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Oslir gives SurEnslib Water Walk, and Biselenslib Control Flood. Yestendos provides both with Float so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't grant Oslir the same spell.

Oslir is also the wife of Alkor but he doesn't grant any spells so far, as far as I could see.

What annoys me most about Homeland skills is the huge numbers of weapon skill adds. I don't care about having a bonus to both Medium and Large Shields, for example. Just give me a bonus to weapon categories, for example Shields, Swords, Axes and so on, that makes things a lot simpler.

On 11/4/2023 at 10:02 AM, Jose-san said:

I did some comparisons with distances with other maps and I got an approximate scale of about 1.6 - 1.7 km/cm

Which is fine until you view it on a monitor and expand in to it. That's why I prefer a scale being physically present on the map, showing distance in miles and kilometres.

On 11/1/2023 at 10:26 AM, Shiningbrow said:

So, Stormbull was around before Chaos came into the world - which is where he got most of his reputation.

But, is there anything about worshipping this aspect of him without the associated Chaos-killing?? (as in, full temples/shrines without even knowledge about it?? Much like other gods who aren't aware of other aspects worshipped in the rest of lozenge)

In Prax the two aspects are worshipped together. So, Storm Bull is the Father of Beasts, Eiritha's Husband, the Father of the Founders, Father of Waha and so on. In Eiritha Temples that is how he is worshipped. But Praxians also know that he is a Chaos Fighter as well and they don't separate his worship. Praxians might worship him as the Desert Wind but he doesn't give much as that is a dry, harsh wind that is not useful to Praxians.

Minotaurs might worship Storm Bull as a Founder, without his Chaos-Fighting stuff. 

On 10/23/2023 at 9:38 PM, g33k said:

Is that correct/canonical?

As far as I know, that is still the case.

On 10/23/2023 at 9:38 PM, g33k said:

Has anything official changed it?

Not as far as I know.

Glorantha Bestiary p 73 says "Since the Trollkin Curse, trolls have decreed that all multiple births are trollkin".

1 hour ago, Steve said:

Is this update going to correct items that have been changed in the Mythology book, to bring the two in line?

For example, the Glorantha Sourcebook has the first six members of the Unity Council as:

One is a mythological list and one is a historical list. Makes sense to me.

On 10/18/2023 at 1:27 AM, bronze said:

Is the Invisible God real?

Yes.

On 10/18/2023 at 1:27 AM, bronze said:

Even if it is real, if mystery predates law and reason, it can't be all-powerful.

Who says that it is all-powerful? Malkiioni and Brithini certainly don't.

On 10/18/2023 at 1:27 AM, bronze said:

Infinity rune is owned by Arachne Solara, and it dosen't even have a Mastery rune. The ultimate creator and prime mover of cosmos who can't even master itself, and less infinite than enforcer of the Cosmic Compromise? 

It owns the Law Rune, I think, but I haven't checked. It also has the Magic and Infinity Rune. Not all powerful deities own multiple Runes.

On 10/18/2023 at 1:27 AM, bronze said:

Also, in the numeric order of the Cults, the Invisible God is penultimate, located below the Horned God and followed only by the Lunar Gods. Wondering whether it does intimate that the Invisible God is the lastest god to come, or at least be revealed, in Time. Considering mystery predates and hold precedence over law and reason, perhaps the former might be closer to the truth. 

Is this the order of publication of the Cults books? Chaosium have their own reasons for the order that the books come out. It certainly isn't due to the order that the Deities appeared in Glorantha, otherwise Darkness would have been the first to be published.

17 hours ago, bronze said:

Wondering why Kralorela has never managed to establish a world empire. After all, Orlanthi achieved it with much less. Is it due to development of Wyrmtongue? 

Why bother? Kralorela was perfect in the Golden Age and the Emperors have been trying to make it perfect again. The rest of Glorantha can continue to wallow in its filth and impurity for all they care. Kralorela helped the EWF in the Second Age and look what happened then, they learned that lesson.

17 hours ago, bronze said:

It is said the Void and Chaos refer to distinct concepts, but it is difficult to specify how they differ from each other. 

Void is nothingness, emptiness, the loss of existence.

Chaos is corruption, destruction, the loss of everything.

So, they are very different.

Some people want to return Glorantha to Primal Chaos, which is the state of not being, and identify that as the Void. However, the Void is not simply Primal Chaos, for Primal Chaos is something, and the Void is nothing.

6 hours ago, glarkhag said:

Ok, I've not got the source that states that and if it does it's in conflict with Weapons and Equipment, which states  "there is a lively trade in coal with Dragon Pass, particularly Boldhome and Furthest. There, it is used in hypocausts to heat baths and homes." 

