Tindalos

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Available now in print on demand format, as well as pdf, this Jonstown Compendium supplement grants a look into Heortling perceptions of gender, is illustrated by the excellent Katrin Dirim, and includes write ups for Nandan, Vinga, and Heler.

The author's share of proceeds will be donated to the UK charity Mermaids, while Chaosium's share will be donated to the Transgender Law Center.

Some (admittedly very crude) photos of the print version are attached, to give you an idea of what the finished version looks like.

The following NPCs have the Spirit Magic spell of Lantern

These characters are not members of the cult of Yelmalio, who hold the spell as a cult secret (Red Book of Magic page 107)

Should these be the Light spell instead?

While this crosses over into theme of Your Dumbest Theory thread, my brain couldn't help but notice.

Dai- is often used to mean big, large, arch-

Ichi is the number one.

So it could be said to be Best First. Or in pseudo latin:

1 hour ago, Sir_Godspeed said:

The binominal names come from Anaxial's Roster, don't they? Is that intended to have a God Learner narrator? Anaxial is a Dara Happan emperor, after all.
(I have not read it, only seen references and excerpts)

They're earlier, used in the RQ:3 Bestiaries. (Including the Gloranthan Bestiary)

I think Anaxial's Roster was the first source to say the names came from the God Learner Ocron Everseer (Page 7 and 9), although Ocron Everseer was mentioned in the Gloranthan Bestiary, as the cataloguer of the species within.

47 minutes ago, Jose said:

Thanks! Is unexpected, so is one of the few gods with the mastery rune (the rune for heroes) and an earth goddess nonetheless. 

The sourcebook does describe her as the tutelary goddess for heroes (page 90), so that does make sense.

Book 1, page 40: Become (Other Sex) has a cost of 3. In Narres Runepainter's portfolio the spell has a cost of 1.

26 minutes ago, metcalph said:

*I think that in places, a sizable population of commoners are initiated into other patrons, such as Kadenit, Kachast etc

I imagine that in Seshnela, this also gives rise to some of the subcastes/guilds, with them being remnants of those patron's peoples. After centuries (well, the god time equivalent) of being conquered, becoming refugees, and losing a lot of their heritage, the Kadeniti workers may have kept some of their traditions alive by becoming, say, the Stonemason's guild to build homes and shrines.

1 hour ago, David Scott said:

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. If a player selects Eiritha as a cult for their adventurer they can worship her throughout the region described in the core rules. In reality it would likely mean visiting Ernalda temples to do so, but that's not an issue as they are pretty common.

Nothing. See Lay Members in the core rules, page 274.

I think what they're saying is they were under the impression that lay members had joined their cult, and that this would mean that the requirements for joining Eiritha's cult involved being a female Praxian. As you referenced the Lay Members section on page 274, that section does talk about joining the cult as a lay member, and that many cults have restrictions on those doing so. From that phrasing, it's easy to come to the conclusion that the section talking about how Eiritha's cult can only be joined by female Praxians refers to all the cult, not just the hierarchy.

As Nick Brooke has clarified "joining" is actually referring to "joining the hierarchy" that does explain things.

(or that it's somehow possible to become a member of a cult without joining it, which sounds somewhat like a Nysalorian Riddle.)

22 minutes ago, Alex said:

The Guide's statement is only about the prevalence of bobcat-people, so could certainly still have the animals the Peloria.

Also since the Rinkoni live along the southern borders of Fronela, the animal may also have spread into northern Ralios, where potential meetings with Shadowcats might happen.

(And yeah, the size of 1d6 is still in play. It's similar to the Hunting Dog's 1d6+1)

1 hour ago, Alex said:

Or as snow leopards with bold facial-hair fashion-choices!  (Or housecat-sized mini-maos, and all points in between, of course.)

It's certain to be Post-Canonical (or never-was-canonical, not certain), Wrong, and no-doubt will get frowned at for even being mentioned mythlet about a rivalry between Bobcat and Yinkin.  It makes a very big deal out of the Spirit vs God thing (this was from the height of the '-20 for being in the incorrect category' silliness), and it did specifically feature L. rufus losing his tail, and connecting that to their Four Methods/Three Worlds mutual disdain.  Can't recall any specifics beyond that, nor if it was in a magazine, online, or then-official, and a hasty and half-hearted google doesn't help.  I'm confident someone will crit a Lore roll and have the exact reference for you.  So there might be something worth looting there, or ignoring, depending on taste, YGWV, etc.

Actually on a more general google, now that I think of it, there's the Rinkoni, a Fronelan bobcat-hsunchen people, and those are in the Guide, and is very much in line with Jamie and Greg's old "Hsunchen Peoples of Genertela" document.  So the bare background facts of the above are still good, it looks like.

