Blacktoad Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I read a story once, somewhere forgotten, about a bunch of newly initiated knuckle-head Humakti who decided to use their blessed gifts all on the same weapon. In effect this blessed a single sword with double damage, enhanced hit points, and the such... then they all fought each other to win the right to possess it. This started my brain thinking... First off, is a weapon blessed with Humakt's gift considered enchanted and thus magical? And secondly can a Humakti Blessed weapon be transferred? What happens to that weapon when the Humakti dies, riddled with broo arrows or lured into drinking poison laced ale from a not so friendly Eurmal trickster? Can the broo then pick up and use that weapon with all of its blessings? Can the Eurmal trickster? If it was initially, is it still an enchanted weapon? What if it is picked up (retrieved) by a fellow Humakti, will it retain its blessings? Toad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zozotroll Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 You are thinking of the lottery swords, which I dont think you can make anymore. A quick google should give you more details than I can. Great for one person, very poor for the rest of them, and I dont really see Humakt being happy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zozotroll Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Here is a link that will explain more than I ever could http://rpgreview.net/mob/lotteryswords.htm I think all of your questions are answered there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktoad Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 OMG that is hilarious. The story I read was most likely written with those rules in mind, but I have never seen them myself. Thanks for the link, I can not wait to use this in my campaign. I am still curious about the nature of a blessed weapon though, is it considered enchanted/magical? I would think so. Cheers, Toad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zozotroll Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 When the spell is active then yes I believe so. But otherwise, no, just a blade with spells on it waiting to be activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Blacktoad said: What happens to that weapon when the Humakti dies, riddled with broo arrows or lured into drinking poison laced ale from a not so friendly Eurmal trickster? Can the broo then pick up and use that weapon with all of its blessings? Can the Eurmal trickster? If it was initially, is it still an enchanted weapon? What if it is picked up (retrieved) by a fellow Humakti, will it retain its blessings? When the Humakti dies, or breaks the geas, the gift ends. 4 hours ago, Blacktoad said: I am still curious about the nature of a blessed weapon though, is it considered enchanted/magical? I would think so. 3 hours ago, Zozotroll said: When the spell is active then yes I believe so. But otherwise, no, just a blade with spells on it waiting to be activated. Spell? Humakti gift swords are permanently blessed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zozotroll Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Ah! I have not had a Humakti in over 20 years. Lots of stormbulls though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, Zozotroll said: Ah! I have not had a Humakti in over 20 years. Lots of stormbulls though Good thing Uroxi don't know about this. I could see a bunch of them getting together, buying the weapons and killing each other in fights before someone realizes that: Dead Uroxi can't take Gifts and Geases Live Uroxi cant take Gifts and Geases, either. 1 3 Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 3:54 AM, Zozotroll said: You are thinking of the lottery swords, which I dont think you can make anymore. Says a troll! I can see no reason as to why they can't be made. They were always outside the rules anyway, so should still be available. Just do it as a HeroQuest and you can do anything. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) On 1/2/2019 at 3:15 PM, Blacktoad said: OMG that is hilarious. The story I read was most likely written with those rules in mind, but I have never seen them myself. Thanks for the link, I can not wait to use this in my campaign. Here's the story: http://rpgreview.net/mob/jaxontheborderlands.htm Relevant section (Jaxarte Whyded is surprised to learn that his half-brother Goslem is Duke Raus's chief of mercenaries): "I was roused early the next day by Gos himself , who on the ride to the village of Weis told his story. After dad threw him out seven years ago, Gos made his way to Casino Town. He soon blew the last of his remittance money. Broke and without a friend, he joined the Humakt cult, taking up the life of an adventurer. Gos should have known that getting mixed up with a foreign cult is trouble .....and it was: Gos won the lottery. Humakti lotteries are a characteristic example of Esrolian decadence (in architecture alone could Esrolian style be considered virtuous - oh to see the fabled City of Wonders with its mile-high walls of crystal!). Unlike our own war cults, Humakti accept gifts and geases from their god, much in the same way Yelmalios do. Perhaps the best of these "gifts" are those that bless the warrior's weapon. One makes the blade stronger; another increases the damage one does with a weapon against certain parts of the body, and so on. The lottery works like this: a group of candidates for initiate status band together, pool their resources, and buy a very fancy sword. Instead of blessing their own weapons with their initiation gifts, they all bless this blade to make it extremely potent. Then, a series of Humakti duels are fought to see who gets the prize. Thus the blade goes into the hands of one, but all must still abide by their restrictive geases. My brother won fairly, but his disgruntled comrades retained the right to challenge him for the sword. It didn't take Gos long to realise that soon enough he'd either be dead, or without the cherished