Christoph Kohring

Thank you for the precise answer, David! Now that you have mentioned it, it sounds obvious but I didn't realize that until now.

For those who didn't read Peter Metcalfe's answer here:

"As often as he wants.

It's only when he or she releases the spirit at a bonus of 3 (HQ:Glorantha p136) that the spirit is knackered and the charm temporarily still."

No kidding?!! Wasn't it Gary Gygax in the DMG who had something to say on this very topic?!? It's not only YGWV but YHQ:GWV also, right?!!

On 29/08/2016 at 6:56 PM, Zit said:

I understand the Communities as keywords. Am I right ? Is it possible to have a contact as a break-out of a community ?

In S:KoH as well as in P:GtA your character did indeed have a Community keyword. Sadly not so anymore in HQ:G where the HW:RiG/ HQ:RiG concept of a Culture keyword was reintroduced & where you only have a Community ability.

P. 95: "CLAN CHIEFTAIN: KULBRAST OFFIRSON g[lW]"

[Contra S:KoH, p. 123: "Opposed Runes Orlanth is in conflict with the runes of Chaos (?), Moon (/) and Stasis (c)."]

P. 96: "Kulbrast Offirson g[lW]"

As a non-illuminated initiate of Orlanth, Kulbrast cannot have the Stasis Rune. Why not replace it by, say, the Harmony Rune as I corrected it above? Thus Kulbrast Offirson: Air/ Harmony/ Mastery (To follow also the classical template of Element Rune/ Power Rune/ Other Rune [Power, Condition, Form, whatever... ])

On 25/07/2016 at 11:37 PM, Ian Cooper said:

[...]

p.20 Agreed.  Koschei's Distinguishing Characteristic of hard Bitten shouldbe at 17+2=19 not 13+2=15

Accordingly:

THE HARD-BITTEN CATTLE RAIDER

Background

Hero Name: Koschei the Weary
Player Name: Ben
Campaign: The Coming Storm
Culture: [Heortling 13]
[Sworn Man to Kangharl Black-Brow +1
Member of the Tormakting bloodline +1]
Community: Red Cow Clan [13] [...]

Concept

Occupation Keyword: [Cattle Raider] 7W
Standard of Living: Common
Distinguishing Characteristic: Hard Bitten [19]

Runes

g Air 13 [(passionate, unpredictable, violent)]
s Movement 1W (adventurous, dynamic, impulsive, reckless)
Initiate of [Ulanin the Rider (subcult of Orlanth Adventurous)] [...]
t Death [17] [(relentless, ruthless, unemotional)]

Other

[…]
Companion: [Garfin the Grumpy &] Lucky Alynx [...]
Alynx 20
[Y] [Yinkin] 1W
Nine-Lives [+4]
[Grumpy 13]

Flaw: In love with Talastaring settler of Wulfsland 7W
Flaw: Broddi Disapproves 1W

[Unspent Additional Abilities: 2]
[Unspent Ability Points: 0]

Steve, look at my corrections.

15 minutes ago, Ian Cooper said:

Thanks Christopher. It might help me to highlight the decisions you made on the fixes but this seems to be a good summary.

You're welcome, Ian, I'm glad you like it!?! All the fixes I did are in square brackets. That includes things added, omitted, ratings corrected, keywords bolded, etc...

HQ:G - TCS: EXAMPLES OF CHARACTERS p. 17-20 & p. 136-141

Unfortunately - in the grand tradition of HW:RiG, HQ:RiG, HQ:CR, S:KoH  as well as P:GtA - none (that is zero, zip, nil, nought, nada, zilch!) of TCS' "Examples of Characters" have been built correctly according to the -very simple- HQ:G rules, as has been the case with all sample characters ever done either by Issaries or Moon Design Publications!

All my corrections are in square brackets [...].

P. 17: "Keywords are in bold for ease of reference." Except for the Runes, none of the keywords have been bolded... so let's do it!

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THE VENGEFUL HUNTER 

P. 17: "As an Orlanthi male, Erik takes the Air Rune [...] as well, and he takes the Life Rune to represent his character’s love of bedding the young women of other clans." 

"He also breaks out an Ability under his Yinkin [Rune] to represent his adventures as a lover."

"Finally Erik adds the Flaw[:] The Emerald Sword Killed My Father, meaning he will find it hard to react peaceably [to] encounters with the northern neighbors." 

