be a single adventure written by one of the now famous authors (at least in Sweden) from the old days during the height of the Drakar and Demoner period from the 80s. But because of the very successful kickstarter (that took everyone by surprise) it expanded into a full seafaring campaign where you explore Skymningshavet/Sea of Dusk and it's plentiful adventure locations. Can't wait to see how it turns out and the little I have seen from Anders Blixt's blog it is gonna be a very nice module that embraces both the old and new into a perfect blend. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I recognized the name Anders Blixt from my occasional forays into Göteborg's Äventyrspel shop in the late eighties and early nineties. I think i bought the Expert set of DoD back then, in addition to the basic game. University student finances kept me from digging deeper into the game and setting at the time, but I liked what glimpses I got. Pretty much my style of OSR. 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiorgan Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 On 03.05.2016 at 7:28 PM, muminalver said: http://riotminds.se/riotminds-to-release-acclaimed-classic-role-playing-game-for-the-international-market/ So, the game they will translate into English is not the BRP-based version? Smiorgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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