blade. Neither prospect thrilled him much, and he decided to leave Esrolia, taking the mighty sword with him (it was only after he told me this I noticed it was chained to his wrist). On 1/2/2019 at 2:54 PM, Zozotroll said: You are thinking of the lottery swords, which I dont think you can make anymore. There's no reason why Lottery Swords can't still be made. On 1/2/2019 at 2:54 PM, Zozotroll said: Great for one person, very poor for the rest of them, and I dont really see Humakt being happy with them. If the winner fairly earns the sword by winning a series of Humakti duels against all those who blessed it, I don't see why the big H would disapprove. The local Humakt temple might, for all the trouble it causes among the initiates. BTW, there is another variation where the last person left doesn't win the sword - instead the weapon is put into the temple treasury, to be claimed by the first participant to achieve rune lord status in the Humakt cult (lottery swords made for this method are usually iron). On 1/2/2019 at 8:02 PM, PhilHibbs said: When the Humakti dies, or breaks the geas, the gift ends. Spell? Humakti gift swords are permanently blessed. Yes, not a spell. As long as the Humakti who gave the gift stays true (and alive), the blessing remains, even if the sword is not in their possession. From the story, here is Goslem Whyded's Lottery Sword: Special Item: The Lottery Sword This is a finely-crafted enchanted iron broadsword, with a distinctive duck's head pommel. A fine but strong silver chain runs from the hilt to a wrist clasp. One of the eyes of the duck is a crystal that stores 17 magic points; the other socket is empty (it once contained a valuable gem, but Goslem was forced to pawn it). Fourteen Humakti participated in the lottery, of which nine remain faithful. Goslem won the right to wield the sword, defeating all of them in a series of duels. The sword is an extremely potent weapon, and possesses the following powers: POW 28 Sever Spirit strikes any participant who forswears the Oath taken at the outset of the lottery. 30 armour points. The sword does double damage, after armour is accounted for (this power is removed on the demise of "Stumpy": see Jaxarte on the Borderlands). The sword does quadruple damage (after armour) to the head, chest, right arm and left leg hit locations. The sword does quadruple damage (after armour) against trolls, humans and broos; and 8-times normal damage when striking these species in the hit locations specified above. Example: Goslem strikes a broo opponent in the left leg and rolls 1d8+1+1d4 for a total of 10 points damage. The broo makes its parry, and its already-notched mace blocks 6 points. Its soft leather leggings and its skin armour block another point each, leaving only 2 points to get through and into the broo. However, the lottery sword increases this damage eight-fold to 16 points. The GM rules that this is enough to take the limb clean off. Edited January 9, 2019 by MOB 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HreshtIronBorne Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I dunno if I should post here or a new thread. I was wondering how other people deal with Humakti gifts in their Glorantha. For example can an initiate taking his intial, up to three in RQG, gifts take the same gift multiple times? Can a new Sword taking as many gifts as he desires take the same gift multiple times? And my personal biggest question, do your Humakti gain Gift/Geas outside of the ceremony of initiation or becoming a Sword? It says in RQG Core book that the Sword can gain as many gift/geas as he desires, it doesn't specifically say right then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 It also raises the question, what do you do with that sweet loot that turns out to be a Lottery Sword? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 8:06 AM, HreshtIronBorne said: I dunno if I should post here or a new thread. Posting here is fine. On 3/8/2019 at 8:06 AM, HreshtIronBorne said: I was wondering how other people deal with Humakti gifts in their Glorantha. For example can an initiate taking his intial, up to three in RQG, gifts take the same gift multiple times? Sure, why not? I would count each time as a separate Gift, though, with another Geas. According to the writeup, it says "If the same geas is rolled twice, roll again.", but not the same Gift. Some Gifts make no sense if you roll them twice. For example rolling 6 gives you the Sense Assassin skill and rolling 8 gives you a Detect Undead ability. What I would do is make them both Skills, so you get Sense Assassin or Sense Undead, then if you roll them again you get Detect Assassin or Detect Undead. 1-5 and 7 can be stacked without a problem, 12 is fine if you want very fast MP regain and 9-11 are fine stacked, but some people prefer to go up in increments, x2 for 1st, x3 for 2nd, x4 for 3rd and so on rather than x2/x4/x8. On 3/8/2019 at 8:06 AM, HreshtIronBorne said: Can a new Sword taking as many gifts as he desires take the same gift multiple times? Yes. However, he also gets the Geas multiple times. On 3/8/2019 at 8:06 AM, HreshtIronBorne said: And my personal biggest question, do your Humakti gain Gift/Geas outside of the ceremony of initiation or becoming a Sword? It says in RQG Core book that the Sword can gain as many gift/geas as he desires, it doesn't specifically say right then. I play that a Humakti can take another Gift/Geas at a worship ceremony. However, if you view Humakti as knight-like then they could be doing some kind of vigil on the Humakt Temple, or could just swear an oath to Humakt. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Helsdon Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 7 hours ago, PhilHibbs said: It also raises the question, what do you do with that sweet loot that turns out to be a Lottery Sword? Wait for the surviving Humakti who placed their Gifts on it to come looking for you. And if you kill them, you lose their Gifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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