rleduc

Yeah! My Classic Fantasy adventure was accepted. Good luck to everyone else!

I think the system seems a little complex at first brush because of the number of different types of points -- but once you get it, it is fast and easy to play and there is a fair amount of subtlety in the characters that can be created.

Hello Redstone,

Each PSI discipline has its own strength stat that is used very similarly to POW – you spend points to fuel your psionic effects, and you can keep doing things until you run out of the appropriate points.

You also get POW/2 points to buy your “super powers” as normal (from the big yellow book) and these POW/2 points are what are spent in order to buy both psionic effects (“spells” if you would) and the strength points to fuel them.

Now imagine you have a guy with POW=16 with the “wizard” profession. This character has POW/2 or 16/2=8 points to buy “super powers” – and since he is a wizard we are going to drop them all into nanopsionics. Let’s make this guy an ESPer. First we need some effects. Each effect is a separate skill, but before we can start to buy the skill, we need to have the power – in the game context the power comes from funky tattoos that are embedded with nanites under the characters skin – before the character can learn the skill of how to use these nanites to cause physical effects, he first must have the tattoos – and that costs “super power” points. The Wizard profession lets us count up to four of these powers as professional skills, but there are only three ESP powers – we will take them all. It costs one “super power” point to buy clairvoyance, another for clairaudience and another for sense mind.

Points so far: POW=16 -> 8 “super power” points.

-1 for clairvoyance,

-1 for clairaudience,

-1 for sense mind;

So we now have 8-1-1-1=5 points remaining.

But, we do not have any ESP strength to power the above effects. For each “super power” point we spend on ESP Strength we gain +5 ESP Strength, so for four of our “super power” points we will have an ESP Strength of 4x5=20 (the maximum allowed under normal circumstances).

Let’s do that.

So now our running total is:

POW=16 -> 8 “super power” points.

-1 for clairvoyance,

-1 for clairaudience,

-1 for sense mind,

-4 for ESP Strength = 20.

At this point we have 1 “super power” point left that we could spend on something else, or we could take up to 3 points in Failings and buy another PSI category. Let’s do that.

Three points of Failings are taken giving us +3 “super power” points. Plus we are going to take Kinetics power of Telekinesis. Our new running total is:

8 “super power” points

+3 for Failings

-3 for clairvoyance, clairaudience, and sense mind,

-4 for ESP Strength

-1 for TK;

Leaving three points.

But we do not have any Kinetics Strength to power our TK, so the three remaining points are put into Kinetics Strength at +5 Strength per point or 15 Kinetics Str.

So after spending all of our “super power” points the wizard has:

ESP Strength = 20,

Powers of: clairvoyance, clairaudience, and sense mind

Kinetics Strength=15

Power of: TK

Now clairvoyance, clairaudience, sense mind, and TK are each separate skills that start with a basic of 10%, but all four of them can be counted as professional skills for the wizard, so points from the professional skill point pool can be used to increase them. Let’s say we put +40% in clairvoyance skill bringing it to 50%, and +65 in TK making it 75%. The wizard would have a 50% chance on a given turn of entering a trance and projecting his vision anywhere up to 20 meters away. Each time he does this, it would temporarily cost one of the 20 ESP Strength points per minute the power is maintained – but his maximum range will stay constant at 20 meters no matter how long he keeps the power up. He might use this power to look through a wall, and see into the next room. Because of the cross power with Kinetics, he could also move things in the next room using TK. He has a 75% chance of activating a TK power – once activated the power acts as if the character were standing there with a physical strength of 15/2 or 8, and a physical dexterity of 15/4 or 4. So the effect is very clumsy, and not too strong, but it can none-the-less be useful.

I hope this helps,

Rich

I'm a big fan of gusto myself -- welcome back.

If you or anyone else is interested in trying something like this, or even a normal adventure, I will be more than willing to help by providing access to what has been done for CF2 in the way of monsters, treasure, etc. I did the same for Rich "Rubble and Ruin" LeDuc for a Classic Fantasy adventure he submitted for Chaosium's Adventure Contest of this year and for some on my Yahoo Group as well.

I only ask that if it isn't going to be an official submission, it at least be made freely avaliable to other fans of Classic Fantasy and BRP in general.

Rod

I wonder what ever happened to that adventure...(Anyone ever hear about the adventure contest?)

