RosenMcStern Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 We are now approaching the time for a new print run of Revolution D100. While we have sticked to a softcover for the first print run and for the copies that will come with Red Moon Rising, the book itself could use a hardcover edition. But even if a hardcover would be more appropriate to the size of the core rules, such a book would cost much more than the current edition, easily reaching a $50 tag or more. Before making any decision, what do you customers think of the idea? Would it be worth the additional expense? Would the additional usability be worth the price? Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankcam Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Most hardcover rpg books retail around the $50 USD, so I dont think thats a major issue. I know hardcovers look better on the store shelves, and personally I prefer nice hardcovers, otherwise I tend to go for pdfs instead. Edited June 9, 2017 by Mankcam Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsanford Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I prefer, and am willing to pay a premium, for hardcover. Quote Check out our homebrew rules for freeform magic in BRP -> No reason for Ars Magica players to have all the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobarstep Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I voted, but I'll throw my voice in here as well. I'd prefer a hardcover. Mostly because I already have a softcover and I'll potentially have another from the RMR Kickstarter. Hardcovers also tend to lay flat on the table better than softcovers in a book this size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I voted softcover, as I don't really like hardcovers at all. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I definitely prefer hardcover to softcover. Costs more, but it holds up better and looks better IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansophy Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I prefer hardcover, as they open nicely and stay flat on the table. If a book is not a softcover, I usually print it out myself on 100gsm paper and do a Japanese Bookbinding to it. Not too interested in soft cover books, as they tend to fall apart after heavy usage. Quote My Uploads - BRP and new: Revolution D100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconjurer Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Softcover with a spiral binding is the best for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 After a first round of inverstigations about the feasibility of a hardcover - which seems to be the most popular option - we are still stuck with an undesirable price tag, unless we decrease the quality of the binding, with the consequent risk of the volume falling apart if you use it at the table. Question: assuming we launch a crowdfunding to update the production line to hardcover without over-taxing customers, would some of the current users of the system support it or would anyone cry scandal because we re-crowdfund a few days after delivering the last reward of the original cf? The CF would be strictly a "give us the money, get your hardback in a month or so, printing and shipping time" affair. No fancy stuff that requires more production time, as we are already at work on Red Moon Rising. 2 Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankcam Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) I certainly wouldn't be crying scandal - these days I prefer either pdfs for my tablet, or good quality hardcovers for my book shelf, and don't really see the point of having anything in-between. So I would invest in the hardcover. But that's just me... Edited July 4, 2017 by Mankcam 1 Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000buffalo Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I'd not cry scandal, and while I don't have a real demand for a hardback version, I do like them and would probably pledge to get one (if it were to come around). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsanford Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 6 hours ago, RosenMcStern said: After a first round of inverstigations about the feasibility of a hardcover - which seems to be the most popular option - we are still stuck with an undesirable price tag, unless we decrease the quality of the binding, with the consequent risk of the volume falling apart if you use it at the table. Question: assuming we launch a crowdfunding to update the production line to hardcover without over-taxing customers, would some of the current users of the system support it or would anyone cry scandal because we re-crowdfund a few days after delivering the last reward of the original cf? The CF would be strictly a "give us the money, get your hardback in a month or so, printing and shipping time" affair. No fancy stuff that requires more production time, as we are already at work on Red Moon Rising. I would support it. Quote Check out our homebrew rules for freeform magic in BRP -> No reason for Ars Magica players to have all the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobarstep Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I wasn't in on the original KS (though I did back RMR), but I'd back the hardcover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansophy Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 where do I have to sign? 1 Quote My Uploads - BRP and new: Revolution D100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiisu81 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 7/4/2017 at 8:52 AM, Mankcam said: I certainly wouldn't be crying scandal - these days I prefer either pdfs for my tablet, or good quality hardcovers for my book shelf, and don't really see the point of having anything in-between. So I would invest in the hardcover. But that's just me... Exactly this. I'll gladly pay more for a smyth-sewn hardcover! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosenMcStern Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 We have good news coming soon for hardcover fans 1 Quote Proud member of the Evil CompetitionTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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