Animal Nomad

Is the Blue Moon also Mistress of the Light of Knowledge that Lhankor Mhy married after finding her in the Underworld after Tien beheaded her in the Darkness? The Uz say all knowledge is available from the Blue Moon. Is there a connection between Blue Moon and Daliath?

Was the Blue Moon visible during Day and Night?

Hailing from the same town, I've known Greg and Suzanne for many years. Still shaken from this news am I. WEIZUZUntitled.tiff

Is it safe to equate to each other Darhudan/Darhudana, Flesh Man, Kalwoan, and VogMaraden, they being in one way or another as First Human. I may be way off here, or spot on.

It is true Kyger Litor is referred to constantly as a goddess, but Troll Gods page 78 indicates all troll deities are seen as spirits and they are worshiped through shamans, though this may be misapplied worship for some. If Kyger Litor is indeed a spirit, she may be in fact a Dehori. The Dehore section in Troll Gods also mentions that of all his children, the Dehori are especially intelligent and powerful. Perhaps Dehore also has many other, lesser children, and they may be "regular" Darkness Spirits/Shades. I see some evidence that Sinjota the Guardian is a Dehori, as are Yomat and Yostal, both children of Eurmal and Sinjota.

I see in GtG that Kyger Litor possesses the Spirit, Man, and Darkness Runes, and I also see notes that suggest all Darkness Spirits are Dehori. Does this make Kyger Litor a Dehori, or does the presence of the Man Rune squash this? I still suspect that Ikadz/Ikaj is indeed a Chaotic Dehori, though I could just as easily be wrong.

I see this now, upon further review.

I am not sure if Ikadz is Chaotic or not. Any thoughts? Also, I know little of Hegeda except there is a chance she(?) is important somehow to the Dehori species. Certainly possible that Hegeda Dehora is simply a forgotten title that means Mother Dehori, and is indeed Subere, Xentha, Nakala, Space Mother, or some other lucky lady. Perhaps there are several castes of Dehori, certain of them named, powerful, and self-aware, and others much less powerful, mindless, and roaming around. Do you think it is possible for two (greater) Dehori to couple and generate more (lesser) Dehori? Do any other elementals replicate by themselves? As always my knowledge is incomplete but getting more accurate after each reply and the grand index continues to gain clarity. Thanks. And I am ready to read a story about the creation of the Dehori. I dig them guys.

I have seen some very old notes that suggest there are 22 named and/or special Dehori, but this info seems to have been either been rejected or revised into the current form. It is fun to learn more about the unknowable corners of Glorantha. May I ask what the publication schedule for this new troll book is?

I see. Is there a more in-depth article about Dehore and the Dehori that is canon? Much of what I speak is not canon it appears. My Glorantha certainly varies from the official version, but I hope not too much.

Do we as a community have the names and/or titles of all the 22 (?) known Dehori? I think Ikadz and Lord Lurker in Shadows are known Dehori, but are there others? Is Himile, for example, a Dehori? And is Lord Lurker a title or a name? And are all the Dehori as mighty as Ikadz and perhaps Himile? Is the mother of all the Dehori known? Perhaps it is Hegeda Dehora? Or are Mother of Space and Father of Demons the known parents? Complex questions no doubt from a simple Animal Nomad!

This is my current understanding of all the known, and perhaps unknown, entities we mere mortals call “Ocean/Sea Gods”. Perhaps we can together fill in the gaps? Subject to change as knowledge expands. This message is not about the Water Tribe per se, but specifically about only deities of Seas and Oceans. References to parents or children that are not Seas or Oceans are not included in this report, with a few exceptions. I am happy to correct my understanding. In proper Water Tribe fashion, though, the parentage and offspring list is somewhat mutable. Any help is appreciated to more fully understand. Format Key is - Name/Sphere of Influence if any noted - Parentage and Children The Four Great Oceans are…… Hudaro Homeward/Benara Eastern -do we have a proper name? Togaro The Hudaro family Hudaro/Ice - parent of Neleom, Banthe, Kerenth, Kenirya Neleom/Cold - child of Hudaro Banthe/unknown - child of Hudaro and Manthi and Natea - parent of Denestlazam Kerenth/Sea Plants - child of Hudaro and Murthdrya - parent of Swermela, Jorkar, Dashomo Kenirya/Sea Storm?/Squall? - child of Hudaro and Umath? Dashomo/unknown - child of Kerenth - parent of Marthino Jorkar/unknown - child of Kerenth Swermela/unknown -child of Kerenth Denestlazam/unknown - child of Banthe The Benara Family Homeward/Benara/Psychopomp - child of All Waters - no offspring noted - aka Magasta/Magasta’s Pool The Eastern Ocean Family Eastern/Warmth? - creation unknown - parent of Menterina, Kahar, Venperha, Alsporanjabbi, Kostarankarjahobbi, FreshWater Sea, Valararriano, Alsporanjabbi/unknown - child of Eastern Ocean Valararriano/unknown - child of Eastern Ocean FreshWater Sea/unknown - child of Eastern Ocean - is proper name known? Venperha/unknown - child of Eastern Ocean Kahar/Fog - child of Eastern Ocean, Sshorg, Iphara Menterina/unknown - child of Eastern Ocean The Togaro Family Togaro/Terror - parent of Sshorg, Serelazam Serelazam/unknown - child of Togaro - parent of Maslo, Dinosso, Marthino Sshorg/unknown - child of Togaro - parent of Bezarngay, Sedlezam Maslo/unknown - child of Serelazam - no children noted Dinosso/unknown - child of Serelazam - parent of Marthino Marthino/unknown - child of Dashomo, Dinosso, Serelazam Bezarngay/unknown - child of Sshorgh, Seden - no children noted Sedleza/unknown - child of Sshorgh - parent of Rozgal, Solkath Seden/unknown - child of Sshorgh - parent of Bezarngay Rozgal/unknown - child of Sedlezam - no children noted Solkath/unknown - child of Sedlezam - no children noted I see “Seluro” is perhaps a lost sea, but can find no other info - also need some help with Loral.