I posted this some time ago -- I use it to outline settings from a character creation standpoint. It might help,

http://basicroleplaying.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=123

Rich

There are two issues; layering and Ballistic protection. In the example a character is layering two different armors -- they have some cyberware armor and over it they are wearing synthaweave. As per the page cited in BRP you can only add the protection together if one of the armors are classified as "layering" and since, in this case, one is, then the melee protection is 2 from the cyberware and 5 from the synthaweave to a total of 7. But, if someone shot this character those 7 armor points will not help them; bullets ignore normal armor. Instead the characters ballistic protection is 6 from the cyberware (ballistic AV is always the second number) plus 0 from the synthaweave to a total of 6.

Now, if the character is shot with a Risk 6 or less weapon it will be fully absorbed by the armor. Ignore the attack. If the attack is 7+ Risk then all the armor does is reduce the Risk by 1: 7-1=6, 12-1=11 and so on. In effect the armor takes about one point of damage off the attack -- in most cases the Risk value is the top of a uniform distribution between 1 and the value (except that is it tweaked for easy dice rolling).

Does this help?

Rich

This came up on another thread, but I put it here also -- for future reference.

Hi guys, can I post here a question about a houserules find at pag. 115 and 45 of Rubble & Ruins manual? I've undestand the rule of "AV/Risk" about the armors: how does it function?

Thanks

Hello Scarecrow,

Below is a reposting from the Rubble and Ruin thread under BRP Publications. I am going to double post your question to that thread, and I have added a few "design notes" to see if that helps clarify what I was trying to do in R&R.

R&R uses three kinds of armor; layering, non-layering and ballistic. Layering and non-layering refer to BRP p.261 and the special rule of layering armor. Basically (as I read it) you can have one layer of soft (or layering) armor and one of non-layering. As an aside, I have always allowed two layering armors if anyone wanted to that.

Ballistic armor comes from R&R p.47. Basically melee armor provides negligible protection against modern firearms – true fact, try it someday – instead to stop bullets you need ballistic armor. Ballistic armor has the property that it either effectively stops a bullet, or it provides almost no protection. That is Type I ballistic armor will stop a .22 round but provides almost no reduction in penetration to a rifle bullet (this is measured using a ballistic gel and measuring how deep a given round will penetrate – then you put the armor over the gel and fire again). To simulate this in R&R ballistic armor will either remove all of the risk of a bullet or failing that, it will only reduce the risk by one point.

[edited on report] So for example “layering” cybernetic armor (cyber armor 2/6) under, say, synthaweave (5/0 AV) will protect for 7 (2+5) points of melee damage and 6 (6+0) ballistic.

So Rich (I hear you cry) why in the world did you do this?

R&R presents a mid- to high-crunch interpretation of modern firearms. It is trying to capture the feel of movies where the hero fears for his/her life whenever someone points a gun at them. Since this is a reasonable response in the real world, what I did was to try and develop a system that modeled many details of firearm combat, while at the same time keeping it simple enough that it plays quickly*. What you get if you use all the R&R mechanics is the nicely balanced damage by hit location system of “old school” Runequest for melee combat and a separate system with only modest bookkeeping overhead for firearms.

I do want to add that I am not claiming this is the best way to run all games in the world and everyone should make the distinction between melee and firearms. Instead, I view game mechanics as taking the same role as cinematography -- mechanics draw the audience (in this case the players) attention to certain details of the world, while ignoring others. In a R&R story, the lethality of firearms plays a critical role in defining the “feel” of the world -- in other stories it will not be so important and other rules can be used.

Does this help any? If not, please feel free to ask additional questions, and I will try my best.

Thanks for your interest,

Rich

* At this point I should confess that my “typical” gaming group has players evenly split between PhD scientists and undergraduate engineering students (with the occasional bachelor’s level computer scientist through in for variety) -- YMMV with how quickly the system plays, but it works great in my hands.

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Thanks for you answer, Rleduc

But, I don't understand how you calculat, for example, the values 5/0 AV of synthaweave trasforming them in 2+5 points of melee damage. And, also, what is the A/V Risk of the armor? How shall I read this value when I study an armor on R&R?