Background 

Hero Name: Olend Many-Moods 
Player Name: Erik
Campaign: The Coming Storm
Culture: [Heortling] [13] 
[Hate Dinacoli +1]
Community: Red Cow Clan 13 

Concept 

Occupation [...]: [Hunter] 7W
Iron Arrows +[1]
Iron Hunting Knife +[1]
Standard of Living: Common
Distinguishing Characteristic: Vengeful [19]

Runes

g Air 17 [(passionate, proud, unpredictable, violent)]
[x] [Life 13] [(generous, lustful)]
[Y] [Yinkin 1W] (lustful, curious, loyal)
Initiate of Yinkin
Flee Jealous Husband +[1]

Other

[...]

Flaw: The Emerald Sword killed my father [8W]

[Unspent Additional Abilities: 1]
[Unspent Ability Points: 0]

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THE RATTLE-BORN WARRIOR

P. 18: "He will be a bold warrior who gives no quarter to the clan’s enemies, but also [embodies] Orlanth’s virtues so that the clan learns to honor the Rattle-Born too." 

"After taking [...] [four] Breakout Abilities Mark decides that his encounter with Orlanth's Rattle has strengthened his connection with Storm, and so spends 4 points to raise his Air Rune up to 5W."

"Neil suggests that he [earns] his keep as a bodyguard or housecarl to one of the Rivals — and Mark picks Kangharl Black-Brow as the most appropriate, taking membership of the Tormakting bloodline. Finally, [as a Flaw] he also takes Rattle-Born representing his immaturity [...]."

Background 

Hero Name: Londrol Spear-Rattler
Player Name: Mark
Campaign: The Coming Storm
Culture: [Heortling] [13]
[Housecarl to Kangharl Black-Brow +1
Member of the [Tormakting] Bloodline +1]
Community: Red Cow Clan 13 [...]

Concept 

Occupation [...]: [Mercenary] 1W 
Standard of Living: Common 
Distinguishing Characteristic: [Rattle Born] 1[W] 
[Berserker Rage +1 
Big and Strong +1]

Runes 

g Air 5W [(passionate, [...] unpredictable, violent)]
Initiate of Orlanth [Thunderous] [...]
s Movement [17] [(adventurous, dynamic, impulsive, reckless)]
t Death 13 [(relentless, ruthless, unemotional)]

Other

[...]

Flaw: Rattle Born [5]W 

[Unspent Additional Abilities: 1]
[Unspent Ability Points: 0]

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THE FEARLESS HEALER 

"Decides" is used 9 times in the description...

"Thinking about a Narrative Hook, Claudia is inspired by Neil talking about the Maboder, the Cinsina’s neighboring tribe [which] the Telmori annihilated." 

"Neil also suggests that she might like to be a member of [a] rebel movement — the Daughters of Mabodh — so Claudia takes a relationship with Enastara the Red, the rebel leader." 

"After discussion with Neil, Claudia takes these Breakout Abilities under her Heortling [...] keyword as they represent her background."

Background 

Hero Name: Maklami Friend of Heroes
Player Name: Claudia
Campaign: The Coming Storm
Culture: [Heortling] [20]
[Adopted Daughter of Broddi Strong-Kin +1 
Fine [jewelry], clothes, and cosmetics +1
Follower of Enastara the Red +1]
Community: Red Cow Clan 13 

Concept 

Occupation [...]: [Healer] 2W
Standard of Living: Prosperous
Distinguishing Characteristic: Fearless 17

Runes 

e Earth [17] [(pragmatic, prudent, sensual)]
x Life 13 [(generous, lusty, vivacious)]
l Harmony [1]W [(influential, sensible, wise)]
Initiate of Ernalda [the Binder and Weaver] [...]

Other

[...]

Flaw: Haughty 2W

[Unspent Additional Abilities: 2]
[Unspent Ability Points: 0]

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THE HONORABLE THANE 

"Neil suggests [that] Jeff [takes] the Thane keyword and Jeff agrees, identifying honor as the trait that most characterizes the Chisum character for him."

"Jeff also takes [a relationship] with Kangharl Black-Brow of the Rivals, as a direct competitor in clan politics.“

Background 

Hero Name: Rastalulf the Tall 
Player Name: Jeff 
Campaign: The Coming Storm 
Culture: [Heortling] [13]
[Rival to Kangharl Black-Brow +1 
Loyalty [to] Enerin Bristle-Beard +1]
Community: Red Cow Clan 13 [...]
 
Concept 

Occupation [...]: [Thane] 7W
[Herd] of Red Cows +1
Bronze Cuirass, Greaves, and Helm +1
Standard of Living: Prosperous
Distinguishing Characteristic: Honorable [18] (see Runes)

Runes

g Air 13 (passionate, unpredictable, violent)
[y Truth 17 (truthful, observant)
Honorable +1]
[W] Mastery 1W [(just, proud [...])]
Initiate of Orlanth [Rex] [...]

