hkokko Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Looking at recent history (past 100 years of Fonrit and Umathela) from official publications I find that there are relatively few things happening per generation (compared to better known areas). For example there is a stretch between 1518 and 1585 where officially nothing of note happens. Similarly between 1601 and 1613 and 1614 to 1618. Would ask the crowd here to give their devious inspiration of ideas that might have happened in these stretches that would be of significant note. Below are the items that seem to be of canon note in publications. 1518 Fonrit Ruler of Hombori Tondo uses the power of Darleester the Noose to become Jann of Afadjann and expand his territory. 1585 Fonrit Vadeli fleets overcome Umathela and Fonrit. 1585 Umathela The Vadeli reach Umathela 1585 Umathela Cerngoth occupied by Vadeli 1586 Umathela Vadeli founded the city of Hadrumal to exploit the silver mines in the surrounding mountains 1587 Fonrit Vadeli fleet conquers Kareeshtu 1587 Kumanku Islands First Fleet arrives since the closing (Vadeli posing as returning Godlearners) 1588 Fonrit Vadeli fleet encounters Maslo fleet, naval war begins. 1588 Umathela Vadeli founded Garganz as fortress for tribute collection 1590 Umathela Vadeli founded the stone fortifications at city of Kuvalal 1594 Fonrit Vadeli and Maslo fleets destroyed at Battle of Oenriko Rocks. 1594 Umathela Garganz builds it own fleet after Vadeli defeat and establishes dominance over local cities 1594 Umathela Fleet of Durnanaba surprised Vadeli and destroyed part of Vadeli fleet 1595 Kumanku Islands Kareeshtu wars to vanquish Kumanku Islands ending at sworn allegiance to Kareeshtu 1596 Fonrit Kareeshtu warsails made contact with the cities of the Banamban Coast 1598 Fonrit Kareeshtu establishes garrisons and exacts tribute from Banamban Coast 1600 Fonrit Confederation of fierce Pujaleg bat People oppresses the interior of Banamba, extracting tribute and sacrifices from the cities 1600 Umathela Nikosdros Fleet establishes naval dominance over the rest of Umathela 1601 Umathela A Dwarf navy from Slon destroys a stretch of Enkloso 1601 Umathela King of Sulayz gains fame in fighting against dwarves alongside elves 1601 Umathela Sulayz given limited freedom from Woodland laws after fighting against dwarf invasion 1613 Fonrit Current Jann comes to power in Hombori Tondo. Pujaleg Empire formed in Laskal. 1613 Fonrit Astamanyx becomes Jann of Afadjann. The Benestros Uprising is quashed. 1613 Fonrit Pujaleg defeats Tripolis of Tharkhar and forces Dreen to pay tribute of food and slaves to Pujaleg Empire 1618 Umathela Terthinus becomes ruler of Dashomo Sea. 1618 Fonrit Terthinus becomes ruler of Dashomo Sea. 1618 Fonrit Jawdar Mansyur declares himself the King of Baruling 1618 Umathela Terthinus demands tribute and destroys Flaurine. Cerngoth levies a new Sea-Metal tax to pay the Malasp demands 1618 Umathela Tortrica expells the Afadjanni overlords 1621 Fonrit Golden Kareeshtu establishes with cruelty and vision its leadership among rival confederations 1622 Fonrit Harrek the Berserk conquers and rules Banamba 1624 Fonrit The Demon Wars begin 1631 Fonrit Harrek the Berserk returns in force to Laskal Quote My Glorantha/Mythras blog with Glorantha Cult One-pagers and Mythras Encounter Tool updates and Mythras GM Charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Post 1518, I would expect there to be a lot of events about the Jann''s conquest of various places, perhaps a long standing battle between the Janns and the leaders of the Tsanyano. There would also be dynastic politics among the Janns which has been modelled in the past on the Ottomans. Kareeshtu has been around since the collapse of the Confederation in 1340. The mode of its rule appears to be enslave a city's gods and remove them to Tondiji. Archidomides appears to tolerate allies within his Empire as it's not clear how the apparently autonomous Katele and Njenaguya fit within the empire. Hence it is unclear how much of Kareeshtu is subservient to Archidomides and how much of it obeys Archidomides because their gods have been enslaved. I make this distinction because I can see the Shakh of Njenaguya revolting against Archidomides and getting crushed for instance, I find it hard to imagine a city with its gods enslaved doing the same. Because of this, I imagine Kareeshtu's internal politics is that of an alliance of which Archidomides carefully and gradually acquires power through the crushing of cities and fiefs that have failed to pay their taxes. Over the decades, he has grown from being one of many leaders into being the leading light of Karesshtu. Hence Kareeshtu's internal politics over the time period in question would be the destruction of one or more magnates of Kareeshtu at the hands of Archidomides. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 11 hours ago, metcalph said: Post 1518, I would expect there to be a lot of events about the Jann''s conquest of various places Agreed. This seems implied by the comment: "proclaimed himself the Jann of Afadjann and enslaved many of the cities of that land." It's likely to have suffered several changes in rulers: "Since 1518, whoever rules the city [Homboro Tondo] is the Jann, no matter what his other holdings (if any) amid the tumultuous civil disputes of the area." Zandorffo is noted as the first city enslaved. Garguna is another city likely conquered in this period. Possibly Tavu eb Teba and Temissrah as well. Sarro is another that is controlled by the Jann. The Jann also seems to have gained control the fortresses at the Foreign Legion Pass in the Eredoth Mountains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord High Munchkin Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I am very interested in this topic - I certainly prefer Fonrit and Umathela as gaming locales. If an alternative PC creation background could be built up that would be mighty useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkokko Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lord High Munchkin said: I am very interested in this topic - I certainly prefer Fonrit and Umathela as gaming locales. If an alternative PC creation background could be built up that would be mighty useful. This is character generation for Fonrit for my game - YGWV as will your game systems. Currently gathering input and thinking about the history of Fonrit for tying the character more into the game. https://notesfrompavis.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/fonrit-background-and-culture-for-players/ Edited April 15, 2017 by hkokko Quote My Glorantha/Mythras blog with Glorantha Cult One-pagers and Mythras Encounter Tool updates and Mythras GM Charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metcalph Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Afadjann's internal governance is also murky. In the 1518 enthronement, the Jann is described as enslaving many (as opposed to all) of the cities of that land. So I did a look up of which cities were explicitly described as being controlled by the Jann. I left out Mastalabark which is in Kareeshtu so the Jann is probably the city Jann rather than the Jann of Afadjann. Ategeganda: Kafeamoro and Nemabu Kanem Dar: Hombori Tondo, Zandorrfo and Tevashoros. Siwah El is described as free with the Jann making increasing demands of the city so he can enslave it.. Gargosganda: Garguna ,Tavu eb Teba and Temissrah Abdjab is subject to Garguna and not the Jann and so fell into the Jann's orbit in 1518 when the Jann conquered Garguna. Since a High Priest of Darleester the Noose resides in Garguna, I think that he was enslaved as part of the new Jann's ascension (Whereas during the previous dynasty, he might have ruled as Jann (but as not the Jann of Afadjann). Sarroganda: Sarro. So it's clear that the Jann has a number of cities in each march enslaved so as to keep the other free cities in line. What's interesting is that the Jann has enslaved no cities in Yrania. My guess is that the city rulers of that land are so fearful of another eruption of Yranian Leapers that they willingly accept the leadership of the Jann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkokko Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 Fonrit Background and Culture for Players Currently playing a campaign near Fonrit - one of the more intriguing areas of Glorantha. Expecting some new players to join and maybe eventually some players needing to roll a new character so wanted to formalize the creation of the characters in Fonrit for my campaign and game system I use. This may be of some use to others as well. The authoritative source is of course Guide to Glorantha. In Volume 1 there exists a detailed description of the culture of Fonrit and in Volume 2 description of the places. Now there is a character generation that points to few well known sources for the players to read. Generation takes into account Social class (Masarins, Slave Soldiers, Yad Slaves and Kaddam Slaves) and Languages including Tradetalk. It has a variation of standard skills and professional skills that is based on Civilized background. It looks at careers available for each of the social classes. Combat styles include the combat style traits and weapons associated with the combat style. Combat styles currently include Kadam Slave Scuffle, Yad Strife, Slave Soldier, Harem Protector, Calari Grip, Afadjann Blade Dance, Kareeshtu Doublecross, Ompalam Overseer and Shovel Tusker/Elephant Cavalry. Folk Magic includes the starting spell selection where choices like Shock, Vigour, Tire, Voice, Find Slave, Incognito, Calm and Glamour reflect the society. Passions include the support for Renewed or Oldster and the society expected ones and Masarin's preoccupation with being the best dressed persons in Glorantha. There is also a link to pregenerated characters in Fonrit for one off games. The material is for one game system and tries to follow the latest developments in the official material. Perhaps it will be useful for any other game systems as well. https://notesfrompavis.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/fonrit-background-and-culture-for-players/ Quote My Glorantha/Mythras blog with Glorantha Cult One-pagers and Mythras Encounter Tool updates and Mythras GM Charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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