stadi

I wouldn't be against a 8th edition, but I don't really care what it's called. The most important change for me would be the new layout. I find it great and find the old one ugly, I don't like to look at those. I also don't like the way the two core books are set up. I might be in the minority, but I also dislike the 20s, I cannot relate to it. So what I would like is a Core book that is not 20s focused. Either setting-less, or all the settings included at the same amount. But anyway, an update to the new layout alone would make me buy them.

32 minutes ago, alter said:

 

Yes @stadi, but with more globe trotting than Cold Fire Within and with good bunch of  helpfull NPCs, with lots of maps. Yes, Yes! I can imagine something like that. 

Exactly, A Cold Fire Within is the sweet spot length-wise for me, but it's too USA centric in the beginning and then gets too weird for my tastes. The Two Headed Serpent on the other hand is too long and too complex (again for my tastes) but I like the pulpiness and the globe-trotting.

1 hour ago, alter said:

In Poland there is a book with ten one on one scenarios called "Face to face". It came out last december an  it contain above mentioned three scenarios and seven more. Maybe Chaosium is going with something similar in English language? Here is the cover.

I'd love to see that translated and / or similar original ones released.

1 hour ago, alter said:

What I would like to see is some kind of mini campaign for one on one style of game. It would be so cool. Something between Alone Against the Dark and Mask of Nyarlathotep, maybe in Pulp Style? 

That would be a dream come true. You don't know how long I've been waiting for something like that. It doesn't even have to be mini one 🙂 Something in the length of A Cold Fire Within would be perfect.

Same question here, will this be released in print? By the way, any chance the third scenario (mentioned above) will get released?

I was (am always) thinking about the same topic lately. Then I've seen Seth Skorkowsky's video. He has good points but it's not exactly how I would do it. I'm thinking about making the hero stronger and more versatile and the enemies less powerful. Unfortunately even Pulp Cthulhu doesn't go far enough for what I need. If you think about it, a lot of novels or movies have a single hero. They are in danger from time to time, sometimes they have to rethink their strategy, sometimes they might have to involve some help, but there is no doubt that they'll succeed in the end. That is what I would like to emulate. Pulp Cthulhu is probably a good start, but with a lot more skill points (they should be competent fighters, but also competent investigators and negotiators), give them more health points, less danger from enemies (make most of them weaker minions), etc.

I know that this is not "standard" CoC, not even "standard" Pulp Cthulhu, but this is how I imagine a fun one on one.

Same here. Not really interested in post-apocalyptic USA ,nor airships, nor steampunk, but that cover... And a nun with a gun. I would really like to play this game (with this cover) in the 80s or so. Will probably get it anyway, I might get to like it in the end.

8 minutes ago, klecser said:

I know that 9 point is the standard. Heck, I published my scenario at 9 point, largely because I didn't want people to accuse me of "inflating page count." So, hypocritical of me? Maybe! I wasn't reacting to 9 point specifically, so much as the assertion that going from 11 to 9 "doesn't affect readability." Dude, I'm telling you that it does. And I recognize that that is your standard. But, it is a general problem for the publishing industry, if they truly want to be inclusive. And I don't expect Chaosium to be the one and only ones to solve this issue, or for you to change the choices that you made when you set the template for 7th edition. I'm just letting you know that I love that you guys have sensitivity readers for your books and that you are trying really hard to be inclusive. But I'm also telling you that there are aspects of inclusivity that you haven't considered. If you just said "ok, I get what you're saying" we'd be cool.  

There is much more to readability than just font size. I think the new CoC layout (font, background, colors, line spacing etc) is quite comfortable to read, at least for me, who only has myopia. I could imagine that reading them with reading glasses shouldn't be much of an issue. Or is it? There are much worse ones out there (like the horrible white on black that Modipious did with Star Trek Adventures).

Will this reprint / 2nd printing include Pulp info like all the newer releases? Or will that only be included with the potential "real new release"?

The link doesn't seem to be working for me.

I really like that you have several options regarding the mythos background, and that you can play it without direct mythos involvement. I don't know how much that actually changes the story and what's happening, I just read the introduction part, but is still a great idea.

Sounds great. He mentioned a Keeper and a Player book for Dark Frontier. Later also a campaign. Unfortunately it seems to be far away (at least the campaign if I understood it correctly what he meant). I'm really excited.

Great news, can you tell us more? I don't have time to listen to the podcast. Or can you tell at which part he talks about it?

5 minutes ago, Ursus Maior said:

Absolutely this. While CoC might evolve in the future - destination unknown - we do have a version appealing to different player wishes, it's Pulp Cthulhu. So, with two systems under the current edition, any 8th edition would need to revise both rule systems. That makes it a) somewhat more daunting as a case (capital needed) and b) somewhat less appealing, sine you need to win over two types of fans.