There are two issues; layering and Ballistic protection. In the example a character is layering two different armors -- they have some cyberware armor and over it they are wearing synthaweave. As per the page cited in BRP you can only add the protection together if one of the armors are classified as "layering" and since, in this case, one is, then the melee protection is 2 from the cyberware and 5 from the synthaweave to a total of 7. But, if someone shot this character those 7 armor points will not help them; bullets ignore normal armor. Instead the characters ballistic protection is 6 from the cyberware (ballistic AV is always the second number) plus 0 from the synthaweave to a total of 6.

Now, if the character is shot with a Risk 6 or less weapon it will be fully absorbed by the armor. Ignore the attack. If the attack is 7+ Risk then all the armor does is reduce the Risk by 1: 7-1=6, 12-1=11 and so on. In effect the armor takes about one point of damage off the attack -- in most cases the Risk value is the top of a uniform distribution between 1 and the value (except that is it tweaked for easy dice rolling).

Does this help?

Rich

Hi guys, can I post here a question about a houserules find at pag. 115 and 45 of Rubble & Ruins manual? I've undestand the rule of "AV/Risk" about the armors: how does it function?

Thanks

Hello Scarecrow,

Below is a reposting from the Rubble and Ruin thread under BRP Publications. I am going to double post your question to that thread, and I have added a few "design notes" to see if that helps clarify what I was trying to do in R&R.

R&R uses three kinds of armor; layering, non-layering and ballistic. Layering and non-layering refer to BRP p.261 and the special rule of layering armor. Basically (as I read it) you can have one layer of soft (or layering) armor and one of non-layering. As an aside, I have always allowed two layering armors if anyone wanted to that.

Ballistic armor comes from R&R p.47. Basically melee armor provides negligible protection against modern firearms – true fact, try it someday – instead to stop bullets you need ballistic armor. Ballistic armor has the property that it either effectively stops a bullet, or it provides almost no protection. That is Type I ballistic armor will stop a .22 round but provides almost no reduction in penetration to a rifle bullet (this is measured using a ballistic gel and measuring how deep a given round will penetrate – then you put the armor over the gel and fire again). To simulate this in R&R ballistic armor will either remove all of the risk of a bullet or failing that, it will only reduce the risk by one point.

[edited on repost] So for example “layering” cybernetic armor (cyber armor 2/6) under, say, synthaweave (5/0 AV) will protect for 7 (2+5) points of melee damage and 6 (6+0) ballistic.

So Rich (I hear you cry) why in the world did you do this?

R&R presents a mid- to high-crunch interpretation of modern firearms. It is trying to capture the feel of movies where the hero fears for his/her life whenever someone points a gun at them. Since this is a reasonable response in the real world, what I did was to try and develop a system that modeled many details of firearm combat, while at the same time keeping it simple enough that it plays quickly*. What you get if you use all the R&R mechanics is the nicely balanced damage by hit location system of “old school” Runequest for melee combat and a separate system with only modest bookkeeping overhead for firearms.

I do want to add that I am not claiming this is the best way to run all games in the world and everyone should make the distinction between melee and firearms. Instead, I view game mechanics as taking the same role as cinematography -- mechanics draw the audience (in this case the players) attention to certain details of the world, while ignoring others. In a R&R story, the lethality of firearms plays a critical role in defining the “feel” of the world -- in other stories it will not be so important and other rules can be used.

Does this help any? If not, please feel free to ask additional questions, and I will try my best.

Thanks for your interest,

Rich

* At this point I should confess that my “typical” gaming group has players evenly split between PhD scientists and undergraduate engineering students (with the occasional bachelor’s level computer scientist through in for variety) -- YMMV with how quickly the system plays, but it works great in my hands.

Hello -- I just took a position at the Great Lakes Biofuel Research Center at UW-Madison. My wife and I are really excited about the move. Madison looks to be a great place to live (and raise our 4 year old)! I'll be up there in late January, maybe we can all meet up someplace.

Rich

Any BRPers in Madison WI? It looks like I will be moving there soon, and was wondering if anyone on this forum is up there.

Rich

Thanks everyone for the comments regarding R&R but I feel that I am thread-jacking the thread. What I was getting at was that for me writing a monograph was a personal thing that I did because I wanted to write what I felt was a cool thing – independent of any response from the gaming community as a whole (but certainly with the folks on this forum in mind), and even though I did step onto a PA third rail – it was still worth it.

Not only would I do it again – but I am starting to outline my next idea. (But it is nice to hear people say they enjoyed the work )

Since the days when “old school” was simply “the school” I had been running post apocalyptic games that were a restaging of what has become “the cannon fantasy” setting. To me it was an obvious and fun thing to do, but none of the PA games that I could get ever had that as their focus – sure I could beat mechanics into allowing the game I wanted, but never out of the box.