[...]

Other

[...]

Flaw: Trusting [8]W
 
[Unspent Additional Abilities: 1]
Unspent Ability Points: 2

———————————————————

THE LAUGHING MERCENARY 

"She takes the Movement Rune and Life [Rune] as well." 

"She takes relationships with both [as] Breakout Abilities." 

Background 

Hero Name: Barbessa Laugh-Much 
Player Name: Kerstin
Campaign: The Coming Storm
Culture: [Heortling] [13]
[Follower of Orstalor Spearlord +1 
Follower of Borngold Many-Brothers +1]
Community: Red Cow Clan 13 [...]

Concept 

Occupation [...]: [Mercenary] 7W
Standard of Living: Common
Distinguishing Characteristic: Always Laughing 17

Runes 

w Water 1W (mercurial, [fertile, sexually ambiguous])
Initiate of [Engizi subcult of Heler]
s Movement 17 [(brave, impulsive, passionate)]
x Life 13 [(generous, lustful)]

Other

[...]

Flaw: Impulsive 7W 
Flaw: Unusual Appearance 1W 

[Unspent Additional Abilities: 3]
Unspent Ability Points: 2

———————————————————

THE HARD-BITTEN CATTLE RAIDER 

P. 20: "Ben chooses to take an alynx [named Garfin] for one of his abilities as a sidekick. He has read Sartar: Kingdom of Heroes and takes one of its three abilities as the Yinkin Rune at 17. He takes the Alynx keyword for [an] Ability at [13], and gives his companion [the Grumpy personality trait] for [another] Ability at 13[. D]eciding it is a lucky cat [he breaks out the ability Nine-Lives from the Yinkin Rune]. Ben has [14] points to spend. He spends 4 points to raise the alynx’s Yinkin Rune to 1W and make it an initiate of Yinkin. He then spends 7 points on its Alynx ability and [3] on Nine-Lives."

HQ:G p. 50: "Give your companion a name. [...] Companions start with three abilities, one rated at 17 and the others at 13. Any of these abilities may be a keyword. At least one of them should indicate a personality trait [italics added]."

On 23 juillet 2016 at 11:00 AM, soltakss said:

I think that moving to incremental percentiles was one of the strengths of RQ3. Another was removing limits on variable/stackable magic.

Hear! Hear!

In RQIII you could have Bladesharp 8 but you had to defeat a spell spirit with on average POW 16 (8D3). Now, either your priest or shaman summoned a random one or he had a bound or known one of lesser POW -say 13- & that made all the difference in the world, didn't it?!?

4 hours ago, Steve said:

Thanks for these. But for Maklami, you mean she should have 17 in either Earth or Life, right? Assuming she's spent all 12 points on raising Harmony to 13W (the text doesn't say, unless I've missed it). I've added these in.

Why does Maklami Friend of Heroes' "Flaw: Haughty" have a rating of "2W"?!? Because her highest ability -her occupation keyword, Healer- is rated at 2W (17 + 5).

Because she has already increased her Heortling cultural keyword by 7 to a rating of 20, she hasn't any point left (5 + 7 = 12) to increase her Harmony Rune which thus stays with its beginning rating of 1W. QED!?!

On 20/07/2016 at 0:40 PM, Steve said:

Thanks for these. But for Maklami, you mean she should have 17 in either Earth or Life, right? Assuming she's spent all 12 points on raising Harmony to 13W (the text doesn't say, unless I've missed it). I've added these in.

HQ:G p. 46: "You can’t spend more than 10 points on any one ability."

This thread -just like the other one- should be in the HeroQuest sub-forum. The Coming Storm is an HQ supplement. The Glorantha sub-forum should be reserved for system-free discussion of the setting.

Errata, gentlemen, errata.

This thread should be in the HeroQuest subforum not in the Glorantha one... just saying! 

One way of seeing all of this could be:

- Following Jajagappa, beginning Humakti heroes get the Sword Fighting ability at 1M, whereas heroes who initiate to Humakt in play get Sword Fighting at their Death Rune rating.

- As Joerg said, all heroes who want to increase their Death Rune rating need to first make sure that their Sword Fighting ability is already higher.

This would probably bring some amount of the game balance Steve is looking for to what else would appear as a powergamer's wet dream.

Funnily enough there is a sample Humakti starting hero in the rules -Karganvale the Vengeful Mercenary-  but sadly she doesn't have any specific Sword Fighting ability...