Also, a Happy Mew Year to everyone!     😾

Yeah, that mythlet was in Anaxial's Roster, as part of the bobcat's description (not surprisingly) which also had them living in Peloria.

15 minutes ago, soltakss said:

As a Brit, Pantomime must be in Glorantha, somewhere.

It's behind you!

On 12/26/2021 at 1:29 AM, Erol of Backford said:

Back to Black Arkat, is the "The Brown Book of Zzabur" still accurate?

http://zzabursbrownbook.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-house-of-black-arkat.html

Also I have Tradetalk 12 and ToRM 13 with some detail on Black Arkat is any of that still relative? Is Jansholm still the HQ as stated in Tradetalk 12?

What is the Kobakuruum?!

Yes, as Richard S. notes that write up's by me. It's based on official sources, but with its own expansion. So unlikely to be accurate to an official write up, but if it's of interest or use, then I'm glad.

The potato's range is across southern coasts from Kethaela to Seshnela, and like corn it is fed with blood.

20 hours ago, Beoferret said:

On a side note, I'm really hoping that we get extra-large shields (scutum or figure-eight styled) and pectoral armor.  

I believe the figure-eight style shield is meant to be covered by the Large Hide shield, as lemniscate (a term for the figure-eight/infinity shape) is one of the designs described.

2 hours ago, Darius West said:

You say it isn't part of the present canon, but look at the character Egajia Chewer of Flesh.  The implication of this character being that morokanth don't eat meat, and she is an oddity who does so for religious reasons.

Or it's one of those things that's common enough, but still gets commented on as if it's special.

I've taken to thinking of those things as "Yelmalian Theocracies," due to that reoccurring description.

4 hours ago, Nick Underwood said:

Helering aren't blue-skinned anymore? 

Shame. I loved the Red Cow stuff. 

Most people aren't, even in the Red Cow, the helering related bloodline simply had a bluish tint.

It's likely blue skin would mark you out as someone powerful and holy, or that you're very closely descended from a water or storm god. It was usually only ring members in the Red Cow who had slate-blue skin, after all.

IMG I'm going with a mix, as I feel both are fun options that provide colour.
 

1 hour ago, Eff said:

This certainly implies something about Sun Horse/Little Sun cults, though I suspect femme Yelmalio is going well into Your Glorantha Has Varied.

Well, there's the Praxian spirit of Sun Daughter, last I'd seen. Associated with the Lightfore, may have a spirit cult.

49 minutes ago, HeartQuintessence said:

A little necromancy never hurt anyone now did it?

But bringing this back did make me think, that RQ/Glorantha's someway dated/gender essentialism (at times) especially in older materials that kinda gets reinforced through cults is annoying.

I.e. Vingans are Warrior Women, not Ernaldan, if you want to do that, then go join Babester Gor. There should be more flavors and nuance. Though I suppose some of that is to allow the players to decide and build things.

But new players to Glorantha would struggle to make choice or sense of it and I've found, Glorantha to be a little stuck sometimes- for its female players (and it characters).

My admitedly Sterotypical  Ernaldan Priestess while undergoing initiation, was basically a 'sassy ' Ernalda, and it hit me, why are Glorantha women portrayed in cerntain ways.

We've discussed Runes, but what happens when Runes on a woman, are not typical. an Orlanthi might have a Moon Rune, and as  while women in Glorantha don't nessacerily menstruate (monthly, apparently depending on who you ask)- it does bring up the question: If you're a woman with non-standard runes how does this effect your life?

(Note: This post will purely be how I handle things in my Glorantha, in the hopes it's useful/interesting. If anything is offensive within, let me know so I can learn where and how I've messed up and correct my thinking.)

In Orlanthi society, Sex =/= Gender =/= Runes, although there are some connections that people will make between them, and misapprehensions because of that.

For example: many stereotypes associated with genders are the result of runes. A high affinity for the Air Rune makes you more passionate, violent, and unpredictable, and since most Orlanthi men have a high Air Rune, confusion has happened as to what's the cause and what's the effect.

Women can have high Air Runes too, and will be as passionate, unpredictable, and prone to violence as anyone else. Those with a high affinity for Darkness will have a tendency to be cruel and secretive, and will easily get a reputation as such, those with a high affinity for the Moon Rune would have a drive towards seeking spiritual liberation (I would also note that menstruation is almost certainly tied to a different celestial body than the Moon.)

Likewise, we know the Orlanthi record four sexes (male bodied, female bodied, neuter bodied, and intersex bodied) and at least six genders (female, male, nandan, vingan, helering, and none).

Following on from this, as sex and gender is seen as separated, I would say that the idea of vingan gendered individuals as being transmen is not (at least IMG) the case, and that transgendered individuals are still accepted, and while sometimes confused by outsiders, recognised as having a different role.

