jajagappa Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 15 hours ago, M Helsdon said: Notyet City University Press Clearly a special division of the Charterists school at the Great Temple of Knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Latest rework. Old version included for comparison. Might get another two done by the end of the week - which means that Chapters 1-3 have okay sketches. About a third in chapter 4 have been redone. Edited April 2, 2019 by M Helsdon 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 9:45 PM, M Helsdon said: The Bush Range - part of the Old Tarsh territory. Bush Children Type Light Infantry Armor None Weapons Bow, broadsword, shield Morale Militia 2 Patron Deity Voriof Notes Tarshite Psiloi. Magic Factor Low 2 Missile Factor 2 Melee Factor 2 The Bush Ranges are rugged hill-land on both sides of the north Dragonspine. The irregular steep hills and overgrown valleys make poor farming and grazing. It is well suited to the bandit clans who live there. The Bush Children are the settlers of the Bush Ranges in the foothills of Kero Fin. They are herders, hunters, and bandits, who excel at scouting and hit-and-run skirmishes. These bandit clans usually have no loyalty to each other or any outsider lord. These units trace their origins to the days after the Battle of Grizzly Peak, when many Tarshites fled the Lunar ravaging of the clans in the hills of the Bush Ranges. Many sought sanctuary in Sartar where they served as mercenaries, fighting the Lunar advance. This group are adept at fighting in craggy terrain, scaling sheer cliffs, and setting ambushes. Latest two images reworked a little. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Latest: reworked Wolf Pirate. His weapon is a shafted sickle, a dorydrepanon, used to cut the lines and slash the sails of enemy vessels. The spearhead allows it to be used to stab at enemy sailors and marines. Edited April 5, 2019 by M Helsdon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) On 4/2/2019 at 10:14 PM, Brootse said: Thanks! You are welcome. The fan book is full of 'information' like this, but whilst it attempts to be as canonical as possible, isn't canonical. There's a chapter where every unit (and several more) that appears in the Dragon Pass board game has a table of 'stats' and as much additional information as I can gather, with the exception of the Baron's Friends unit, about which I have been unable to find anything. Some units and regiments have a half page of information, others a bare paragraph. In a few cases have attempted to make 'informed' speculation (but may have made 2+2 = 5...) The tabulated information is intended to be a 'quick reference', with a color denoting pantheon, and the basic details to permit a GM to equip allies or enemies for PCs to encounter. The 1st Bush Children should have been orange, not green... Sadly, not every entry in the Army Lists has an illustration (would need about eighty more, and it has taken me more than six months to draw around sixty). Edited April 5, 2019 by M Helsdon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Latest. Hands still need some work. This completes the redrawing of sketches for chapter 3. Edited April 8, 2019 by M Helsdon 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Now reworked 25 of the sketches. Perhaps eight or nine more that I can perhaps improve on... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Today's rework. Since this was uploaded, have added a leather strap to the shield, which she's not using as she's holding two javelins. Note also that her sword is on her left hip and not visible. Edited April 10, 2019 by M Helsdon 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yesterday and today's rework. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 You know pretty soon we are going to start pushing for a second book of the rejected art. Most of it is pretty good. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Atgxtg said: You know pretty soon we are going to start pushing for a second book of the rejected art. Most of it is pretty good. In this example, there were a number of problems with the original (on the right) - the main ones being that the scale armor faded in places and the central ridges weren't correct for scales of this size. The scales themselves simply weren't convincing. In the past eight or nine months my sketching technique, has, I hope, improved, which means that the sketches in the book vary wildly in quality and style. Am now using a different pen, using a light box which helps me judge shading, and adding flesh tones digitally. Re-drawing a sketch without significant changes takes a day or two - the Manirian crossbowman was redrawn from scratch and took three or four days. Edited April 12, 2019 by M Helsdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Oh you've definitely improved, and your reworked pictures are an upgrade. I'm just saying you have a lot of good drawings out there. Even your "bad" stuff isn't actually "bad" - it's just that your "good" stuff is better. 6 Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Atgxtg said: Oh you've definitely improved, and your reworked pictures are an upgrade. I'm just saying you have a lot of good drawings out there. Even your "bad" stuff isn't actually "bad" - it's just that your "good" stuff is better. