Mankcam Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, goal:dilmun said: The RQ- lettering looks really bad. The font is ugly and the gradient coloring makes it look cheap and homemade. The two that Mankham mentions above is by far the best ones, in my opionion, though I like the first one, the one that wasn't used, the best. It's fantastic actually. The only things that doesn't work well on that one are the runes and the subtitle, but that could have been solved. The new one works well. Very concise and functional. However I am coming to the conclusion that the one which was never used is perhaps the best. It references RQ3 as well as referencing the RQ2 lettering on the hardcover edition (on the book itself, not the dustjacket) It has a great fantasy flavour for me. Would really look great embossed in silver or gold on a hard cover Edited March 22, 2018 by Mankcam 1 Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankcam Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 A poll may be good for something like this...😁 Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Mankcam said: A poll may be good for something like this...😁 I would honestly rather not see one. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goal:dilmun Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mankcam said: The new one works well. Very concise and functional. However I am coming to the conclusion that the one which was never used is perhaps the best. It references RQ3 as well as referencing the RQ2 lettering on the hardcover edition (on the book itself, not the dustjacket) It has a great fantasy flavour for me. Would really look great embossed in silver or gold on a hard cover I might have been a bit too harsh in my wording. The final one works ok. It's just not great. Anyway, I really think it would look better with just a solid fill color and a darker outline, like the CoC logo. If the plan is to go with clean and functional, that's a style that would sell that idea a lot better. But I'm not a designer, so I might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 hours ago, SDLeary said: Um... Really? I like the layout, the color works on a black background. And should work on a book cover if it is a black cover. Over a piece of artwork without a background (going from tradition here) not so much. And the main title font... you need a new font. SDLeary We have differently colored variants of it, for all cover treatments. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, goal:dilmun said: I might have been a bit too harsh in my wording. The final one works ok. It's just not great. Anyway, I really think it would look better with just a solid fill color and a darker outline, like the CoC logo. If the plan is to go with clean and functional, that's a style that would sell that idea a lot better. But I'm not a designer, so I might be wrong. Here's the thing. The RuneQuest logo needs to be readable on the spine of the book. Ideally, at a distance. The one we didn't use (with the ornate scrollwork at top and bottom) is too thick vertically for easy placement. So you have to remove the runes and the red designwork to make it fit. At that point, it's another Celtic uncial title, which we were not thrilled with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goal:dilmun Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Jason Durall said: Here's the thing. The RuneQuest logo needs to be readable on the spine of the book. Ideally, at a distance. The one we didn't use (with the ornate scrollwork at top and bottom) is too thick vertically for easy placement. So you have to remove the runes and the red designwork to make it fit. At that point, it's another Celtic uncial title, which we were not thrilled with. Ah. Well. Irrefutable point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goal:dilmun Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Actually, I should apologize for the wording in my previous post. I never should have used the words "ugly" and "cheap". They are unnecesseraly derogative, and actually do not reflect my view of the artwork. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Scott Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 @Jason Durall's design notes are excellent and leads us through the complex array of historical design and current thinking. I look forward to the complete cover as currently this has the feeling of watching someone choosing a hat to wear. You'd look better in that old hat, new hat, a different hat, a hat my mother had, a different material, it looks like this hat, you don't want a hat you want a scarf, my hat is nicer than your hat, etc. The complete outfit is what I want (at some point). It will undoubtedly be eye catching, have a name badge identifying the authors and a Chaosium brooch and most will buy it anyway even if it had a unicorn hat. (apologies for not using the new logo, it didn't fit in with my unicorn theme and I couldn't find a pink Chaosium logo) 7 8 Quote ----- Search the Glorantha Resource Site: https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com. Search the Glorantha mailing list archives: https://glorantha.steff.in/digests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreJarosch Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, David Scott said: @Jason Durall's design notes are excellent and leads us through the complex array of historical design and current thinking. I look forward to the complete cover as currently this has the feeling of watching someone choosing a hat to wear. You'd look better in that old hat, new hat, a different hat, a hat my mother had, a different material, it looks like this hat, you don't want a hat you want a scarf, my hat is nicer than your hat, etc. The complete outfit is what I want (at some point). It will undoubtedly be eye catching, have a name badge identifying the authors and a Chaosium brooch and most will buy it anyway even if it had a unicorn hat. (apologies for not using the new logo, it didn't fit in with my unicorn theme and I couldn't find a pink Chaosium logo) You can always make a dustcover for RQG of your liking, if you don´t like what the final RQG logo will look like. Even a unicorn cover with a pink RQ logo! :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankcam Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Jason Durall said: I would honestly rather not see one. Yes, fair enough, it would just be chaos heh heh Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenx Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 David, you ever need a pink version of the RQ logo, drop me a line and something can be arranged. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankcam Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 David Scott WINS !!! 3 Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid a bod yn dwp Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Jason Durall said: At that point, it's another Celtic uncial title, which we were not thrilled with. Yes agreed too generic, and wrong feel for RuneQuest Glorantha. This new logo has character for me. It shirks the generic fantasy feel, and brings something distinctive to the table. I really like how it works with the runes and contrasting lettering underneath too. I think the designer has achieved a good characterful balance....I’m so pleased Chaosium didn’t stick with the last logo. This does RuneQuest much more justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 hours ago, David Scott said: @Jason Durall's design notes are excellent and leads us through the complex array of historical design and current thinking. I look forward to the complete cover as currently this has the feeling of watching someone choosing a hat to wear. You'd look better in that old hat, new hat, a different hat, a hat my mother had, a different material, it looks like this hat, you don't want a hat you want a scarf, my hat is nicer than your hat, etc. The complete outfit is what I want (at some point). It will undoubtedly be eye catching, have a name badge identifying the authors and a Chaosium brooch and most will buy it anyway even if it had a unicorn hat. (apologies for not using the new logo, it didn't fit in with my unicorn theme and I couldn't find a pink Chaosium logo) Who showed you that?!? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styopa Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Jason Durall said: I would honestly rather not see one. Was just going to say the same thing. I understand in 2018 the idea of a poll seems like a good idea, but this is a flagship brand for the company. That's not something you really want to the "Boaty McBoatface" internet voters. I could certainly see opening it up for submissions, with the winner signing over all rights in exchange for a free copy of the rules or something. But the company and it's management would need to OWN the choice, not vote for it. Too serious a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styopa Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 hours ago, David Scott said: I will be making a dust cover for the RQG rules from this, and will certainly be uploading it for sharing. I mean, it's critical we protect important books. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GianniVacca Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 5 Quote 「天朝大國」，https://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/92874/celestial-empire 很有意思: http://celestialempire.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Sadique Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Personally, I really prefer the recent rocking Logo (up there)... The design is more modern, a better use of lightning and relief but there is still a "old school" feeling. In comparison, the new choosen one feel dull mainly because the blend of yellow-white to yellow combined with another yellow border is poor in term of contrast. The font use is too smooth for such colors choice which could be more effective with the font use for the sub-title... But if you tweak the colors, you found out that the problem is not necessarily the Fonts (Which I don't like) nor the simplicity of the design (I don't like it either). Not so bad with a Simple Color inverted wich create a darker borderline and a sunset type colour blend ! ... And With any other Colors... it's still OK...(I could even say it's great :p) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Mankcam said: Yes, fair enough, it would just be chaos heh heh Or we'd end up renaming the game Runey McRuneface. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 hours ago, styopa said: I understand in 2018 the idea of a poll seems like a good idea, but this is a flagship brand for the company. That's not something you really want to the "Boaty McBoatface" internet voters. Haha! I just saw this as I was scrolling down the page. Pick one: a ) Great minds think alike. b ) Fools run in the same circles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason D Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, GianniVacca said: You are greatly exaggerating my role in the development, or just following alphabetical order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjerwin Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, GianniVacca said: Murni the Mouser goes on top of books, as all initiates of the Knowing God are aware. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWP Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, David Scott said: Oh man. Now I want this so bad. There's a glaring fault, however. One of those duelling figures needs two horns. How will we know it's a broo otherwise? The other figure needs a glowing star on its arse. (Is there a rune for "pony"?) Hmm ... Hasbro's RuneQuest ... Magic is Forever. Edited March 22, 2018 by BWP Quote "I want to decide who lives and who dies." Bruce Probst Melbourne, Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankcam Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, styopa said: Was just going to say the same thing. I understand in 2018 the idea of a poll seems like a good idea, but this is a flagship brand for the company. That's not something you really want to the "Boaty McBoatface" internet voters. I could certainly see opening it up for submissions, with the winner signing over all rights in exchange for a free copy of the rules or something. But the company and it's management would need to OWN the choice, not vote for it. Too serious a thing. I actually suggested a poll in jest, hence the 'smiley face' to hopefully convey that. I think they tend to be useless for these things, but they show up all the time in forums Edited March 22, 2018 by Mankcam Quote " Sure it's fun, but it is also well known that a D20 roll and an AC is no match against a hefty swing of a D100% and a D20 Hit Location Table!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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