Plus, any future edition needs to come up with ideas for baseline Cthulhu and Pulp. And I'm not seeing anything on the horizon there. This isn't D&D or your cash cow miniature game that redefines itself completely new every five years. No, CoC hasn't changed much since its inception, it always remained a BRP system and there is only so much deviation possible; similar to GURPS or Rolemaster etc.

Yes, a new edition is probably too soon but as I mentioned above I could live with a new printing.

Regarding "normal CoC" and Pulp, for me those are the same. The differences are minimal, you can sum them up in a paragraph or two. Then you have the talents, but those are also a couple of pages max. Pulp is on one hand a setting, but we have a lot of those and then it's a rule variant (couple of paragraphs + talents). The rule variants you can use for whichever setting you want to and however you want to. Most (or all?) new releases have the Pulp options included, independent of the setting. I really like this, I hope they won't change this.

This is a really great idea! Can't wait for the updates.

8 hours ago, midwinter said:

I wish that Into the Darkness Youtube-channel and the Skype of Cthulhu podcasts had 700k views. They deserve it. Show them some love too, Chaosium.

I had a quick look at Into the Darkness. You can't compare the two, one is an AAA quality show with (voice)actors, props and people sitting at an actual table, the other is a bunch of dude-heads with headsets. Don't get me wrong, they and the story might be great, but the two are on a completely different level.

And then the other thing. They are again all white males. Even I as a white male am not really interested in other (only) white males gaming. If someone does something like this, they should at least get some girls to play along.

17 hours ago, lordabdul said:

One thing to note is that it's called "The Investigator Handbook", and not "The Player's Handbook".

In CoC "standard" Investigator = Player. So you could just as well call it "The Player's Handbook".

I wouldn't be against an 8th edition. Or a 7.5. This is what I'd like to see in one:

• Just one Core book instead of two
• Updated to the new (and really nice) layout
• Remove the 20s as the main setting. Mention all the important settings in the same length, or do not go into setting details and make a 20s book (as we have Pulp and Western) I know it's really subjective but I prefer the 30s, the 80s and the modern (2000-2020) to the 20s. 
• Regardless of the previous point, include all the mechanical information for all settings (skills, weapons, etc)

11 hours ago, klecser said:

You realize that most new Call of Cthulhu players are coming from DND, right? The future success of Call of Cthulhu is not going to be based off of what veterans do and do not purchase. It's going to be based off the strength of recruiting new players. The art makes complete sense, from a marketing standpoint, targeting the likely audience. "But I'M not that audience!" Well, then I guess you aren't that audience. That doesn't make the decision inappropriate.

It's not about who you target. It's that there is a mismatch between marketing and the actual content. I really like this art. I also like the A Cold Fire Within art. But that is a Pulp Cthulhu product, and this is (probably) not.

People might buy this expecting something completely different. Something lighter, pulpy or scooby-dooy. New players (coming from D&D) are more in danger here as they don't know what to look for, but we do. Maybe these are lighter pulpy adventures, who knows. Then there is no problem. What is really important that the art should be in line with the content.

I like the cover, but it's not horror. It's a pulp cover. If the adventures are Pulp Cthulhu adventures then there is no problem. If they are "standard 1920" adventures, than they do not really fit. I hope they have at least Pulp options / suggestions like some of the later Chaosium products.

I prefer 21st century to 20s. 30s / Pulp is a bit more interesting because it reminds me of Indiana Jones and is really fun to play. I cannot relate to the 20s, I have absolutely no connection to that time period. The 80s are interesting as well because of Stranger Things, and the lack of the Internet and mobile phones might make investigations more interesting.

There are some great 21st century modules around (Petersen's Abominations for example) although there is no setting book that I know of. Not that you really need it, but it wouldn't hurt of course. Delta Green seems too military / police centric for me, and I am not really interested in the sanity issues that are supposed to be a big part of the game between sessions (I haven't played it yet).

Is this a promotion for an/the upcoming Cthulhu by Gaslight release?

Without having bought the the scenario I can say that I am generally interested in one on one scenarios. Not just CoC, but any system.

I like the completely different art style. I like that you go in different directions. Will the interior art also be like this?

Chris Spivey's BRP Sci-Fi game might be similar and as it is BRP I guess you can combine it with CoC if you want to. I hope we'll hear more about it soon.

https://www.chaosium.com/blogchris-spivey-to-develop-scifi-rpg-game-setting-for-chaosium/

14 hours ago, EricW said:

Not being funny but why not make it out of spray painted 3D printed or moulded plastic? If you need weight make it hollow and fill with concrete, like gym machine weights.

Solid metal sounds cool but it’s just a prop isn’t it? You’re not actually trying to perform a ritual which requires an aluminium disk are you? (yikes)

Exactly. Not that I need physical stuff other than books, but if I were into something like this, I would prefer a cheap plastic version.