Raven Shadowz

1 hour ago, MOB said:

Nice summary Groovyclam!

And Geek and Sundry just published an article giving reasons why a game that came out ""when bell-bottoms were cool" is still so popular: http://geekandsundry.com/4-reasons-you-need-to-play-this-38-year-old-rpg-now/ 

Thank you very much, I enjoyed the article very much

15 hours ago, lawrence.whitaker said:

You'll have a lot of fun with it. The 'Classic' epithet is well deserved.

As much as I love AD&D I'm sure I will

30 minutes ago, Mugen said:

I would definitely add OpenQuest to the list of RuneQuest editions, as it is a game that was specifically created to reproduce its creator's experiences with RuneQuest 3, with a simpler ruleset.

Its combat system is slightly more complex than Call of Cthulhu (which is not true of any edition of RuneQuest), and it has very simple versions of Battle/Spirit magic, Divine magic and Sorcery.

Anyway, if someone specifically wants to play a game in Glorantha, RuneQuest 2 and the next RuneQuest are the best options...

Thank you very much

3 hours ago, Mankcam said:

To further complicate matters, there is also OpenQuest and MagicWorld...and that's just the Fantasy genre 

But I would say for Raven's purposes, just go with Mythras, or wait for the new version of RuneQuest to be published next year.

(If impatient then possibly get RQ Classic, but remember it's a nostalgic reprint of a 30 yr old rule set. However the supplements will apparently be fully compatible with the new version of RQ, so the product line is well worth it for the Gloranthan campaign settings)

 Thank you very much for your answer

4 hours ago, groovyclam said:

Just to help Raven with the pedigree of the game and editions:

RuneQuest 1st Edition issued by Chaosium ( now available on Chaosium site ) known in the community as RQ1

It became RuneQuest 2nd Edition ( now available as "RuneQuest Classic" on Chaosium site ) - 2nd Ed was pretty similar to 1st Ed and both were set in Glorantha. It is abbreviated in the community as RQ2.

RuneQuest 3rd Edition rules was sold as a boxed set in the US and two hardbacks in the UK ( issued by Avalon Hill and Games Workshop respectively under license from Chaosium, neither of these are available any more except as used items ). 3rd Ed stripped Glorantha out of the core rules to allow for a generic fantasy/olde-worlde setting but Glorantha supplements were issued under the line if you wanted to still play in Glorantha. The rules evolved again with some players not liking the changes and some liking them.

At this point Chaosium lost the rights to RuneQuest/Glorantha ( don't ask - or read Wikipedia about Chaosium ). The rights were held by a company called Issaries Inc.

A company called Mongoose licensed the rights and released, what is usually called on the internet, Mongoose RuneQuest 1st Edition ( i.e. MRQ1 or MRQI ) but the book is just called "RuneQuest". Again this was a generic product but Glorantha supplements were released too. The ruleset is not thought of very highly.

Mongoose released a second version of the RuneQuest rules called "RuneQuest II" ( abbreviated in the community as MRQ2 or MRQII ). This was not an evolution of their MRQ1 rules but a complete rewrite ( by the same two guys who today produce and sell Mythras ). Still a generic product but again with Glorantha supplements.

Mongoose stopped licensing the RuneQuest name at this point but, not wanting to waste good product, they removed the word "RuneQuest" from their "RuneQuest II" product line books and changed it to "Legend". You can get this line of Legend books from Mongoose still.

The two authors who wrote the Mongoose RuneQuest II rulebook now formed their own company - The Design Mechanism - and licensed the RuneQuest/Glorantha property from Issaries Inc. and issued the rulebook for "RuneQuest 6th Edition". This used their original MRQ2/Legend ruleset and improved on it. 

At this point the rights to the name "RuneQuest" and all the Glorantha intellectual property moved back to Chaosium Inc. from Issaries Inc. ( again, read Wikipedia ). So Chaosium have decided not to licence the product anymore but issue their own ruleset and Glorantha products once more. They are currently working on a new rulebook which will just be called "RuneQuest" once more ( but inside the company it is considered RQ4 - disregarding the Mongoose and Design Mechanism editions ).

To distinguish this new, upcoming version of RuneQuest they renamed the original Chaosium 2nd Edition version "RuneQuest Classic" when they recently re-printed it and gave it a bit of a facelift.

Phew, meanwhile The Design Mechanism, not wanting to waste their work have renamed their RuneQuest version 6 rulebook "Mythras" ( and also tweaked the rules very, very slightly ). So Mythras' pedigree is actually MRQ2->Legend->RQ6->Mythras

The new, as yet unreleased, version of Chaosium's RuneQuest will be: RQ1->RQ2->RQ3->new unreleased RQ4 ( although I believe very little of RQ3 will be included in RQ4 )

RuneQuest Classic's pedigree is: RQ1->RQ2->via facelift, no rule changes->RQ Classic

Hope this helps.

This was awesome of you, thank you for this history lesson on RQ

6 minutes ago, Mugen said:

Fact is there are mote than 2 versions of RuneQuest available and to chose from, not counting OpenQuest, which is a simplified RuneQuest 3.

My own version would be a patchwork of 3rd and Mythras, with bits from Legend, personally.

 Thank you, I have only played AD&D, Pathfinder and Call of Cthulhu, so I was researching about RuneQuest, and on the  Chaosium website, it only shows the PDF of 1st Edition RuneQuest and RuneQuest Classic, so during my research I saw all the different versions of RuneQuest and seeing Mythras having basically the same cover. It was very confusing, when I could not get a google answer, I was told I could get an answer here.  

2 hours ago, Mankcam said:

I could ramble on all day about the many subjective pros and cons of both systems, but it would probably just kick off a flame war. Both systems are versions of BRP, which means they are both great.

Have fun 

Thank you very much 

3 hours ago, lawrence.whitaker said:

You'll have a lot of fun with it. The 'Classic' epithet is well deserved.

I'm sure I shall 

Just now, soltakss said:

Pray tell!

RuneQuest Classic is the system I prefer. 

I would like to thank every one who has answered my question. Now I know which system I prefer. 

Hello,

 Could someone please tell me the difference between RuneeQuest Classic and Mythras Core Rules?  Please and thank you.

So sorry I meant to enter this topic under RuneQuest.