Or in other words, there are men born in the bodies of women, vingans born in the bodies of women, and vingans born in the bodies of men.

And this is separate to cult membership. Someone vingan gendered does not have to be a member of Vinga's cult. Vinga is open to a wide variety of members, and although there is undeniably a certain level of expectation for vingan individuals to join Vinga's cult that's simply through tradition.

Both Vinga's and Babeester's cults are open to vingans, women regardless of their bodies, and include some helerings and agender individuals as well. It's just that without knowing everyone who's a member, people make assumptions and judgements.

Such as the assumption that Babeester Gori cannot love, have children or have sex. Some God Learner scribe noted that down after interviewing (some might say interrogating) some cult members who were agender or simply asexual and gave their reasoning. And simply because it fit their ideas, the scribe noted it as a fact for all.

13 minutes ago, Darius West said:

Good advice unless you meet the real Arkat.

Didn't stop the real Arkat when he met the real Arkat.

3 hours ago, MOB said:

Andrew Logan Montgomery on "Glorantha, Meaning, and Mythology":

 

[snip]

Of course, given how many superheroes have turned out to be other ones under different masks (Marvel's Thor has also been Siegfried for example), viewing them as being switchable has nothing to do with them as divine forces or advanced aliens.

A mask is a mask, regardless of who's or what's behind it.

Of course, to make matters worse, in some of the conventions, Greg mentioned the Lunar belief that Orlanth worship was misapplied worship of Shargash!

(At least according to panel transcripts in conbooks.)

Dayzatar's cult practice self mummification, and in many respects Dayzatar himself is a mummified god, remaining undecayed through his purity.

Much of his cult's magic consists of ascetic practices and rituals that refute some part of impure living, such as "Consume only Sunlight," or "See only Truth," which eventually leave the Dayzatari Priest unable to move, talk, blink, or do anything other than stare at the sun in a state of living death, their bodies dried and withered, mouthing prayers until their spirits are called away to join Dayzatar himself.

This practice helped inspire the Retirement Towers used by some Sun Dome Temples.

8 hours ago, Qizilbashwoman said:

uh, so where do unicorns come from? because, like, griffons don't have horns.

Unicorn was one of the sons of Storm Bull who followed his family into Prax, fighting against Chaos, and romancing the daughters of Eiritha. 

Unicorn was the most like his father, for Unicorn was a lover and a fighter, who hated Chaos with a passion that his brothers lacked. 

But that passion prevented him from finding a partner. He found no one who shared his pure hatred, and so although he had many lovers, he was never joined with the marriage bond to any of them. 

And so the Unicorn is a half-beast, only males like their father, who romance Eiritha's other beasts to find love for a while, before returning to their lonely vigil. 

At least that's how Unicorn tells it. 

His brothers instead tell of their little, lazy brother, who always comes around to mooch off their families, drinking their koumiss, and eating their food. He's a great storyteller and romanticist, and so he's always got a bevy of young bulls and cows who want to go with him, to their parent's displeasure. 

After the contest, Unicorn and his sons were left alone, without protectors. He claimed he needed none, but his brother Waha knew better. 

He went among the tribes, seeking volunteers to guard a beast that produced nothing, and took everything. 

Among the tribes, there were those unsatisfied with Waha's plan for their life. They agreed to leave their homes and protect the Unicorns, in exchange for being able to choose their way of life. 

Waha agreed, knowing there was no way that Unicorn could be protected by people following his way, and introduced them to Unicorn as those who would follow his lonely battle against Chaos, while teaching them how to best trick Unicorn into following their instructions. 

And so the Unicorn Women found a way to live their lives.

And the Unicorns found protectors, while still believing they were perfect. 

And Waha found a way to deal with those who would not be happy with his plan, and appear generous. 

And everyone was happy. 

  -- A myth told by the Bison tribe. 

2 hours ago, Joerg said:

According to Plentonius, Shargash has never been anything but red - it's already in the name, "shar", which also is the color of the southern direction in the gradual darkening of the four Guardians of the Cardinals (white - yellow - red - black).

That's a very convenient argument, but doesn't really explain the green city, or Alkor the Green.

While this may fit more into the Heretical Glorantha thread, Dara Happa Stirs for Mongoose RuneQuest had an interestingly different origin myth for Shargash, where he was originally named Sentin, and was an eater of the garbage of the sky. 

It's possible Sentin the Green became Shargash the Red as disruption came to the skies. 

13 hours ago, Eff said:

So, let's take a different tack. We all know that there are seven colors in the rainbow. Now add black (or shading), white (or tinting) and gray (or neutral).

Of course, I'm pretty convinced Dara Happa may divide the colour Red into two: a bright shining Red "Ruf" and a dull bloody Red "Shar". 

(Which isn't unheard of. Orange and Brown are essentially just light and dark versions of each other.)