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On 2/2/2019 at 9:45 AM, Paid a bod yn dwp said:

1. In opposed combat rolls, where one combatant has a combat skill over 100%, is it parry% or attack% over 100 that is used to figure out any penalty?  I ask because Parry% can vary from attack%, either through splitting attacks, or through the cumaltive parry penalty rule.

What are you trying to do when you're figuring a penalty? If you're attacking and the ability to attack is modified due to a penalty, use that. If you're trying to parry and your ability to parry is modified, use that. 

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2. If a highly skilled combatant (150%) spilts their attack, does parry remain unaltered initially? For example an attack of 150% is split for two attacks of 75%. Does the parry remain at 150% before any culmaltive penalty? 

Split. You're diverting your focus into two 75% usages. Penalties should be applied to the 75%.

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On 2/9/2019 at 6:36 PM, PhilHibbs said:

Countermagic spirit spell:

Shield rune spell:

Does the order of casting of Countermagic and Shield matter?

If I cast Countermagic 1 then Shield 2, does the Countermagic get taken down by the shield? If I cast Countermagic 3 then Shield 2, would the Shield 2 be blocked?

Do I need to cast them in the other order, with the Countermagic powerful enough to get past the Shield? e.g., if I cast Shield 1, do I need to cast Countermagic 4 in order to get them to stack (as a spell lower than 4 points would normally be countered by the Shield's Countermagic 2)?

Or, do Countermagic and Shield always stack regardless of the order and power of the spells?

I think I covered this in Basic Roleplaying, but generally, a rule of thumb would be to start with the defender's body as being the closest/last line of defense, and then work outward. 

  • Protection 1st
  • Shield 2nd
  • Countermagic 3rd 

So then from an outside attack, these would be in reverse order, with the attack hitting Countermagic first, then Shield, then Protection.

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On 2/12/2019 at 12:49 PM, CBDunkerson said:

1: Pg 167 says that mounts must be trained separately to; accept a rider, remain calm in battle, fight in battle and increase their three attack skills up to 50% below the trainer's ride skill. Training to accept a rider is stated to take a week. How long do the other types of training take?

The other types of training takes many months, if not years. This can depend hugely on the culture, the environment, the amount of attention provided, and the facilities. 

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Also, does a war trained mount immediately get 50% below the trainer's skill in attacks or does that have to be trained separately (or separately for each attack)?

 

Those are general guidelines. Assume that when a fully-trained warhorse is purchased it will be trained at those levels. If you for some reason desire more granularity, please ask your gamemaster.

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On 2/12/2019 at 12:49 PM, CBDunkerson said:

2: Is Martial Arts treated like a weapon for special and critical success purposes? That is, does a critical Martial Arts roll do max damage and bypass armor?

You don't roll Martial Arts. It's a threshold. 

If you have a Martial Arts skill of 30% and, say, Fist 75%, any roll of Fist equaling 01-30 triggers the benefits of Martial Arts, and any roll of 31-75 is just a normal Fist attack. 

If your original attack roll is a special/crit AND it is below your Martial Arts skill, then you apply the benefits of the Martial Arts skill (double damage, normal damage bonus). 

Similarly, anyone can parry with a limb, but if the Parry roll is less than the Martial Arts skill, then it blocks 6 points of damage.

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On 2/14/2019 at 10:51 PM, Glorion said:

Can a Trickster casting Hallucination see a door in a wall for example that nobody else can see, and walk through it? I'm hoping the answer is yes, as that sort of thing was a favorite of my old RQ2 Trickster. I called it "the roadrunner spell."

That would be an extraordinarily powerful 1-pt spell. 

As a gamemaster, I'd rule that yes, they could cast the spell and open that illusory door. What's on the other side of that door, if anything... that's the chance the trickster takes.

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On 2/15/2019 at 11:55 AM, Michael Cule said:

Another shaman related question:

This is four questions. 

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The spirit spell Control [Entity] is one that shamans will find useful. However, I need to know how specific that spell is when applied to spirits. 

I've already told my shaman player that there can't be a single Control Spirit which works on everything but I need to know how far he will have to specialise.

Look to the Bestiary. You might break it down to Animal Spirits, Demons, Disease Spirits, Healing Spirits, Plant Spirits, Ghosts, Guardian Spirits, Landscape Spirits, Nymphs, etc. 

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The description implies that there is a separate Control for Elementals. Does this also imply a separate Control Fire Elemental, Control Wind Elemental etc? 

Yes. It's Control Cult Spirit, which is usually specialized by type. 

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Is a discorporate human spirit a different thing if it's living or dead? Do Wraiths need their own spell? What about nature spirits? Help!