It was my opinion, not a source. I don't see the use of coal and oil as particularly Bronze Age, although bitumen seems to have been used in the Bronze Age, and lignite was used for carving in the Neolithic. 

17 hours ago, bronze said:

Has Nysalor always been Gbaji, or cursed to be Gbaji by Arkat?

For me, Osentalka the Perfect One was born during the Sunstop, as was Arkat. Osentalka then became two personalities in the same body, Nysalor and Gbaji. It may be that Osentalka originally embodied both sides of his personality but at some point they became two. So, Nysalor and Gbajiwere two personalities in the same body. Does that mean they are the same person? Maybe, it could do. I can't remember what caused the split, maybe it was Arkat, maybe it was something else.

17 hours ago, bronze said:

Are both Arkat and Nysalor Gbaji?

Some people say that when Arkat and Gbaji fought their final battle, one emerged but nobody knew which it was. If you have seen the excellent Scanners film, it might be something like how that ends.

For me, Arkat could have been split into two personalities by the battle, in the same way that Osentalka was, but in his case it was Gbaji the Destroyer a non-chaotic version of Arkat, who was awakened.

17 hours ago, bronze said:

Is Gbaji a disparate entity from its host, or they are inseparable?

I think they are two sides of the same coin, so Gbaji is another side of the personality of the main person. So Osentalka/Nysalor and Osentalka/Gbaji are two different personalities but the same person. If you think of it as a cinematic split personality then it might make sense.

17 hours ago, bronze said:

Is Gabji objectively real, or is it a product of conflicting interpretation?

Oh, Gbaji is objectively real.

17 hours ago, bronze said:

It is really confusing, and it seems as if every scholar harbours their own theories and interpretations on the subject. 

Is is really confusing and, I think, deliberately so. Everyone has their own interpretation, so have a look and decide which bits you like.

1 hour ago, Erol of Backford said:

Do we have sources for trolls tainted with chaos? Just curious...

Cave Trolls and Sea Trolls.

Both were changed by Pocharngo and neither became chaotic by eating kin.

Glorantha hasn't shrunk but the people within it have.

The Deities were gigantic. Larnste sat down when he was tired of creating the Rockwoods and where he sat became Dragon Pass. His Footprint is a huge Chaos Nest in the Holy Country. Genert was a huge giant with a massive Garden, to us, but it was more like his back yard. 

So, for the Deities, Glorantha was really small.

As people have become smaller, the land seems larger than ever before.

Now, some of the land has vanished beneath the waters. At one stage, everything was dry land but then the waters invaded and sank much of it. The Spike exploded. Both of those events reduced the amount of land available, making Glorantha appear smaller.

On 10/17/2023 at 3:54 PM, g33k said:

I don't expect Chaosium to substantially advance the timeline/metaplot (*).

I do, with more detail of the Hero Wars.

On 10/17/2023 at 3:54 PM, g33k said:

We know the basic shape of things, if we want to lore-delve; but the *players* are supposed be making the future, their characters joining the Hero Wars.

I have run a group through the Hero Wars twice, with great success. Each time the Adventurers were the focus, driving events and performing many of the deeds described in King of Sartar, not as contrived events, but as natural things that came out of the Campaign.

On 10/17/2023 at 3:54 PM, g33k said:

The deeper into the future Chaosium publishes Greg's metaplot, the less and less there is scope for the PCs.

Absolutely wrong, in my experience. The deeper I went into the metaplot the more scope the Adventurers had to change things or to follow the broad brush approach. Nobody felt railroaded into everything, we changed a lot of stuff through the actions of the Adventurers and made the Hero Wars their own. I cannot remember Mello Yello becoming the Golden Dragon Emperor of Dara Happa in the official metaplot, for example.

On 10/19/2023 at 7:55 PM, Squaredeal Sten said:

Does anyone have an opinion about how long that term is?

Until the Volcano gets hungry.

22 hours ago, bronze said:

Why most of Dragonnewts and other draconic creatures live in Kralorela, despite of historical significance of the Dragon Pass? After all, the Dragon Nest is located in the Dragon Pass, and that is why the Dragonkill did occur. Does the East contain a greater Nest? 

For me, there were two Draconic centres in GodTime, Dragon Pass and Kralorela. They were equally as important. The Dragonewts of Dragon Pass had Inhuman Kings as their ruler, or end state, before the Inhuman King turned into a Dragon. The Dragonewts of Kralorela had the Dragon Emperor as their leader and their Rulers turned into Dragons without reaching the Inhuman King state.

22 hours ago, bronze said:

And what is the nature of the Void and otherworlds the True Dragons ultimately return by performing utuma? 

