Brootse Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I'm using the RQ3 version of the spell, except for the Runes and Techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Summon, Combine, Fertility, Stasis would be my first idea. Or perhaps Man rather than Stasis. Dispel, Separate and Death sounds more like the sorcerous variant of Resurrection. If some living component is involved (How the West Was One had a rare type of oysters), a Tap might be involved. 1 Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joerg said: Summon, Combine, Fertility, Stasis would be my first idea. Or perhaps Man rather than Stasis. Dispel, Separate and Death sounds more like the sorcerous variant of Resurrection. If some living component is involved (How the West Was One had a rare type of oysters), a Tap might be involved. I'm using Water from the Fountain in Youth as the material ingredient IMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiningbrow Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Command Fertility (Life) Stasis (unchanging) Man... Or Separate Death (from) Spirit ? Or, Command Combine Fertility Spirit Man Stasis (forever) 5 point minimum for Immortality... at the very least! Resurrection - Summon and Command Fertility (Life) Spirit (of) Man... yep, lots of Runes. Should be for a Reusable, MP only Resurrection spell! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajagappa Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Separate Death from Man (i.e. a mortal), Combine Fertility, Stasis for permanent life. (Doing only the first creates an undead being) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiningbrow Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 15 hours ago, jajagappa said: Separate Death from Man (i.e. a mortal), Combine Fertility, Stasis for permanent life. (Doing only the first creates an undead being) What would happen if you Tap Death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said: What would happen if you Tap Death? The rise of the undead... Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 3:35 PM, Shiningbrow said: What would happen if you Tap Death? It would convert a dead thing into magical energy you can use to power your spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Brootse said: It would convert a dead thing into magical energy you can use to power your spells. ...and someone related to the dead person - or a local animal spirit of the dead creature - might come and have a go at you for interfering with the passage to the land of the dead and the cycle of life and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiningbrow Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, PhilHibbs said: ...and someone related to the dead person - or a local animal spirit of the dead creature - might come and have a go at you for interfering with the passage to the land of the dead and the cycle of life and death. Which sort of brings us full circle - is Tapping evil? (and, FTR, I'm still conflicted... but probably that's because the player inside me wants to say "No!" so it can be used at will 😛 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, PhilHibbs said: ...and someone related to the dead person - or a local animal spirit of the dead creature - might come and have a go at you for interfering with the passage to the land of the dead and the cycle of life and death. Sure, but is it any likelier than some other power attacking you when you Tap something else? Should there be a chance of an Umbroli attacking you when you Tap Air (ie. cast Steal Breath)? And as for the dead creature attacking you, it might do that, but it would also get some amount of damage from the spell. RAW say that Steal Breath converts 3m^3 of air into magic points, wouldn't this mean that an Umbroli loses that much size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brootse Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said: Which sort of brings us full circle - is Tapping evil? (and, FTR, I'm still conflicted... but probably that's because the player inside me wants to say "No!" so it can be used at will 😛 ) According to the Guide, most people would think so, even if you use it against your enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Brootse said: Sure, but is it any likelier than some other power attacking you when you Tap something else? In my opinion, just as likely, maybe a little more. Edited May 13, 2019 by PhilHibbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, Shiningbrow said: Which sort of brings us full circle - is Tapping evil? (and, FTR, I'm still conflicted... but probably that's because the player inside me wants to say "No!" so it can be used at will 😛 ) Most Malkioni consider Tapping of living things to be evil, and many Malkioni schools do not teach Tap spells. But the Technique of Tapping in inherent in sorcery. Transforming matter into energy is just basic to the principles of Runic manipulation. So even if a school forbids Tapping, it is likely that it is secretly practiced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Brootse said: On 5/11/2019 at 2:35 PM, Shiningbrow said: What would happen if you Tap Death? It would convert a dead thing into magical energy you can use to power your spells. That would beTap Dead. Not sure such a spell exists, but then, it is similar to the magical source of power of ghouls, so why not. No, if you tap Death, you tap the power that keeps the unliving from moving around, from following their basest instincts and hunger. One of the most important thing the victors of the I Fought We Won battle did afterwards was to separate the living from the dead, affirming the power of Death. If you start tapping into that, the dead may rise once more. IMO Tap Death would leech away the magic put into the funerary rites of people, nullifying them over time. And even if you are an ancestor worshipper you wouldn't want them to rise uncontrollably from their graveyards (outside of the proper dates to do so, if you're in Esrolia). Quote Telling how it is excessive verbis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywyll Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jeff said: Most Malkioni consider Tapping of living things to be evil, and many Malkioni schools do not teach Tap spells. But the Technique of Tapping in inherent in sorcery. Transforming matter into energy is just basic to the principles of Runic manipulation. So even if a school forbids Tapping, it is likely that it is secretly practiced. Surely the process of tapping techniques isn't evil, being inherent in all magic. So teaching the rune wouldn't be a problem, it would just be specific spells like Tap Size and stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Shiningbrow said: Which sort of brings us full circle - is Tapping evil? (and, FTR, I'm still conflicted... but probably that's because the player inside me wants to say "No!" so it can be used at will 😛 ) According to rules, NO. According to the guide to Glorantha, it seems to be yes (I don't have it, but from answer here, it seems so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The God Learner Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 As I understand it, in Glorantha, only Chaotics and God Learners are evil. And the Gods were willing to excuse the Chaotics. (I do find the connection of Tapping, Entropy, and Time interesting though.) And now I'm off for the next fitting of my fine black cape. Muahahaha, everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHibbs Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, The God Learner said: As I understand it, in Glorantha, only Chaotics and God Learners are evil. And the Gods were willing to excuse the Chaotics. There's plenty of evil around, just as there is in the real world that has neither Chaos nor God Learners. The God Learners didn't consider themselves evil, more people consider the Vadeli to be evil than the God Learners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the barbarian Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, PhilHibbs said: There's plenty of evil around, just as there is in the real world that has neither Chaos nor God Learners. The God Learners didn't consider themselves evil, more people consider the Vadeli to be evil than the God Learners. In my Glorantha Trolls are evil and usually ask, "Youse got a problem with that bub"? They do come from hell after all, not a sunny place filled with unicorns... uhh, wait a minute..? Quote ... remember, with a TARDIS, one is never late for breakfast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 1:03 PM, Shiningbrow said: Which sort of brings us full circle - is Tapping evil? The Tap spells are not evil, but using them is generally considered evil, unless you belong to a special sect that allows it. In the same way that guns are not evil, but someone using them to massacre innocents is doing evil using guns. 1 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, soltakss said: The Tap spells are not evil, but using them is generally considered evil, unless you belong to a special sect that allows it. In the same way that guns are not evil, but someone using them to massacre innocents is doing evil using guns. Is Air innocent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Kloster said: Is Air innocent? Is it guilty? Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, soltakss said: Is it guilty? I'm a bad lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiningbrow Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Kloster said: Is Air innocent? 3 hours ago, soltakss said: Is it guilty? So.... which god brought Death to the universe? Which element is known for starting wars?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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