Yes, a discorporated human is a discorporated human, not technically a spirit. A human's spiritual being whose "owner" is dead is a ghost or a wraith. Different things. Nature spirits are spirits.

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On 2/16/2019 at 5:58 PM, Michael Cule said:

How does one set up a new shrine for a Rune cult?

The book talks about this being a thing one might be asked to do by one's cult but only details of how to start a spirit shrine are given.

This is a task beyond any hard-and-fast rules set. You'll need to work with your gamemaster to determine the costs of the physical location, the social/civil negotiation required to build it, the procurement of labor and materials, and the process of having a Rune Priest or God-talker come in and Sanctify the place. If in doubt, consider it a case of casting a multi-point Sanctify with Extension to last at least a year. The particular god may have requirements above and beyond these, such as Ernalda demanding an underground chamber, Yelm an eternal fire, etc. 

The upcoming RuneQuest Campaign Guide contains a bit more about temples and shrines, with some ballpark prices, but does not go into great detail.

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On 7/10/2019 at 3:27 PM, Michael Cule said:

Yet more to try your patience.

On page 416 we read:

To have a chance at improving a skill though training, an adventurer must train with an instructor for an entire season, and can do little else.

Does that mean:

No adventuring that season? 
No practicing your profession that season? (And forgoing the professional and cult skill improvement chances mentioned in the previous paragraph.)

You can make experience rolls, but you can't do anything else that would take your mind away from practice.

No practicing your profession, no training other abilities, etc. It's a full-time regimen of study.

Certainly not adventuring.

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On 2/16/2019 at 9:22 PM, raskal said:

The rule says "Who goes first and in what order during a melee round is determined by strike ranks". But in phase 2. "Movement of Non-Engaged Characters" in which order the move of unengaged characters and monsters is made ?

Use common sense. If in doubt or to resolve a tie, use MOV rate or DEX as the determiner (higher goes first).

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On 2/17/2019 at 2:43 AM, CBDunkerson said:

The Spirit Binding spell (pg 265) states;

I couldn't find any information about 'special cult-bred animals' in the Spirits chapter.

This (poorly) refers to the practice for cults to have animals sacred to that god kept and bred within the temple grounds. Ernalda temples are likely full of snakes, Orlanthi temples might keep a sacred cattle pen, Eiritha cows, Engizi a pool of fish, Issaries maybe birds, etc. 

Eurmal would have a bunch of raccoons who run around loose and get into other temples, because they're like that. 

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What is this meant to refer to? The 'allied spirits' gained by rune master sound similar, but those are said to be sent by the god and have different listed abilities than bound spirits. At that, the term 'familiar' appears in the text of this spell and nowhere else in the book. Is a familiar the same thing as a spirit bound animal as described on page 250, or something else?

Yes, a familiar is a bound spirit animal.

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On 3/3/2019 at 12:02 PM, Black Knight said:

The starting equipment for Noble characters (p.70) does not include any armour on abdomen hit location, as Bronze (Plate) Cuirass only protects chest. The same problem is with the character Harmast (p.88), whose equipment is based on this list. Notably, the Harmast's hit location table (p.89) still incorrectly states that he has 6 AP on abdomen.

I suppose the "Bronze/Plate Cuirass" on both these places should actually be Bronze Plate, Segmented (according to the table on p.215).

Yes, read that as a hauberk.

It's been corrected in Harmast's writeup for future publications. 

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On 3/10/2019 at 7:47 PM, CBDunkerson said:

Is the Restore Health rune spell intended to be the only way of recovering lost characteristic points? The Core rulebook doesn't seem to list any way of naturally recovering from disease and other things that cause characteristic loss.

Unless contradicted in the rules, assume one characteristic point is restored each season a successful CONx5 roll is made. If the characteristic point loss lasts beyond a year, it is not recovered. See the rules for recovering from Blotches (page 155) for a specific instance of this recovery rate. 

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On 3/8/2019 at 7:42 AM, HreshtIronBorne said:

How do the Shaman Ability Spell Barrage and the Common Divine Spell Multispell interact with each other?

They would stack, if the gamemaster allows it. 

When trying to stack them, determine which are the Multispelled spells and which are the ones due to Spell Barrage.

The Multispells are treated as separate instances and the Barrage is all-or-nothing.

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On 3/16/2019 at 10:37 AM, Brootse said:

Can non-Sorcery spells be cast upon the Sorcery spell Protective Circle?

Yes.

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And can Boon of Kargan Tor be cast on the Protective Circle?

Was the first line of the spell description - "This spell must be cast on a weapon." - unclear?

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On 3/17/2019 at 3:30 PM, LivingTriskele said:

Four Phases in a Melee Round (p. 192)

I'm a little confused by the logic of putting the movement of non-engaged characters (phase 2) before the resolution of missile attacks and spells (phase 3).