Nothingness, the Emptiness, the lack of everything, the Unknowable.

On 10/18/2023 at 9:46 AM, Glacir said:

In RQ3, some of the regions (Safelster and Jonatela, Kingdom of Ignorance) grant all characters access either to Divine Magic or to Sorcery. How would one adapt that into RQ:G ruleset?

To be honest, I wouldn't bother. For me, Sorcery is dull and boring, it is too complex and doesn't really interest me.

Better to have Rune and Spirit Magic for most people, with Sorcerers using Sorcery.

15 hours ago, Erol of Backford said:

What is this Hero Quest with Storm Ramwool and rocks?

It is probably an experimental HeroQuest of Berantyr's own making. Storm Ram wool, in my Glorantha, is Tin, as Tin is my Storm Element. Is he going to use the rocks to spin the wool and knit some magical clothing? Is he going to beat the wool with the rocks, or make a sling to fire the rocks?

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The world after Moonfall

Moonfall is a catastrophe. Sure, the Red Goddess is torn from the sky, but she is still there as a Goddess and can still be reached. The Lunar Empire is no more and a vast Void is there where the Red Moon was, that cannot be a good thing. Without the Lunars to guard them, horrors crawl from the Crater and spread across Peloria. Monsters kept in check by the Lunar Empire, or given a safe place to live in, expand and are no longer constrained. The leaders of the Monster Empire are dead, so cannot hold back their monsters any more.

22 hours ago, bronze said:

How deeds of Argarth ultimately changed the world?

Have a look at King of Sartar. There are centuries of horrors. The seas flood the lands and then go away. Trolls are made extinct, except for a few in the ruins of Cragspider's Castle. There are a whole load of things listed, all as a direct result of Argrath's actions.

In fact, Argrath has to go on a Second Lightbringer Quest to try and fix what he did in the first place. It was then that his Trickster traps the Deities in Arachne Solara's net and Wakboth kills them all.

I can't remember any. But, think about it, Firebone and Earthblood are sacred to the Caladra and Aurelion cult. Nobody else is really interested in it. You can do almost as must with charcoal as with Firebone. What is Earthblood good for except burning? There are lots of other oils that can burn and are easier to make. So, the market for Firebone and Earthblood is limited outside the C&A cult.

On 10/1/2023 at 8:48 PM, kalidor said:

Can Sartar be aproached as an Ancestors Cult?

Yes, in fact members of the House of Sartar probably treated him as the head of an Ancestor cult.

I match the damage done vs Hit Points on the Resistance Table, with a success meaning a knockout. So, if I do 5 points of damage against an opponent with 12 HPs then I match 5 vs 12, giving me a 15% chance, rolling 11 means the opponent is knocked out, rolling 34 means the knockout is unsuccessful. With Locational HP, I match the damage vs the Hit Location value, which makes it an easier roll, but CoC doesn't have locational hit point, I believe.

On 10/11/2023 at 1:49 PM, g33k said:

Iron is the metal of Death:  Humakt knows its secrets!

Iron was invented by the Mostali to kill Aldryami and Uz, so comes later than Death. As a Darkness Power, Death might originally have been made of Lead but each deity who used it probably forged a weapon from their own metal.

On 10/9/2023 at 3:35 PM, Moragion said:

Thanks everyone for the answers! I didn't know there was something called the Hero Wars.

Have a look at King of Sartar, as that details the main part of the Hero Wars. Some people don't like future history to be so detailed, as they feel that it constrains the game too much, but I have run Players through the Hero Wars twice with the Adventurers taking a central part in the action.

On 10/9/2023 at 4:40 PM, Zac said:

Would a deity, an actual physical presence with a personality, want to be known by more than one name?

Names are just titles, they all point to the same deity. So, the deities won't mind being called different things.

Look at our world, Paul, Pablo, Pavel all refer to the same person. Sean, Jean, John, and Johan are the same name in different languages.

20 hours ago, Jeff said:

Personally, I view it as the opposite. It is an essential book to understanding the setting. It is the decoder ring to get the interplay between mortals and gods in Glorantha (which to me is THE defining feature of the setting). But to each their own.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think that it is a marvellous book and should be one of the fundamental books for a Gloranthan Campaign, alongside the Rulebook, Bestiary and Red Book of Magic. However, it is possible to run a campaign with just the RQG Rulebook.

If people want richer campaigns then the Rulebook, Bestiary, Red Book of Magic, Arms & Equipment and Mythology would be very useful to have. The Cults books, in general, are very useful, especially if the Players want to explore different cultures, or if GMs want to include more detailed NPCs.