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8 hours ago, metcalph said:

Zator is probably related to Dayzatar and Zaytenera(s), a face of the Red Goddess.  Part of the problem with Plentonius's genealogies is that of the Ten sons of Yelm

1. Two seem to be descended from Dayzatar and Lodril
2. The Pelandans believe they were the children of Entekos before Brightface started shining
3. There's a Dara Happan heresy - that Plentonius seems to have been aware of - that connects them to the Dragon Burbustus - Yelm probably slew the Dark Dragon and from its corpse liberated the planets.

An interesting feature of Buserian's name is that Bus is the Dara Happan word for Cow.  So his name could really be a title meaning the the "Marker of Cow(skins)" referring to their early methods of record keeping.  My theory is that after Dayzatar retreated beyond the Sky (courtesy of Umath), the Buserian were those whose strove to mantain contact with him through astrology and record keeping.  Eventually their description somehow became the name of their God.  If anything, the Buseri would say that they worship Dayzatar as he once was and not now is.  

Would that make Lhankor Mhy Dayzatar or a manifestation/emanation of him?

19 minutes ago, Jens said:

From the Well https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/lhankor-mhy-in-central-genertela/ -

Ah, thank you.

now who is Zator, who Buserian replaced? And who is Buserian?

If Lhankor Mhy is Buserian, and Buserian is among the sons of Yelm, does that mean Lhankor Mhy is a son of Yelm?

I understand Gloranthan gods can have contradictory parentages, but the implication that Lhankor Mhy is a piece of Yelm seems important and unexplored. 
 

Maybe GRoY is just inaccurate in numbering Buserian among the sons.

https://basicroleplaying.org/topic/13551-deep-background-history-of-the-sun-dome-temple/

I found this for reference and I think it sums up/ explains the discussion nicely.

Hi, 

To my understanding, Dawn Age Orlanthi thought Elmal was the Sun, but now in the Third Age, everyone agrees Yelm is the Sun, and Elmal is a narrow view of Yelmalio the Lightfore.

In the Dawn Age, did worshipping Elmal grant fire powers? If not, wouldn’t it have seemed weird that the fiery Sun Disk didn’t grant fire magic? 
Did the worship “go” to Elmal, who is Lightfore, or to the Sun Disk, associated with Yelm?

Thanks in advance for the clarification.