Well, it is true the Basmoli are in poor shape in the Age of Time. Back in the day though, in my own wacky Glorantha, I imagine a lion-riding tribe, that one may find to this very day while visiting the Other Side. And perhaps the grumpy One-Humps were indeed a Trickster prank involving Genert, while the lusty Two-Humps were a combined Uleria/Boggle plot as hinted at in Anaxial's Roster.

My source for this is a brief Stafford unpublished manuscript with little or no detail, it being the same source for the other Tilntae/Altinae. Please send any info you have for the newly (for me) discovered Ifttala and Pendal please.

Joerg, I go non-digital and record all info on blank index cards the same size as Magic/playing cards. So far the index is about 20 inches tall. Right now I am only recording names of known entities, sphere of influence, parents if any , and offspring if any. I also include an AKA note, to keep the index relatively easy to use. I am once again actively updating after a number of years offline so to speak. When this phase is complete I will add other info but that is in the future, this phase being simply identifying as many deities as possible, be they canon or not. I am happy to receive info filling in blank areas in my index.

Thanks Joerg for your help. I have removed the Tilntae lable from Rathora in my index. Is The Lady of the Veil a title for Eleria?

Thanks Joerg for the info. I continue to add and update info in my fairly comprehensive collection. I am using some old, unpublished sources, as well as printed material supplemented by online fan material to gather as much intelligence as I can. With help someday my index will be complete perhaps. To be clear are you claiming that all Triolini are living physical entities that dwell in the waters, like a merman or fish, as opposed to animated waters like currents and seas? I am not disagreeing with you, but simply seek an understanding.

This is my current understanding of all the known, and perhaps unknown, entities we mere mortals call “Altinae” and/or “Tilntae”. Perhaps we can together fill in the gaps? Subject to change as knowledge expands, and presented in no particular order. Format Key is - Name/Sphere of Influence - Children/Offspring Altinae List Siglat/unknown - none noted Smalia/unknown - parent of Altin, Golomol Altin/unknown - parent of Eflam Selman/unknown - parent of Nostan Vilamam/unknown - none noted Nostan/unknown - none noted Romala/unknown - parent of Odnetam, Vilamam Krotala/unknown - parent of Romala, Selman Bauta/unknown - parent of Eflam Eflam/unknown - parent of Romala, Selman Golomol/unknown - parent of Krotola Namal/unknown - parent of Odnetam, Vilamam Tilntae List Tawara/unknown - parent of Tawari Afarl/unknown - parent of Afrala Eleria/unknown - parent of Siglat Eloa/unknown - Afrala Flemela/unknown - parent of Vegetables? Herma/unknown - parent of Eleria Wale/unknown - parent of Krotola Reenea/unknown - parent of Einar Odnetam/unknown - parent of Herma, Eleria Tilntae/Animals? - parent of Animals? Menele/unknown - parent of Wale Hylia/Animals? - parent of Vrimak, Permal, Palar, Vrimaka, Golod, Jaskal, Lofak Lokala/Wolves - none noted Rathora/Bears and/or Predators? - parent of Rathori Philia/unknown - none noted - spouse of Malkion, perhaps parent of those children? Ineke/unknown - parent of Vadela

