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Please explain how summoning/binding demons work

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Hi all

I'm a total MW newbie and I'm having a hard time understanding how the whole summoning /  binding process works. I have both the corebook and Advanced Sorcery and the info is scattered all over the place, sometimes it's repeated although slightly changed and it get's really confusing.

Could someone please make step by step analysis including the Magic Points/ POW costs?

Pretty please?????




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OK I'm gonna first try to build a Demon for you to see if I'm doing anything wrong (which I'm 100% sure I am!)

Suppose I have a setting that all Demons are unique and thus they have premade stats. I'm going to use the info in Advanced Sorcery to build one and then I'd like someone to guide me through the process of summoning / binding it

Advanced Sorcery says that there are Lesser and Greater demons. Let's build a Greater one!

"A greater demon totals not less than 25 D8s of characteristic, and among them must be not less than 4D8 POW. An unlimited number of skills or abilities maybe at 110 percent or more"

OK, so I'm going to build one with exactly 25D8s of characteristics
4d8 are reserved for POW so we're left with 21D8 to spend on the other stats (and I'm rolling them in the parenthesis)

STR 4d8 (18)
CON 4d8 (22)
SIZ 10d8 (56)
DEX 1d8 (2)
INT 1d8 (8)
POW 4d8 (11)
APP 1d8 (1)

*I guess this is a semi-intelligent , clumsy, gruesome but huge, strong and tough demon!*

MOV (DEX/2) : 1
Hit Points : 39
Damage Bonus: +4d6

Now I guess I have to calculate the magic point cost of the above stats....I think I'm supposed to use the table at Advanced Sorcery page 37
but I don't really understand....

"4 per 1D8 STR, CON, SIZ, INT, POW, DEX, or MOV - 1 magic point. Lesser demons always cost 3D8 for
POW. Greater demons always cost at least 4D8 for POW."


Is it for 4 Magic Points per 1d8 of stat (and doesn't APP count towards that) and 1 magic point per MOV? So is it going to be 97 magic points??? (24*4 for the d8 stats not counting the 1d8 used in APP + 1 magic point for MOV:1)

No matter...Let's give him some skills/abilities now using the Demon Abilities table on Advanced Sorcery p38

Tentacle 110% (MP Cost = 11)
Darkness 10 yards (MP Cost = 10)
Drain Muscle (MP Cost = 3)

So we have 11+10+3= 24 Magic Points

That's a total of 97+24 = 121 magic point cost.....How one is supposed to have enough POW to summon a demon like that???

I'm pretty sure I'm reading this wrong. In the Summon Spell entry in the corebook (p. 125) it states that "The total expenditure of Magic
Points is 6 for a Lesser Demon and 9 for a Greater Demon"
so that can't be right! On the other hand the Great Demon entry in the corebook (p. 166) doesn't even have d8 for stats so maybe Advanced Sorcery changed the way Demons are constructed?
Still, 9 Magic Points vs 121 Magic Points is a huuuuuuge difference...

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