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A shaman has control of a spirit after beating it in spirit combat e.g. ghost or elemental

I'm assuming that this is similar to having a spirit in a binding enchantment

In other words the spirit can be commanded to do a task and is then free. Would the use of a control spell allow the spirit to be forced to return. For example fire element go and attack the troll then return 

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1 hour ago, ajs said:

A shaman has control of a spirit after beating it in spirit combat e.g. ghost or elemental

They can either learn a spirit magic from it,  drive it away back to the spirit world or cast spirit binding

1 hour ago, ajs said:

I'm assuming that this is similar to having a spirit in a binding enchantment

If specifically binding, they need to cast spirit binding or cast a relevant control spell and have a prepared item or a crystal ready.

1 hour ago, ajs said:

In other words the spirit can be commanded to do a task and is then free.

Yes, but it has no magic points. 

1 hour ago, ajs said:

Would the use of a control spell allow the spirit to be forced to return. For example fire element go and attack the troll then return

No. You'd need an already bound spirit, you command the spirit and once finished returns to the binding. 

If a control spell is used before the entity is released, then it can be commanded to perform many actions and return to the binding item. Control spells automatically work against creatures while they are bound in items. RQG 249-250.

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12 hours ago, ajs said:

I'm assuming that this is similar to having a spirit in a binding enchantment

As long as the spirit’s POW is less than the Shaman’s Fetch’s POW (minus any already captured spirits), the spirit is automatically captured in the Fetch as soon as its MPs are reduced to zero. No spirit binding or control spell is required. While captured in the fetch, the spirits act as if they are bound (cast spells, provide MP, or release them to perform a single task unless you cast a control spell first). 

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