In this I must defer to the prior designers of the game (Steve Perrin, Greg Stafford, and company). It's been that way since RQ1 and making such a fundamental change to the mechanics of combat was both outside the design goal and something Jeff and I weren't interested in doing. 

 

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If I'm reading this correctly, a non-engaged melee combatant can move half his/her movement, close in on a target that is armed with a missile weapon, and attack before that target gets a chance to fire. Wouldn't it make more sense to have phase 2 include both the movement of non-engaged characters AND the resolution of missiles and spells?

It is, I believe, very specifically to keep things relatively clear and to disincentivize ranged combatants from getting within movement range of melee opponents

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Maybe abolish theses phases all together and just go with Strike Rank order?

If that makes things easier for you, Your RuneQuest May Vary.

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On 3/17/2019 at 9:45 PM, Bill the barbarian said:

I am bit unsure how to count the missile strike ranks. If PC's DEX SR is 2, do I count it like:

2 (shoot) + 5 (loading a new missile) + 2 (shoot), which would give strike ranks 2 / 9 (third shot not allowed)

If they are ready to shoot on SR2 with an arrow in hand, then yes. 

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or

2 (shoot) + 5 (loading a new missile + shoot) +  5 (loading a new missile + shoot), which would give strike ranks 2 / 7 / 12

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a a PC DEX SR  of 0 (DEX 19+), so you could potentially go on

1 (shoot) 6 (shoot) 11(shoot)  depending on how you interpret DEX SR 0.
This question and which solution is correct especially as regards SR 0 has bothered my since pre-internet BBS only days!

Nope.

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On 3/20/2019 at 11:11 PM, Bill the barbarian said:

In regards to Multispelling a disrupt spell. The rules as to Multispelling non-compatible spirtit spells state that ..

"The only exception to this is the Disruption spell, which can be combined with itself and resolved as one attack doing 2D3 damage to one hit location:"

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1) One can infer that seeing as the spell is stackable one can take the italicized text and add a d3 per point of stacking. But is that inferance correct
 i.e. stacking twice for cost of 2 RP results in one attack doing 3d3 points of damage to one hit location at a cost of 2 MPs. 

2) Or does stacking allow one to toss another doubled disrupt per stacking at another target (another inference)?

Multispell (1 pt.) costs 1 Rune point to cast. Disruption costs 1 magic point per use. Spending 1 Rune point and 2 magic points lets you cast a double-strength Disruption spell. 

If you spend 2 Rune points, you can add another casting of Disruption to the mix, for a total of 2 Rune points and 3 magic points to cast a 3D3 Disruption spell. 

This continues per additional Rune point spent. 

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Okay this is a long post so I'm hoping that I can make it clear. 

On 3/22/2019 at 4:30 PM, g33k said:

SR's, Engagement, Statement of Intent --

Some character, C, makes a SoI that they will move past a potential foe, F, to engage a BigBad (outside the scope of these questions).

C has a very-high DEX, acting early in the round.

F is already Engaged in an ongoing melee with another character, R (who may react to what happens below); F's SoI is attack & defend vs R.

F has a very-high SR, acting late in the round.

DirectorGM:  Action!

C moves into melee range of F, intending to move past.

Q1:  Are C&F automatically "Engaged"?

No. They're not paying attention to one another. They're participating in the same combat, though. 

What's the area the combat is taking place in? How close is C getting to F? You say "move past" but does that mean within weapon range of F or does it mean three meters away? 

Is there some reason that C can't get to BB without interfering with F, who is otherwise occupied? Why can't C make their move and keep F and R out of it?  

There's too much unknown here, and unless you're breaking out the battlemat or using minis, the gamemaster needs to make some decisions about what's happening vs. relying on guidelines. 

 

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Q2:  If Q1 is "Yes" does C need to Knockback/Disengage/Flee (vs F) to continue moving past?  Is that implicit in C's SoI?

See the above. 

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Q3:  If Q2 is "Yes" and C chooses to "Flee" does F get an unopposed attack, even though attacking C (or anyone attempting to move-by) was not part of their SoI?

Q4:  If Q3 is"Yes" -- Does F's attack on C occur on F's SR (even though C's movement "happened" on an earlier SR), or on one of the SR's-worth of Movement that C declared?

Q5:  If F attacked C on Q3/Q4, what happens to F's SoI & their SoI-declared attack on R?  Did they "use up" their action attacking C; or is that a "free" attack?

If you decide that for some reason C's movement is the equivalent of disengaging from F (when they're not actively paying attention to one another), then that attack is as described on page 195, a free attack which cannot be parried or dodged. This should be immediate and not affect the attacker's normal SR action. 