So then I got the crazy idea to write a monograph which would, I imagined, be shared amongst the friendly people here at BRPCentral – and a few friends and the occasional outsider who stumbled upon it.

Well before I know it, R&R is being compared on RPGNet with all the current high profile PA games and getting trashed – I felt that in general the wider audience was buying it hoping for “Aftermath – the BRP version” and then being disappointed. In retrospect I should have spelled out exactly what I was trying to do -- the title was too subtle (come on people Rubble and Ruin – dang doesn’t that sound a lot like certain other old school games).

Still, I am glad I wrote it – I am sorry that there is a swath of people who bought it expecting something else, and should I find time to write another monograph I will (though I will try to be more explicit with my back text).

I just wanted to say that "a world gone mad with killing" is about as awesome as two comets colliding in low orbit.

Charlie grabbed that phrase from the first paragraph and made it the tag line for the book.

But at least it does have an index...

Happy to answer. It was my first try at putting together a complete book and I did not get the organization perfect.

Yes. It gives a little protection against bullets.

Couple of things. First off, great book! love the PA setting and the way you have made it both generic and detailed, as mentioned above. And the included adventure The Vent Fan was excellent!

Thanks! There is so much variation in post-apocalyptic literature and (IMHO) so little in PA gaming – I was trying to do something new.

Couple of technical questions.

1. What is chud armor made of?

I have always imagined the chud taking steel belted tires and painstakingly crafting the rubber-steel mesh into some form of flexible melee armor. The main idea is that these guys are spending hundreds of hours lurking in their holes doing nothing but trying to perfect the craft of converting common material from the ruin into body armor. Alternatively, you could have them manufacturing the best slashing weapons, or some other useful item that takes some skill and a lot of time.

2. In the cybernetics it talks about the limbs having 2 points of layering armor, and 6 points of ballistic. I could not find where this is explained. Is this in the BRP book? Does that mean its 6 points versus bullets, and 2 points for all other damage? Its the 'layering' term the same as the AV?

R&R uses three kinds of armor; layering, non-layering and ballistic. Layering and non-layering refer to BRP p.261 and the special rule of layering armor. Basically (as I read it) you can have one layer of soft (or layering) armor and one of non-layering. As an aside, I have always allowed two layering armors if anyone wanted to that.

Ballistic armor comes from R&R p.47. Basically melee armor provides negligible protection against modern firearms – true fact, try it someday – instead to stop bullets you need ballistic armor. Ballistic armor has the property that it either effectively stops a bullet, or it provides almost no protection. That is Type I ballistic armor will stop a .22 round but provides almost no reduction in penetration to a rifle bullet (this is measured using a ballistic gel and measuring how deep a given round will penetrate – then you put the armor over the gel and fire again). To simulate this in R&R ballistic armor will either remove all of the risk of a bullet or failing that, it will only reduce the risk by one point.

So you are exactly correct. The “layering” property of cybernetic armor implies that cyber armor of 2/6 under, say, synthaweave (5/0 AV) will protect for 7 (2+5) points of melee damage and 6 (6+0) ballistic.

And to make sure I am on the right page, Kevlar II armor has AV/Risk of 2/11. That means that you reduce bullet 'risk' by 11, but against melee damage it provides 2 points?

Correct!

I only allow two skills to be used:

• Make Sandwiches with soft cheese and cucumber slices.
  
• Do Anything (apart from making sandwiches with soft cheese and cucumber slices).
  

I use to use that system myself until one game where half the party was busy fighting the Saucer King of Ming-12 while the rest of the group was organizing petit fours for a meeting with the Queen – when one player wanted to use his “Make Sandwiches with soft cheese and cucumber slices” skill, but another pointed out that these were not actually petit fours, and then the Saucer King pointed the brie. Anyway, harsh words were spoken and it was decided that slightly more detail was needed for our group.

It serves me well.

When I start a BRP campaign, one of the first things I decide is if I will have an open or closed skill list. In games with a closed list I write out all the skills that I will ever call for – if it is not on the list, the players can be assured that their characters will never be asked to roll it. In these types of games I usually include some “umbrella” skills with names like “science” – I will never ask for a “physics” roll or a “bioinformatics” roll – the players are guaranteed that I will only ask for “science” rolls. In games with open skill systems I allow the players to define the skills they need – for example, someone might take Science: Bioinformatics 50%, while someone else might take Science: Computer Science 50%.

