ORtrail Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Uh, how about you get Chamon over here, with his Bronze Age sourcebook, so I don't have to deal with signing up for Yahoo? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalaba Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There's a file in the file section of the Alternate earth Yahoo Group you might find interesting (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/alternateearthrq/files/), entitled "RuneQuest Bronze Age Rules Source Book" It's by Eduardo Chamon who was a regular poster on that list but I don't think is a member here as yet. Cheers, Nick Thanks for the tip, Nick. That's a really interesting document! Thalaba Quote "Tell me what you found, not what you lost" Mesopotamian proverb __________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Errant Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 there is a difference between the disd\tance a missile weapon can throw it.s payload and the range at which it is effectively lethal An historical example... An 11 century English longbowman drawing a bow of 150-225 lbs draw was expected to be able to fire six aimed shot pre minute at 200 yards or less each being leathal to an armoured man. at 200-400 yards he was able to fire three awwows at a time (High arc middle arc and straight on) all three stiking at the same time this is volly fire aimed at masses of men not individuals. They could actually lob arrows at easily twice that range but thos arrows would hit with the force of gravity alone The english military longbow fired a 40+ inch arrow weighing around three ounces the mongol comp bow (Arguably the best in it's class) fired a 36 inch arrow weighing two ounces... Whith it's shorter draw lentgh and smaller size the comp bow is better suited to fast shots and maneuver.thus a mongol archer was gettong ten to fifteen aimed shots per minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORtrail Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 There's a file in the file section of the Alternate earth Yahoo Group you might find interesting (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/alternateearthrq/files/), entitled "RuneQuest Bronze Age Rules Source Book" It's by Eduardo Chamon who was a regular poster on that list but I don't think is a member here as yet. Cheers, Nick Starting to feel like subconscious stalking, right Nick? I checked with the wife and she already had a Yahoo account for her Xena group. I got approved by the AlternateEarth Yahoo guys and my hands on that Bronze Age file. It would still be cool to have a copy in the Downloads section here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickMiddleton Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Starting to feel like subconscious stalking, right Nick? I checked with the wife and she already had a Yahoo account for her Xena group. I got approved by the AlternateEarth Yahoo guys and my hands on that Bronze Age file. It would still be cool to have a copy in the Downloads section here though. Simon (Soltakks here) and I have both emailed Eduardo through his (last know) Yahoo email address so we'll see if he gets in touch. Cheers, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I checked with the wife and she already had a Yahoo account for her Xena group. I got approved by the AlternateEarth Yahoo guys and my hands on that Bronze Age file. It would still be cool to have a copy in the Downloads section here though. The AlternateEarthYahoo guys are - me. I try and approve people I have heard of or don't sound spammy straight away. I hope you find the group useful. Simon (Soltakks here) and I have both emailed Eduardo through his (last know) Yahoo email address so we'll see if he gets in touch. I haven't checked my home email account since Friday (International Women's Day and my wife complaining that I always go on the computer when I get home) but I'll keep everyone updated if I get a reply. Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What is shot? A metal ball? :ohwell: SGL. A lead ball, about half the size of the fist. Runequestement votre, Kloster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Approximately what diameter were these clay balls? Lead shot, like the ones used by Rhodian slingers, were about half the size of the fist. Stones used for sling were about the size of the fist. I don(t know for the clay 'special ammunitions'. Runequestement votre, Kloster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloster Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Approximately what diameter were these clay balls? Lead shot, like the ones used by Rhodian slingers, were about half the size of the fist. Stones used for sling were about the size of the fist. I don't know for the clay 'special ammunitions'. Runequestement votre, Kloster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORtrail Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Okay, okay, we got it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soltakss Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Simon (Soltakks here) and I have both emailed Eduardo through his (last know) Yahoo email address so we'll see if he gets in touch. I've had a reply from Eduardo and he is happy for the gile to be posted to the BRP Forum. I've uploaded it to the Other Settings area but can change that if necesary. http://basicroleplaying.com/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=191 Quote Simon Phipp - Caldmore Chameleon - Wallowing in my elitism since 1982. Many Systems, One Family. Just a fanboy. www.soltakss.com/index.html Jonstown Compendium author. Find my contributions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Just in case no one'S mentionted this yet. Realistically, you can't hit a man sized target with an arrow beyond 80 yards or so. Virtually all hits beyond that range historically were with volley fire against massed groups. So technically, while the arrow can fly out to as far as 700m with some bows, an archer couldn't hit anything smaller than the "broadside of a barn" at that range. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rust Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Realistically, you can't hit a man sized target with an arrow beyond 80 yards or so. Well, no. The 90 m (98 yards) distance is a standard FITA competition distan- ce, and experienced archers rarely miss the target at that distance, with mo- dern bows as well as replicas of historical ones. Quote "Mind like parachute, function only when open." (Charlie Chan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjetilKverndokken Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Hell, I know a few LARP'ers who is friggin Robin Hood with both longbow and crossbow, one of them even smashed a pumping at 130 meters with a longbow replica. Quote Tea and Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Well, no. The 90 m (98 yards) distance is a standard FITA competition distan- ce, and experienced archers rarely miss the target at that distance, with mo- dern bows as well as replicas of historical ones. rust, 90m is only used for the qualify round, not for the elimination rounds. During the 90m round, the target is 122cm in diameter. Few people I know are over 1.2m wide. But I suppose shooting an obese person would be possible out to further ranges. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rust Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 90m is only used for the qualify round, not for the elimination rounds. During the 90m round, the target is 122cm in diameter. True, but most of the experienced archers I have seen at the local archery club hit that target close enough to the center that a person standing in front of it would have been wounded severely. Quote "Mind like parachute, function only when open." (Charlie Chan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vile Traveller Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Even in field archery the normal distance for a bear target (a bit bigger than a human but not much) is around 80 yards. I don't think anyone in my club was Olympic quality, but people perforated the kill zone often enough to make me nervous about the prospect of taunting lone archers from less than 100 to 150 yards. This was without sights, longbows or composite bows, nothing over 60lbs draw weight. It's more difficult to hit with a heavier bow, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 And modern archers are probably using aluminum or carbon-fiber arrows. Even "crappy" Wodden arrows today are fairly uniform. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonewt Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 And modern archers are probably using aluminum or carbon-fiber arrows. Even "crappy" Wodden arrows today are fairly uniform. This would help explain the abilities of Aldryami elven bows and arrows (grown with gardener care). Just ask for the copper top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atgxtg Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 This would help explain the abilities of Aldryami elven bows and arrows (grown with gardener care). Just ask for the copper top. Not to mention what Speedart would do for an arrow's range and damage potential. That is how setting, genre and style factor into an RPG system. Since most RPGs tend toward heroic fantasy, with larger than life characters and magic, reality may not be relevant. There is a Japanese hero who, in legend, sank a ship with a arrow fired from a bow. Admittly it was a very powerful bow, but realistically speaking it's just not possible. But in a "Mythic Japan" setting it might be. Quote Chaos stalks my world, but she's a big girl and can take of herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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