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Atgxtg said: Oh you've definitely improved, and your reworked pictures are an upgrade. I'm just saying you have a lot of good drawings out there. Even your "bad" stuff isn't actually "bad" - it's just that your "good" stuff is better. Thank you for your kind comment, but I'd like the material to be as 'good' as I can make it. Today redrew one of the simpler sketches. [A long day and couldn't do anything difficult.] Edited April 13, 2019 by M Helsdon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, M Helsdon said: Thank you for your king comment, but I'd like the material to be as 'good' as I can make it. And we all appreciate that. You could have stopped drawing and rested on your laurels a long time ago, but you keep improving things. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 This evening's rework (not redrawing). Some extra changes needed. In this case, the original sketch of the rider was shaded, first with pen and ink, then digitally, and re-merged with the zebra. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Latest. Still haven't got the hand or arm correct... Will attempt to alter it digitally. Forearm too long, hand too small... Hmm, going to have to redraw the arm... Minor changes made... Edited April 15, 2019 by M Helsdon 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Latest. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 The original was already great, but it's still quite an improvement! And he's wearing trousers! I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 Latest. Dog needs a bit more work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 Two more redrawn... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) No new art today: time divided between preparatory sketching and filling in a few sections in the 'Gods of War' chapter: realized there was material in a deleted appendix about Bisos and Karndasal which could be re-purposed. Whilst there's material on the war gods everyone will know, that isn't overly long as have attempted to fill in some details on less well known deities. Of course, I haven't seen the new 'Gods of Glorantha' book in any form (other than the Polaris chapter) so there might be additional material in there... Have also attempted to expand on the different military traditions in each satrapy, as their military aren't just 'Lunar'. Whilst there's quite a bit on information on many Pelorian military traditions (Lunar, Dara Happan, Pelandan, Carmanian, and even Orlanthi and Templars in Sylila) in my fan book, there are four about which I can find virtually nothing (the old Imperial Lunar Handbooks are often interesting, but decidedly unreliable now, and even they have next-to-nothing on the 'missing' military). Instead, have had to rely upon the few regiments that belong to undocumented traditions, and extrapolate, which still leaves two with little or no data available. When assessing the peripheral territories, I was able to do better than that (and decided to exclude the Loskalmi as the Western Reaches are outside my self-imposed remit). So, if anyone has material on Rinliddi, Manimati, Darjiini, or Darsenite military history/traditions which is or was canonical at one time (excluding the ILH) would be grateful for anything that can be shared. Edited April 22, 2019 by M Helsdon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Nothing forthcoming, and only silly comments on FB so I deleted the request there and... after working through the Guide, TFS, GRoY, a few other sources, I have about a page in total on all the smaller military traditions in Peloria, plus an analysis of which satrapies they reside in. Some suppositions made based on terrain. Unfortunately, I need another page as it throws all the pagination off. Saddened that Rinliddi especially is obviously a significant culture, but the available information is very slim. Addendum: a bit more material found (including something @jajagappa posted about Imther). Pagination resolved, but... I think will need another sketch.... Another collection of those redone so far. This shows about a third of the 'art' I've created so far. Edited April 23, 2019 by M Helsdon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 12:01 PM, M Helsdon said: So, if anyone has material on Rinliddi, Manimati, Darjiini, or Darsenite military history/traditions which is or was canonical at one time (excluding the ILH) would be grateful for anything that can be shared. May be relevant that Palangio Iron-Vrok was from Rinliddi. Perhaps something could be extrapolated? He certainly was a militant fellow and a general, and his way of doing warfare might have influenced his own people (or been influenced by them)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Godspeed Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Is it possible that the Darjiini/Manimati are mostly demilitarized? They are the targets of the Alkothi We Hate Darjiini Usurpers Wars (in a form that vaguely resembles the Spartan-Helot relationship), and have supposedly been unable to claim any kind of independence since the Dara Happans stole the Broche of Manimat. Obviously there will be guards and soldiers in the area - but perhaps they might be prohibited from fielding full regiments of any kind? Beyond that, the term "Stork People" mostly makes me think of light skirmishers. This is purely speculative, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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