This is my current understanding of all the known, and perhaps unknown, entities we mere mortals call “Kolati”. Perhaps we can together fill in the gaps? Subject to change as knowledge expands, and presented in no particular order. I am unclear if offspring of a Kolati are such themselves. Any thoughts? Format Key is - Name/Sphere of Influence - Children/Offspring Amolt/North Wind - parent of Altsom, Rathor, Lokali Garrl/unknown - none noted Aoea/East Isles Whirlwind - none noted Elsom/East Wind - none noted Ael/unknown - parent of Aerlit Frisom/South Wind - none noted Iinam/unknown - none noted Altsom/unknown - parent of Aerlo, Reela Aerlit/unknown - parent of Yelia, Malkion Malkion/Prophet - parent of Zzabur, Waertag, Dromal, Holar, Kala, Talar, Jorann Reela/unknown - parent of Garrl, Iinam Yelia/unknown - none noted

This is my current understanding of all the known, and perhaps unknown, entities we mere mortals call “Luathans”. Perhaps we can together fill in the gaps? Subject to change as knowledge expands, and presented in no particular order. I am unclear if offspring of a Luathan are such themselves. Any thoughts? Format Key is - Name/Sphere of Influence - Children/Offspring Vamth/West Gate Guardian - parent of Natea, Ulestir Fonalt/unknown - parent of Akato Frenota/unknown - none noted Jeleka/unknown - parent of Aklor Zenoa/unknown - parent of Rhylor?, Fonalt? Tedloa/unknown - parent of Natea Akato/unknown - none noted Ochrel/Sky Lord - none noted Natea/unknown - parent of Akato Aklor/War Leader - none noted Elyra/unknown - none noted Luatha/unknown - parent of Aklor, Elyra, Aora Zrethus/unknown - parent of Ochrel, Zenoa Ulestir/unknown - none noted

This is my current understanding of all the known, and perhaps unknown, entities we mere mortals call “Triolini”. Perhaps we can together fill in the gaps? Subject to change as knowledge expands, and presented in no particular order. I am unclear if offspring of a Triolini are such themselves. For example, I see no documentation that King Undine himself is a Triolini, though he certainly may be. Any thoughts? Format Key is - Name/Sphere of Influence - Children/Offspring Warera/unknown - parent of Westef, Malkion, Trioline Ormak/Water Volcanoes - parent of Deros Yeula/unknown - parent of Ioa, Peeled Wartain - parent of Warera Alekem/Eastern Bays - none noted, though all the Eastern Bays are children perhaps…… Lema/unknown - parent of Aora, Elyra Westef/unknown - none noted Triolina/Fertility - parent of King Undine, Mirintha, Murthdrya, Tholaina, Pharagon, possibly others.. Flalar/unknown - parent of Delmala Remelor/unknown - none noted Deros/unknown - note noted Jonala/unknown - none noted Watan/unknown - parent of Wartain Trioline/unknown - parent of Westef Akra/Underworld Rivers - none noted Tanian/Fiery Waters - none noted

Thank you David, for the Camel Clarification. My files are updated.

Once long ago, on the Plains of Prax and the Wastes, large herds of lion-riding barbarians hunted and raided their unfortunate neighbors perhaps.

My version of Glorantha contains 27 unique herd animals associated with Prax and/or the Wastes. Your Glorantha probably is different, but if not, we must blame Trickster. I welcome any thoughts on the matter, but please, be gentle. Many of these animals are extant, some only remembered, and others we no longer consider. Some are better, some lesser, and a few are quite different. Of course, this much interpretation, lazy memory, moderate modification, and wild speculation yields imperfect results, and this list is probably imperfect, and for that we must blame Trickster. They are offered below in no particular order. Subject to change as knowledge increases. Extant - the "now", of most Gloranthan settings. Rhino Horse Unicorn Zebra Antelope Bolo Lizard Ostritch High Llama Morocanth - they keep Herd-Men, and thus are unique Impala Sable Bison Donkey - herd beast of the Cannibal Cult it seems Bird Lizard - probably same as Bolo Lizard, but different in my Glorantha Lion - lions, and other Basmoli, are no longer herd beasts in my Glorantha Animals remembered only in the “now”, but we have some information, be it true or otherwise. Subject to change as knowledge increases. Camel - associated with a Trickster prank involving Genert if I recall correctly Eight-Legs - big spiders and an Uz tribe I assume, and Humans perhaps…… Plains Elk - known to be true, we think. Nose-Horn - it seems the “real” name if forgotten. Or is it? Long -Ears - see above Long-Nose - see above Horn-Nose - see above Antler-Head - see above Rib-Hide - see above Some herd animals are no longer known, and even their names are gone. In my Glorantha, I declare the remaining Praxian herd animals that once existed, and that might be encountered in the Other Side. Subject to change as knowledge increases. Cow - they are relatively common in Genertela I gather, and Uralda lives nearby. Pig - see above, different goddess Buffalo - of course little, but bigger, brother to Bison, and apparently not as stout