 

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Q6:  R (whose SoI was "Murderize F without being murderized back") is feeling really left out, and wonders if he gets any chance to react to all the stuff F is doing with C, any advantage from C's distraction, multiple-Engagement, etc...  and if so, what reactions/advantages?

If F has become engaged with C due to your interpretation of the situation, they could also take a free attack at C if they felt like it. 

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On 3/22/2019 at 8:07 PM, g33k said:

Axe Trance & Sword Trance --

Do these have any actual "trance" features as per, e.g., Arrow Trance?

I treat them the same. 

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Obviously, one would need to modify the exact features... e.g. Humakti will not "Heal" their iron swords, and will be free to parry!

But will the the Axe/Sword Trance'd only be aware of themselves and their foes?  Unaware e.g. of falling allies, larger strategic considerations?  If all the foes are fallen before the spell expires, do they just stand ready for more foes?

If the Tranced character has run out of targets, I'd say the spell ends, even if prematurely. Humakt has little interest in his warriors standing around pointlessly when they could be going off to get into more trouble elsewhere. The same could be said for Aldrya or Babeester Gor. The rules don't specifically spell this out but the gamemaster should be able to interpret the situation that way. 

Similarly, casting Extension on spells like this should only be useful for so long as the spell is useful. If, as a gamemaster, you want to have adventurers running around in a coldblooded murder zone, by all means allow it, but if you don't, remember that the gods themselves are linked to the Runes that these spells are cast with, the Rune points the spells were cast with were granted by those gods themselves, and the use of the spells should be in service to the god, or at least not wasted on idle tasks.  

Things that fall outside the province of the target/Trance dynamic are ignored, which is why it would be horrible to keep one of these spells going for longer than is absolutely necessary.

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On 4/6/2019 at 12:51 AM, gochie said:

Not sure if this belongs here, but I always wondered why the spirit spell Parry doesn't increase the armor of the shield/weapon... I mean if Bladesharp and all the others increase damage on top of the percentage, why not Parry? Seems a bit weak in comparison. 

We didn't see the need to change the spell. Given that we've conflated attack and parry chances, it seemed to be overmuch to add additional hit points to a weapon.

Weapons breaking or being damaged is a core feature of RQ combat, so anything that moves away from that is not particularly desirable. 

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On 4/7/2019 at 8:35 PM, gochie said:

Does Sureshot let you chose the location struck by the missile? I imagine it would, or else it wouldn't really help someone who is already good (96%+)?

No, you still roll hit location.

The benefit of Sureshot that it automatically hits. That means it can't be parried (with a shield) or dodged. You'll hit someone hiding behind a wall or moving or in the middle of melee. You can hit them in the dark. These are huge advantages.

You can, however, make an aimed blow at strike rank 12 (see page 197), cast Sureshot and use half your skill to determine whether it is a special or critical. 

 

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Also, can Illusory Substance be used alone to create a solid, invisible substance? For 4 points, could I wield an invisible weapon that deals 2D6 damage?

Not alone. Re-read the final sentence of Illusory Substance on page 332. You would need to cast Illusory Motion in tandem with it to be able to move and manipulate your 2D6 invisible weapon. You could create a stationary illusory spike under someone to fall on, but both spells would be needed for something you'd wield in combat.

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On 4/13/2019 at 4:12 PM, Connan said:

On page 227 (Using Runes) it states "An Elemental Rune may be used to augment the adventurer’s
chance with a single non-combat skill within its skills
category," but in the example given it states that Vasana is going to try to augment her Broadsword
skill by becoming inspired by her Air Rune. Which clearly isn't a non-combat skill. I'm confused.

Ignore the use of the word "non-combat" in this instance. In this case, the Air Rune governs all Manipulation skills, which fundamentally overlap with combat skills. Furthermore, swords fall under the influence of the Air Rune (see page 49) so they would use that Rune.

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On 4/15/2019 at 2:16 AM, gochie said:

If someone has Fireblade on an iron sword, do they deal 2x the fireblade damage to a troll or elf? 

No. It is now magically a magical blade of fire, not iron. Roll for the Fireblade damage instead.

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On 4/20/2019 at 6:46 AM, gochie said:

If your CHA isn't *only* physical appearance, what happens to it if you possess another person's body (Aka Shaman gift, or any other way)? Do you retain your charisma in the new body, do you now have their charisma, or a sort of merger of both? I'm assuming you keep yours, or you could lose spirit spells, but then could you still have 18 CHA as an ugly trolkin? 

I would argue yes, but I suggest capping it at the species' natural maximum.

For example, a trollkin possessed by a shaman with CHA 18 would be capped at CHA 14 (the trollkin max, 2D6 equaling 12+2 dice). This would be the Tom Hanks of trollkin. 

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