Runequest video game

[Jeff]

54 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said:

I need to ask this - what's your definition of the phrase "soon enough"?? It's been another 9 months without any hint about this.

I have reason to believe I won't be living much past another two and a half years - is there any chance I'm going to get to play this video game before then? (my current instincts tell me 'no'... or, if I do, I won't be impressed/excited).

It is moving along and on track. But when I can announce something, I will. And not before that.

[MOB]

On 10/20/2021 at 11:37 PM, Jeff said:

It is moving along and on track.

Update including video here!

 

[Jason Farrell]

It looks very... actiony.

[Akhôrahil]

56 minutes ago, Jason Farrell said:

It looks very... actiony.

Mounted Praxian action-RPG seems like it might work.

[Shiningbrow]

On 12/8/2022 at 10:01 PM, MOB said:

Update including video here!

 

Well, it took me a bit to finally see what this was about, cos I kept getting a "error in line end" or something, so I just searched for Irish Tax Breaks...

And, I'd like to offer my 2 bolgs worth (which I expect to be completely ignored by anyone who has any say in things...).

Firstly, I notice that while this seems to be a great thing for us RQ lovers, I'd also like to point out that Black Shamrock still can't be bothered to include this game on 'in development' section of their site.... This doesn't make me feel really confident... (things that make you go "hmmmmm").

Secondly, about the game play... and I have to obviously caveat that it's only a few brief seconds that we've seen, and obviously if this is part of the RQ game that's been promised, it may not be indicative of the whole game, and may just be a small section of how the game would be played.

But, as I was watching it, I was getting memories of something.... and it turned out it was League of Legends... And I certainly don't want to play LoL as an RQ game. I would turn me completely off. Later, I realised it's because it's a top-down game (which I - personally - really dislike most of the time). Which then reminded me of... Diablo, Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights... and as we may know, those last two are Dungeons and Dragons games!

Great!!! A Runequest game that's a copy of the best-selling D&D computer games....

 

Personally, if I want to play D&D, then I'll play a D&D game (yes, I am actually awaiting the full release of BG2).

But, I want to play a RQ RPG where I feel very involved in making lots of choices of skills to improve used in a variety of ways... not a vague tarnish of Glorantha shoved into a League of Legends mod.

I want an RPG where I feel that I'm the character i'm building - say, in first person. Something along the lines of the two best series of such RPGs ever made - The Witcher (granted, without skilltrees), and Elder Scrolls. That latter in particular being III: Morrowind - Thanks very much to Ken Rolston of RQIII fame, along with some of the amazing titles that came out at that time. Morrowind I prefer over it's following, Oblivion and Skyrim, because of the greater number of skills (although, I didn't like the graphics or the setting... but that's just me. I am eagerly awaiting the finalisation and release of the Skywind project!) And, I suspect I'm not alone in thinking that a Witcher/Elder Scrolls type RPG is what most RQ players want in their RQ RPG...

i want a game where I initially start out as a complete newb, and then later get offered a chance to initiate into a cult of my choice. I am part of a community, and the community leaders (who tend to be heads of the local cults - of the various factions that I can choose to start in) send me on quests which help me build my character and gain me favours. I can take companions (of other cults). At somet point in the future, I'll end up as a Rune Lord-Priest of my cult (yes, that would mean having to alter the RQG idea that not all cults have them), or maybe Rune Mastery of a couple of cults. I want an RPG that's not merely running around killing things (or simply grinding). And for the choices my character makes to have significant meaning in the gameworld (unlike Skyrim).

And, although Prax is an interesting place, I really hope that it's only a small part of the world, and that, like in the PnP version, there's a much larger map out there to adventure through.

So, at this moment in time, with the limited seconds we've seen... I'm actually disappointed (but not surprised!)

[svensson]

@Shiningbrow

I'm thrilled to see an RQ game in actual working development. And yes, the Rhino Rider in my heart loves seeing action in Prax.

But you're right, I'm REALLY hoping this isn't some looter-shooter Borderlands /Destiny /League of Legends clone. The whole idea of an RQ game that doesn't deal with RQ themes is a complete non-starter for me. Don't get me wrong, if you're into that kind of game, do your thing. Just don't put an RQ name on it.

What I want in any so-called 'RPG' title:

- Deep character building

- More than one way to meet goals [combat, magic, stealth, negotiation, whatever]

- Open World

- Single player, co-op strictly optional

- No. Fucking. Microtransactions. DO NOT try and sell me 'Assassin's Creed: Dragon Pass'. That would be an insult to every single designer and player who has shepherded Greg's vision.

What I want in an RQ game:

- The Runes to matter as much as they do on paper.