Closed skill lists are fast and easy for players – but they are also restrictive. I ran a zombie apocalypse game once with a closed list and it went very well. Having a closed list forced the players into simpler roles – we ended up with “scientists” and “tough guys” and “sneaky people” etc. This worked great for an open game played primarily at a university gaming club were players came in and out all the time – and there was a fairly high mortality rate.

On the other hand, when I run more character driven games I do better with open skill systems that allow the players to describe their character with their choice in skills. To continue beating the science examples to death, if I want to play a scientist in an open skills game I would first pick his/her field – NMR protein structure determination, and then figure what skills would I need; maybe Science: Physics, Science: Bioinformatics and Science: Chemistry. By the time I do this I have a lot of my skill points stuck in obscure skills that might never come up in play, but I have a very accurate description of the PC’s abilities.

In summary – in my hands the skill list is an important tool for setting the tone of the game. Whether you have large open lists or small closed lists depends on the “cinematic” feel you are trying for in a particular campaign.

Pardon the double posting but...

It is done!

The PDF is on-line!

It is done!

The PDF is on-line!

From the Infonomocon:

That is not dead for which new versions come,

And with strange eons unknown bugs go numb.

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Charlie said my latest test rebuild of R&R with Scrybus did not show the problem – I will resubmit the entire document soon.

The point buy system is Rubble and Ruin is the system from The Book in Yellow coupled with a short list of what characters can buy. There are two things that keep it “BRPish” in my mind.

First, there are not too many points in play. A maxed out “powers” character (a cyborgs or nanopsionicist) will only have 18/2+3 or 12 points to spend – while the character with the least “powers” will have 3/2=2 points.

Second, I included mundane “powers” so that a non-powers character can spend their POW/2 points on character development. If a PC has POW=10 or 5 points to spend, they can get some extra background skills, maybe raise a skill to 90% (instead of the NORMAL cap of 75%) – things like that; a few extra decisions in character generation, but nothing too complex.

Wow – that was really nice to hear!

The monograph as written was the result of a great deal of play – I mean decades of fiddling with the core ideas of the PA setting; running games with these mechanics or those; fiddling and constantly trying to improve my “signature” PA game.

I wholeheartedly agree certain components put too much detail on this or that sub-area of the game. What I did when I wrote the monograph was I tried to create something that had both bits that were usable to the largest group of gamers I could manage and still playable as written. So, for example, the cybernetics and armor rules I had been using forever required damage by hit location, but for hit locations to keep the same “guns can both kill instantly or just scratch the PC a little” I needed the Risk system. Would I be offended if you dropped the parts you didn’t need and used core rules and a little common sense – not at all. Would I join you for a game where you were using your own combination of mechanics? In a heartbeat! My hope is that the monograph provides easy to use tools to allow you to put together your own PA game.

There are a couple of points that I want to respond to “for the record”.

The thing I did find a bit strange was to find 6 (!) different skills for "healing". There is First Aid, Trauma Medicine, Surgery, Physician, Health Care and EMT. I mean, is this really necessary? And couldn't it be just specialisations of First Aid and Medicine?

Two things here – first in my day job I am a senior scientist at “a major Midwestern medical school” so I felt a certain obligation to include a little more detail here – to have a reasonably realistic set of medical mechanics available within BRP for anyone who wants/needs them. As such Health Care is really just a detail added for anyone who cares, likewise for Surgery – I don’t think it will come up that often (except when some PC decides he/she wants to open a clinic – you laugh, just wait, it will happen).

Because of the scarcity of healing options, First Aid, EMT and Physician/Trauma Medicine are used to create a “scale” of healers. Everyone has a 30% chance of First Aid to fix those minor wounds. Some players will focus a little and take a -30% to gain the extra abilities of the EMT (EMT is effectively First Aid with a 0% basic and additional abilities like being able to safely move injured people). You could handle this differently of course. But then we get to the big guns, the physician/trauma doctor is a great person for a party that gets hurt a lot to have around – but given the restrictions on the skills it almost always requires a dedicated character. It allows the classic “fantasy” healer character – a dedicated character who can quickly get the group back in the game, but who has to be supported by a large and effective group.

