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An exercise in looking at how 'wide' the phases of the Red Moon are. The lines are not stationary but move (clockwise?) during the day and night.

At the distance of Dragon Pass and Prax each phase is hundreds of miles across... 

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I hadn't realized that She was actually pivoting to face different directions within the Middle Air, as opposed to facing towards or away from the world as a whole.

So if I follow this right, while the moon is full in Dragon Pass, Kethalia, and Prax, it's at empty-half in the Wastelands & Kralorela, crescent-come in on the Blue Moon Plateau and Pent, Black in Eol & the White Sea, Dying in Carmania, crescent-go in Fronela, and full-half in Ralios - all simultaneously. I suppose the Lunars mark their calendars according to the phase that's facing Glamour?

If you let out from Glamour on horseback to circle the crater, would you be at a different phase every 15 miles or so? 

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1 hour ago, JonL said:

I hadn't realized that She was actually pivoting to face different directions within the Middle Air, as opposed to facing towards or away from the world as a whole.

Her shadow moves.

1 hour ago, JonL said:

So if I follow this right, while the moon is full in Dragon Pass, Kethalia, and Prax, it's at empty-half in the Wastelands & Kralorela, crescent-come in on the Blue Moon Plateau and Pent, Black in Eol & the White Sea, Dying in Carmania, crescent-go in Fronela, and full-half in Ralios - all simultaneously. I suppose the Lunars mark their calendars according to the phase that's facing Glamour?

The Guide gives the examples:

Day of the Week

Lunar Phase in Dragon Pass

Lunar Phase in First Blessed

Freezeday

Crescent-Going

Black Moon

Waterday

Dying Moon

Crescent-Coming

Clayday

Black Moon

Empty Half

Windsday

Crescent-Coming

Full Moon

Fireday

Empty Half

Full Half

Wildday

Full Moon

Crescent-Going

Godsday

Full Half

Dying Moon

You might be able to travel 20-30 miles a day on a good horse.

 

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Ah, I see my mistake now. How do you make tables on here? I want to complete that one around the seven regions/directions.

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57 minutes ago, JonL said:

How do you make tables on here?

I find the simplest method is to create the table in Word and then copy-and-pasting retaining the formatting.

Note that the 'directions' change over a day as the 'phases' rotate about the Red Moon.

Day of the Week

Lunar Phase

Lunar Phase

Lunar Phase

Lunar Phase

Lunar Phase

Lunar Phase

Lunar Phase

Freezeday

Full Moon

Full Half

Crescent-Going

Dying Moon

Black Moon

Crescent-Coming

Empty Half

Waterday

Full Half

Crescent-Going

Dying Moon

Black Moon

Crescent-Coming

Empty Half

Full Moon

Clayday

Crescent-Going

Dying Moon

Black Moon

Crescent-Coming

Empty Half

Full Moon

Full Half

Windsday

Dying Moon

Black Moon

Crescent-Coming

Empty Half

Full Moon

Full Half

Crescent-Going

Fireday

Black Moon

Crescent-Coming

Empty Half

Full Moon

Full Half

Crescent-Going

Dying Moon

Wildday

Crescent-Coming

Empty Half

Full Moon

Full Half

Crescent-Going

Dying Moon

Black Moon

Godsday

Empty Half

Full Moon

Full Half

Crescent-Going

Dying Moon

Black Moon

Crescent-Coming

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Thanks! Now I have a desire to print the seven rays at 2pi/7rad intervals pattern on transparency material to lay on top of a paper map. :) 

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So what happens for a lunar spell caster on one of the radial lines? does their Full Moon phase run from noon until noon instead of midnight until midnight? or does it snap to a one midnight-midnight day or the other?

In the image below if the top row is a phase at noon, the bottom row is how it looks at midnight. Assuming that the moon is half red half black and turns at a constant rate...

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2 hours ago, Byll said:

So what happens for a lunar spell caster on one of the radial lines? does their Full Moon phase run from noon until noon instead of midnight until midnight? or does it snap to a one midnight-midnight day or the other?

Based on the description of when Wildday 'begins' (coinciding with the Full Moon in Dragon Pass) in the Guide, at sunset.

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I think uniformly rotating moon may fit the day-names a little better if it's 3/7 red and 4/7 black...

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On 1/3/2017 at 9:45 PM, M Helsdon said:

I find the simplest method is to create the table in Word and then copy-and-pasting retaining the formatting.

Well, well, well, it was worth this article just for that useful piece of advice. 

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On 1/3/2017 at 1:36 PM, JonL said:

 I suppose the Lunars mark their calendars according to the phase that's facing Glamour?

Glamour, being within the Silver Shadow, is I think a separate case.  Being under the Moon and within the Lunar radiance, it might always appear Full there.

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If you wanted the half-moon days to look more halfling, then you might have to go all the way down to 2/7 Red 5/7 black, which is perhaps a bit too far.

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I did this back in 2012 when we were looking at Moon Phases. It's a low res GIF capture of a web animation I did. Sadly I'm limited by file size here so it's not a full cycle, but it may be of interest to some. I'll put up the proper animation on Glorantha.com if anyone is interested.

phase.gif

The central hub (Moon Rune) is the diameter of Silver Shadow where the Moon is always full.

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16 hours ago, David Scott said:

The central hub (Moon Rune) is the diameter of Silver Shadow where the Moon is always full.

This of course brings out a wonderful possibility.

It is said in the Seven Mothers cult write up (for instance Pavis:GtA pg 400) that the Seven Mothers holy days are held on the Full Moon days (Wildday for Pavis and Dragon Pass,) and the Guide's calendars list the holy days there as being Lunar rather than just the Seven Mothers.

So perhaps in the Silver Shadow, every day is a Holy Day, and a time of celebration at the immanence and imminence of the Red Goddess. The Red Emperor's great parties are held to celebrate his mother, as a part of these glorious days.

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