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Rather than wade into rather outdated distinctions, I'd recommend getting the new Dragon Pass book if you haven't already and reviewing the backgrounds for Sartar, Old Tarsh, Tarsh, and the Far Place there. You can always elaborate if needed for your game, but those are really the distinctions now, not something from migrations happening 300 years prior (after all which migrations were your ancestors part of 300 years ago?). Thank you for this! I didn’t realise those were particularly outdated. I hope I don’t bore you guys with my floundering about if I’m honest. There is so much to take in! I’ve been reading the new book, and that made me come across the new Spirit Cults, which gave me a few questions in regards to them. 1) Can someone join a Spirit Cult and a Rune Cult? 2) Why would someone join a Spirit Cult rather than a Rune Cult? 3) Is it plausible to make a Chaos Spirit Cult, or are they all Rune Cults? As I was considering having a Homebrew Chaos… entity (spirit? demigod?) called Asgrela. Beyond Spirit Cults, I was curious on a few other things: 4) Who are the Western Barbarians mentioned in the family history portion of character creation? 5) What do the Orlanthi (generally) think of Annilla? Is she just another Lunar thing to hate, or is there more nuance there than with The Red Goddess? I imagine Dormal / Engizi / Choralinthor Followers have different feelings about her? 6) If Yelm Initiate status can only pass from Pure Horse Person, in a patrilineal fashion, doesn’t that suggest his faith is suffering greatly?

I find this fascinating, and it's definitely something I'll keep in mind as I plan my upcoming game. I've read the part about Tribes in WF#15 now, and I have a question. Old Hendriki, Telmori, Yelmalions/Yelmalians, Dark Orlanthi, Prax Orlanthi Tarshite, Old Tarshite and Kerofini all make sense as distinct cultural groups, but what of Sword/Axe/Light(weaponry) Orlanthi? It feels a meek distinction compared to the rest? Are they refered to like that anywhere else? Also I did list "Tarshite, Old Tarshite and Kerofini" instead of "Tarshite and Earth Tarsh" as in the WF#15, just for clarity, as "Tarshite" in the text in question seems to be refering to what is called "Old Tarshite" in the R:RiG books, and Earth Tarsh is refering explictly to tribes that originated in Old Tarsh, not the Tarshite refugees Old Tarsh is mostly known for - so I've called them Kerofini. This leads into another question. Tarshite is split by Lunar (then by Wideread vs Pharandros), Old (then split by refugee or kerofini), Sartar has the Tribes with many angles, Prax has its tribes. Grazelanders have the Vendref and Pure Horse Person split, as well as if they follow the Feathered Horse Queen "Reaches All" or Luminous Stallion King. But what of Esrolia? I know very little of the place comparatively.

Thank you! I'm just going to pick up #15 right now and give it a read!

What is WF?

The new book is very helpful, especially in fleshing out the Far Place in the R:RiG books! But it doesn't tell me much about who the other 3 Tribes of Alda-Chur are. Where could I learn more about the culture of the Dinacoli, Princeros and Tovtaros Tribes?

Thank you so much for this summary. I'm very excited to learn about more Sea, Solar and Darkness Gods as the books release. For my Odaylan Noble NPC (Called "Sondr" as I finally gave him a name), I'm going to give him some allies that the players can meet. Just two, I think. A Chalana Arroy healer and a Lorion-worshipping boatman/messenger/scout? I'm pretty set on the Lorion-worshipper, but the Chalana Arroy character might get swapped out for Asrelia? I've thought that this Noble, Sondr, will be an interesting NPC contact as the Orlanthi sends him to keep the Lunar Politicians in Alda-Chur in check, as he'd be more acceptable to the Lunars as an Odaylan, but they also want to make sure Sondr doesn't turn the same way as the Sylila (Sylilan? I'm not sure what the adjective form is!) and submit to those nobles. As one of the players is playing a Sartarite Noble that rolled to be present at the crowning of Kallyr Starbrow, would it be reasonable to say they've been asked to make sure that Sondr doesn't convert in such a manner? As if the Sartarites are hedging their bets. Thank you for the write-up. That helps a bit. Still confusing, but I guess it's always confusion! Not sure exactly where I'll put them politically. Maybe tomorrow's book will give me ideas and answers! Hi there! Thank you for joining the thread! And I'll take that into account, for sure! --- I also picked up King of Dragon Pass and Six Ages on Steam to immerse myself some more. After a little play of KoDP, I've noticed some Gods that aren't in the Prosopaedia? Why's that?

And, for today, one last post; two more questions! What's the difference between Engizi and Lorion? If Engizi is the god of just the main river in Dragon Pass, what about all the other rivers? I ask this both in terms of lore (are they all other gods?) and mechanics (do you just use the Engizi cult?)

As for this: thank you, I think I will as soon as I start the game in a month or two! I'm sure my Lunar Tarsh Philosopher will want to start crafting right away!

I must say after reading all this... I... what? I don't get it at all. I think I see why people are in debate about it!

Thanks for the explanation jajagappa! Does the “Why I Ruined Your Glorantha” article still exist? And rolling back to Odayla, I was just reading about him in the Lightbringer book. Why isn’t Hwarin Dalthippa one of the associated cults? If it were, what spell would you think she’d grant?

I didn’t realise the Vantaros were pro-Lunar! How come? As for Elmal / Yelmalio, dare I ask why it is a point of contention in the real world?

Who is Sylila?

One other question. I read that the Red Goddess tamed the Sky Bear? How does that play out considering Odayla?

I'm leaning towards Odayla, I think. An Odaylan Nobleman in Alda-Chur trying to keep the city somewhat under the boot of Sartar whilst the military of Sartar recovers from the post-Dragonrise battles. He'll be opposed by Yelmalio (Elmal? Not sure on the difference) cultists of the Vantaros Tribe, and Lunar Nobles who are well-aware they can't start throwing down without having their relative idependance as a "neutral" trading hub thrown into question. This nobleman is aided by the party, and local Lightbringer-leaning folks, including a Lorion-Worshipping messenger who will act as a point for travel via rivers when the party progress beyond the local area. Those of Earth Pantheons are somewhat split, with Red Earth leaning to the nobility (if they should be here?), and the rest split between the Yelmalians and Orlanthi. That gives a good skeleton of a political layout to build stories on! I might add some Polaris followers? Though, similar to by Yelmalio/Elmal questions, that may be answered when Sky Gods comes out.

I'm fascinated by the idea of an Odalya / Yinkin Nobleman. How would you think that would work, as I would feel very "typecast" into hunter/survivalist/scout types?