But in the end it is only a matter of definition. I bought the game, so it's all mine and I am free to change things

I would go a step further and encourage you to share your successes on this forum!

And the hot spot of this monograph certainly is the rules for Cars. Not only can you build your own cars, no, there are new rules for chases and combat in the book as well! Loved that! Mad Max comes much closer now, and I can get rid of the 'Redline' rules I used so far. Nice work, thanks for that!

The car construction is based heavily on the original Car Wars booklet transformed to 10 second combat rounds. It took some work for me to get use to car-fights in the BRP timeframe. I think it turned out okay.

Including a ruined city as main background for the setting was an awesome step. it really made the setting generic and easily transferable to an other region. Most PA settings are set in the USA, nice, but if you live in an other country you never get attached to it. So in my case I put it into the Brisbane area in Australia, and love it from the beginning. It's fun to ruin the area you live in, place the groups mentioned in the book on the map and draw borders on it. You get highest marks for this idea!

I like the idea of a generic setting that is customized to the game at hand. I arbitrarily restricted it to the US just to allow me to create a few broad “group names” like Free America. Every time a start a new game I carefully pick the location based on the type of action I want – my Rhode Island campaign had lots of boats and some underwater bits, while Chicago was endless expanses of flat rubble.

Having the Boss' tavern and their occupants places a good starting point into the campaign where the PC's can find shelter and a place to sell things.

It is a staple of fantasy games, but I like it in a PA setting – for certain campaign styles it is a fast and easy way to get into the game, and allows a players to have an anchor in the world were they can buy/sell and rest.

The Bestiary is ok, it gives some hints and ideas. Together with the BRP rules book it is easy to get a campaign ongoing for a long time.

I forgot pigs! See above.

W13 ... loved the idea and will definitely use them

I will refrain from telling old gaming stories – but I have used these beasties in a lot of campaigns. Okay, just one. A buddy of mine decided he was going to try gaming for the first time, and he comes to my game. Shinny new character in hand we start the evenings adventure – deep in a partially collapsed bunker a W13 swoops in on the party and grabs the new guy. One of the other players freaks out and empties a magazine from a submachine gun into the beasty – misses the monster and hits the PC killing him instantly. Okay, maybe you had to be there 

Hm, this was not intended to be a review and it really is not, but I just wanted to let people know how flexible the monograph is and that fragments of it can be used for many different modern games. It is an extremely versatile enhancement with many new aspects and ideas - Worth buying it!

Thanks! It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if you posted a review on some of the other gaming forums...

Last night I caught the last few minutes of a Discovery Channel special called Pig Bomb about the problem of feral pigs in the United States and to me it seemed like there is some serious post-apocalyptic game potential in feral pigs. ( See this clip in particular: http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/pig-bomb-super-pigs.html ) As I am waiting for the PDF issue to be resolved, I don't know if this idea works with the post-apocalyptic world of Rubble & Ruin. Nevertheless, thinking about a game of A Boy and His Dog mashed with Pig Bomb did get me through my daily sit in traffic.

Pigs – how could I have missed pigs? Rubble and Ruin started life in the 1980’s as an Aftermath game, and a staple Aftermath “monster” was the razorback. I was going to respond to your post with something like “oh yeah, just use the Boar or Razorback from The Book in Yellow page XYZ” – but when I went to check the page number what do I discover? No pigs in BRP! What to do? No problem, just grab the stats from RQ3 – but I don’t find them there. What about Monster Coliseum (or whatever it is called)? Didn’t find them there – nor even in CofC... So I’m setting watching late night TV and brooding about how I failed to include the noble post-apocalyptic pig in R&R and thinking about how I will have to come up with stats on my own – when suddenly much to my wife’s surprise (that would be my non-gamer wife) – I shout out “pig riders”. I give you now my version of the Razorback – as adapted from the RQ1 Tusker.

Razorback

The wild boar is a cunning animal with a reputation of turning on those hunting it. They exhibit indeterminate growth (like a gold fish they can just keep on growing) and can develop to a monstrous size.

STR: 3D6+12

CON: 1D6+12

SIZ: 4D6+12

POW: 3D6

DEX: 1D6

Gore * 50% 2D6+2D6

Trample * 75% 4D6 to a downed foe

* The boar cannot gore and trample the same opponent in the same round.

Armor: 4 Point skin