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On 2/8/2023 at 3:03 AM, Scotty said:

if someone wants to check all the links, just post the edited version below and i'll split it into a new thread.

Is there any reason they still haven't showed back up? I keep wanting to link people to Basic Magic, Basic Creatures, Basic Gamemaster, Classic Fantasy, but they're nowhere to be found as far as I can tell from rudimentary web searches.

On 8/29/2022 at 10:11 AM, Barak Shathur said:

Ok, so I think I can piece it together, despite the extremely convoluted formulations. On p. 189, under Actions, we have,

“Within a particular DEX rank, attacks usually go in order of weapon type. Attackers armed with missile weapons (bows, guns, etc.) are considered to act before those in hand-to-hand (melee) combat. After these go characters armed with long weapons (spears, lances, etc.), then those with medium-length weapons (swords, axes, etc.) and finally those with short weapons (daggers, etc.) or who are unarmed. “

Then under Weapon Length on p. 235, we have,

“A character armed with a long weapon attacks first against an opponent using a medium or a short weapon, despite his or her DEX rank. The long weapon-user attacks at his or her DEX rank if that is higher, or just before his or her opponent in the opponent’s DEX rank (if equal to or of lesser DEX than the opponent).”

So users of Long weapons skip the line if their opponents happen to have higher DEX.

Finally, the text under Close Combat and Closing should really read Long weapons vs “shorter” or “short or medium” weapons, rather than just “short weapons”, since the latter can be confused with the category Short weapons.

The references to SIZ should be ignored.

Am I right?

What I got from this is that if you're on the same DEX rank for Initiative, and you have a long weapon, you technically go first. Then the subsequent shorter weapons go. In my mind, I would be using that Length rating as denoting when a person "closes the gap" and engages an enemy, the Long length weapon would be able to act first, then Medium or Short length weapons, until fully engaged and distance is closed to 0.

I'm still drawing blanks reading through this. Grapple and Brawl are range: touch and length: close. That means that I have to close the distance and touch the opponent. However, a dagger that is also a one handed attack is only range: short with no listed length, which I would assume is close because you have to "get in close" to use it.

Lamenting, I wish that the Length was called out in these stats in the book as the character sheet seems to call for it.