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2 hours ago, M Helsdon said:

Dorasar wasn't sticking to an 'Esrolian plan', but a Sartarite one: the ancestors of the Sartarites moved north only a few centuries ago, and retain much of the material culture of their Heortland ancestors.

On 7/3/2016 at 3:58 PM, Jeff said:

(...) Given that the Heortlings are from Kethaela, I strongly suspect that their buildings look more Esrolian than folk give credit.

Dorasar was Sarotar bound companion, right ? Did Sarotar traveled to Esrolia ? Did Dorastar followed him ? Did he saw esrolian houses ? Did he had enough knowledge in masonery to notice the strong likeness ?

By the way, he founded New Pavis, not New Boldhome. He did it with the help of Ginkizzie, the "son" of Flintnail and "grand son" of Pavis. A Gold Dwarf, a teacher and a keeper of lore. What could a Gold Dwarf have taught to a member of a sartarite family who was already familiar with some dwarven secrets about building. Well, plans of Old Pavis houses and the way to build them, maybe ? The kind of houses well adapted to Prax...

Ok with that.

But Dorasar founded New Pavis with the help of Ginkizzie, and Olkgarth, and Ingilli... Why all those guys with all their own culture and own kind of house would have built sartarites-like houses ? And why Dorasar would have stick to an esrolian plan ? Because he was so fond of esrolians, especialy after the murder of his cousin... that cause him to self exile ??

Sorry, i can't buy that. I just can't buy that Pavis houses are nothing but a slighly different version of Sartar houses.

Well, Sartar was always travelling, even when he was king. For exemple : "Sartar was loved by the common tribes people, for he often went disguised among them and searched for those worthy and just enough to help convey the kingdom towards a good future" (Composite History of Dragon Pass, The Kingdom of Sartar, in King of Sartar)

We know why, now   

About round houses... There is a kind of stone round huts of old that were used by the shepereds :

You don't find them only in France, but also in Spain, Italie too, and i'm quite sure you can find them on other countries. Most of them are built in the exact same way the stone "beehive" huts of Bronze Age Ireland were built. When I imagine a young heortling sheperd and his alynx inside, I can't help to think to young Orlanth and Yinkin in Kero Fin cave ^^ In my Glorantha, there are the typical shelters for Sartar's sheperds home away because they have lead their flocks of sheeps to the "summer" pastures  

7 hours ago, Jeff said:

New Pavis was built by Sartarites. The Sartarites know much about stonemasonry (more than most human cultures but not as much as the Flintnail cult), and it is safe to say that they regularly use stone (at least for the foundational walls) in their buildings. It is likely that widespread stone use comes in the wake of building Boldhome, but in the following century it is pretty standard for Sartarites. Add to that the ongoing influence from Esrolia (always important, but became even more important post-1492), and you have the Sartarite style. 

Knowing much about stonemasonery doesn't mean you use it extensively or on a regular basis for houses... Exemple : In Athena or Olynthia (5 BC), most of the houses had clay bricks, crude bricks or even rammed earth walls, stones being saved for the bases and the foundations.  For the (funny) record, walls could have been so thin that thieves could have found easier to force the walls rather than the doors. Those thieves were named toichorychoi ("wall-piercers").

5 hours ago, Jon Hunter said:

I'm not sure why I always imagined mud brick for Pavis, sure stone for the important stuff, but day to day building mud brick always struck me as the material of choice.

Maybe its the just the artwork you used to be Pavis always had a north african feel for me.

I also never realised the size of new pavis compared to the satarite cities its actually quite big isnt it.

 First picture is a rendition of Ur and the Great Ziggurat ( Early bronze age, 21 BC ; Mesopotamia, actual Irak, south of bagdad). The second one is a rendition of Lachish (7 BC ; Judah, between Gaza and Hebron)

House walls were made of crude bricks, with bases of clay bricks.

1 hour ago, Joerg said:

I am curious how the flat roofs of the pueblos were constructed. Anyone in the know?

Wood covered  by adobe ^^