- RQ themes... Cattle raids, the Lunar Occupation, etc.

- Your cult to matter as much as your tribe.

- Making Rune Level to be real work

- HEROQUESTS!

And anything less than that will be DnD with the serial number filed off. Don't get me wrong here... I too am looking forward to BG3 [August 23 release date]. But I want a RuneQuest game...

In a perfect world, I want a game that is as gorgeous and open as Skyrim... with a deeper story, more RuneQuest elements, and a sense of achievement when you're done.

Edited December 16, 2022 by svensson

[French Desperate WindChild]

45 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said:

Great!!! A Runequest game that's a copy of the best-selling D&D computer games....

 

Personally, if I want to play D&D, then I'll play a D&D game (yes, I am actually awaiting the full release of BG2).

But, I want to play a RQ RPG where I feel very involved in making lots of choices of skills to improve used in a variety of ways... not a vague tarnish of Glorantha shoved into a League of Legends mod.

not sure at all it is a kind of rpg - I hope it is  but the demo shows me something different, and to be honest something I would not play because I dislike hack 'n' slash game. that is a personal taste, others may like it 🙂 ,

 

but diablo and co are not D&D gameplay: they are one way of rpg-computer using D&D rules. You may use the same "engine" to build a game with runequest statistics or with vampire statistic, or with amber statistics or with your own system of statistic. this kind of game existed before any  D&D  rules were implemented in such games.

 

I m pretty sure that, with the same engine, smart people would be able to develop a rq rpg where you will feel very involved, with all you described (and of course heroquest @svensson ! ) , it is "just" a question of number of leafs / nodes / situations / discussions the development team would implement, what kind of computer will be able to accept this volume of resources, and how much players would be able to pay (what you describe, - something I think great by the way - is very expensive to implement, not because the technic "only" but because the options to imagine, write and organize should... MUST... be huge) .

 

57 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said:

So, at this moment in time, with the limited seconds we've seen...

and that's the big point, we've not seen a lot (except if what we saw is the full gameplay, who knows ?!). I would appreciate to know what is the type of game, is it an hack 'n' slash ? is it a Zelda-like ? something else ?

 

1 hour ago, Shiningbrow said:

I'm actually disappointed (but not surprised!)

Imagine my position, I dreamt a (world of warcraft)-like 😛

Of course it was a dream

 

Don't know if I will like the game, as I don't know what it is.

But I hope the game will be published and will find its audience

[Shiningbrow]

1 hour ago, French Desperate WindChild said:

but diablo and co are not D&D gameplay: they are one way of rpg-computer using D&D rules.

Oh, true. I was referencing them not because those top-down games are D&D games, but because D&D games use the top-down approach (to easier handle a party formation).

1 hour ago, French Desperate WindChild said:

But I hope the game will be published and will find its audience

I t6hink it may well do so... but I have the feeling that the loyal fans of Runequest for over 40 years is not the target audience for this game... it's for the teens and tweens who have never heard of RQ, but know all about LoL and the like.

Personally, I think a Glorantha overhaul mod for Oblivion is the best way to go (or something very similar).

1 hour ago, svensson said:

In a perfect world, I want a game that is as gorgeous and open as Skyrim... with a deeper story, more RuneQuest elements, and a sense of achievement when you're done.

I totally agree with all you wrote!

And ducks!

[PhilHibbs]

On 12/16/2022 at 10:29 AM, French Desperate WindChild said:

🙂

but diablo and co are not D&D gameplay: they are one way of rpg-computer using D&D rules. You may use the same "engine" to build a game with runequest statistics or with vampire statistic, or with amber statistics or with your own system of statistic. this kind of game existed before any  D&D  rules were implemented in such games.

Sure, but what I want in a RuneQuest game set in Glorantha is more than just "Diablo with percentages under the hood". The "Gloranthan" part is more important to me than the "RuneQuest" part.

p.s. I'm not complaining about what we've seen and I'm not saying that it is "Percentile Diablo". I've not seen enough to jump to either a negative or positive conclusion. Just commenting on the discussion.

[Mugen]

1 hour ago, PhilHibbs said:

Sure, but what I want in a RuneQuest game set in Glorantha is more than just "Diablo with percentages under the hood". The "Gloranthan" part is more important to me than the "RuneQuest" part.

p.s. I'm not complaining about what we've seen and I'm not saying that it is "Percentile Diablo". I've not seen enough to jump to either a negative or positive conclusion. Just commenting on the discussion.

I doubt anyone thinks a faithful adaptation of a tabletalk roleplaying game is a good selling point for a videogame. Even games based on D&D do not do this nowadays.